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 genres of horror movies...?
leesamfish
Posted: May 23 2012, 08:40 PM


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Hey,
So I'm trying to figure out if there are different "genres" of horror movies, and I'm kind of hitting a dead end and don't know how to classify a bunch of films. I do this because I'm bored.


So far I have figured out:
Silent horror films
Black and white horror (I guess this also includes B movies... since they tried to create a movie like the Universal Monster pics...?)
Black and white horror with heavy sci fi elements (stuff like Them! and Invasion of the Body Snatchers, would you classify them with films like White Zombie or Curse of the Demon/Night of the Demon? Because the atmosphere and way the story is handled is very similar, but they're often called sci fi)
more "modern"/color B movies from the '60's and '70's (from Jaws to... ?)
Exploitation films (but I feel like stuff like Cannibal Holocaust are distinctly different from generic "models getting tortured" films like Bloody Pit of Terror)
Slasher films and sequels (what exactly makes them different from exploitation films?)
Psychological thrillers (I'm not sure if this includes films as far back as Whatever Happened to Baby Jane, or just stuff like The Shining, or...? Just one big gray area here)
Torture Porn (the difference I see between torture porn and exploitation is that in exploitation, the viewer is watching other people who may deserve it getting tortured, while in torture porn the goal is to have the viewer empathize with the ones being tortured/feel it themselves)



What are things like The Sixth Sense, the Others, and the more modern "classy" ghost/horror stories? Is Japanese horror its own movie genre? Are movies like Underworld considered horror, or action/horror...? Also, what are the ridiculous schlocky movies that don't even try or just try to parody themselves?


Anyways, this has been bugging me for a while. What do you guys think? (other than that I have way too much free time)


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Spivsy
Posted: May 23 2012, 09:00 PM


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This is just my personal opinion so don't take it as fact or anything, but I think because horror is one of the 'main event genres' it can be made into an amalgamation with the other 'main' genres. Like horror comedy, sci-fi, etc.
If you mean sub-genres that involve just the horror genre, there are as many as your imagination will permit. If you come up with something and say it's a genre, it is one. Splatstick wasn't a genre until the late 80s early 90s. I could say turkeygore was a genre, and if it's related to something I've come up with nobody can say it isn't one.


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Posted: May 23 2012, 09:02 PM


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First off Leesamfish, get back into the kitchen, and second off, when you get in there open up the oven and crawl inside.


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Ebe
Posted: May 23 2012, 09:04 PM


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You forgot "Surround Sound Horror Films."

"Technicolor Horror."

"IMAX Horror."

"Widescreen Horror."

"Horror HD."


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Pyro-Gibberish
Posted: May 23 2012, 09:08 PM


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There's cosmic horror, which emphasizes the small scale of humanity as a whole in this universe as compared to incomprehensibly powerful beings.
Also, backwoods horror, which isn't too common anymore. It's mostly set in rural areas with farmers or other types of 'rednecks' fighting off monsters (usually zombies).
Which brings us to zombie films. This should need no explanation.
Comedic horror, in which the horror is mixed with humour, and has a tendency to lampshade some frequent horror tropes.
Action horror, such as Resident Evil (also a zombie horror) and Evil Dead.
And finally, there's religious horror, which usually involves demonic possession of some sort.


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Spivsy
Posted: May 23 2012, 09:16 PM


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There's cosmic horror, which emphasizes the small scale of humanity as a whole in this universe as compared to incomprehensibly powerful beings.

I'm struggling to think of many examples of this, can I have a few?


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Pyro-Gibberish
Posted: May 23 2012, 09:34 PM


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Pretty much anything by HP Lovecraft. In most of them, humans are portrayed as feeble compared to the mind-breakingly powerful beings such as Cthulhu and Yog-Sothoth. It often crosses over with psychological horror.
Other examples... The Slender Man Mythos counts somewhat, as do the Chzo Mythos, the Arkham Horror board game, and even most of the 'Unknown' class from Mortasheen.


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Posted: May 23 2012, 09:39 PM


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QUOTE (Spivsy @ May 23 2012, 01:16 PM)
I'm struggling to think of many examples of this, can I have a few?

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leesamfish
Posted: May 23 2012, 09:45 PM


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Ebe, how could you forget "in dazzling 3D" horror films. For shame.



But anyways, I never really thought about "religious horror", pyro. Stuff like Exorcist, Omen, ... but would that also include "satanist" or occultist horror films? Because very often that stuff is just "LOL GENERIC POINTY DEMON".

Would The Wicker Man be included in this "religious horror"? since a major part of the story is about how this outside Christian man is repulsed by these ancient pagan rituals. Or is it more of a psychological "look how evil normal non-supernatural people can be" type of horror, since this seemingly nice town does human sacrifices?

And Rasec, I understand the effect that an enormous (yet adorable) insect has on proving that humans are inconsequential, but can you make the image smaller?


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Pyro-Gibberish
Posted: May 23 2012, 09:52 PM


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Excorcist and Omen are exactly what I mean when I say religious horror. Generic pointy devils may or may not count, depending on the context of the film. If it's like some sort of action/horror movie where the hero ventures down to hell and kicks Satan's ass, I wouldn't consider it a prime example of religious horror. It's all about the themes that surround the horror, if that makes any sense. It's like I know what it means, but I can't put it all into words.
Also, the Wicker Man would probably count as religious horror on some level, as well as psychological horror.


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Why must everything be classified into evershrinking subgenres?


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Posted: May 23 2012, 10:03 PM


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I agree with Admiral _Aorta , horror is just making something so you feel fear, it can be made by any means and be put inside every other genere.It's just the universal term.
Has anybody else thought of the idea of making a horror film and not advertising it as horror, this would make it real horror, you wouldn't know what will come until it hits, or even you could make it that it's a very diffifoult to notice horror, like in the background or something.
I think I'm maybe just saying nonsense, but it would be great.
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Posted: May 23 2012, 10:05 PM


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QUOTE (Pyro-Gibberish @ May 23 2012, 09:34 PM)
Pretty much anything by HP Lovecraft. In most of them, humans are portrayed as feeble compared to the mind-breakingly powerful beings such as Cthulhu and Yog-Sothoth. It often crosses over with psychological horror.
Other examples... The Slender Man Mythos counts somewhat, as do the Chzo Mythos, the Arkham Horror board game, and even most of the 'Unknown' class from Mortasheen.

None of these things are movies


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leesamfish
Posted: May 23 2012, 10:06 PM


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So that I can be like "I'm in the mood for ___ genre" rather than the generic "horror", which covers from Attack of the Killer Tomatoes to Saw. If I want a movie that is like another movie I've seen, it's much easier to try to find other movies in that subgenre than trudging through thousands and thousands of not-at-all similar movies of the same general genre. I'm talking about just randomly searching for movies online, though, since netflix and the like are all "psh all this shit is horror, except for the shit that's sci-fi, even though it's basically the same as some of the horror".


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leesamfish
Posted: May 23 2012, 10:12 PM


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QUOTE (Rugnor @ May 23 2012, 10:03 PM)
I agree with Admiral _Aorta , horror is just making something so you feel fear, it can be made by any means and be put inside every other genere.It's just the universal term.
Has anybody else thought of the idea of making a horror film and not advertising it as horror, this would make it real horror, you wouldn't know what will come until it hits, or even you could make it that it's a very diffifoult to notice horror, like in the background or something.
I think I'm maybe just saying nonsense, but it would be great.

either I'm going crazy, or we had a whole discussion about this......



Wait no, that was on cracked.

http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-6-greatest...er-get-to-play/
Number 5. The point they make is that it would be spoiled. Also, I feel like there may be some accountability involved with not telling people the complete content of the movie. Thus why the rating system exists. Also, the people who would appreciate it are not necessarily the people who would buy/watch it. If it advertises as a drama or whatever, I'm sure there are tons of people who will see it who DON'T like horror movies. And ultimately, that's just mean, since the fun of horror movies is to be in a controlled fear mode and to know that it's coming, and some pussies just can't handle horror films because they feel like they don't have control.


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