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|Bogleech > Games > 46 Okunen Monogatari: The Shinka Ron|
|Posted by: ScutigeraColeoptrata Nov 8 2011, 06:43 PM|
| Greetings Fellow Bog Leeches,
46 Okunen Monogatari: The Shinka Ron, or 4.6 Billion Year Story: The Theory of Evolution, was the 1990 NEC PC-9801 predecessor to the SNES classic E.V.O.: Search for Eden. Like E.V.O., the game spans the Devonian period all the way to the Cenozoic. Unlike E.V.O. however, 46 Okunen Monogatari is a traditional RPG; a text-based adventure with a top-down map screen and first-person turn based battles. You play as an evolving creature who gains evolution points by defeating other creatures and surviving certain natural disasters. These evolution points can be used to develop one of four skills; attack power, health, mind power, and adaptability (this last one allows a creature to access new environments without taking damage). Leveling up these attributes allows the player's creature to evolve into a new animal down certain evolutionary paths. To my knowledge, all of the creatures one can evolve into were real-world animals.
What is striking about this game is how eerie and morose it seems. Maybe it is just the primitive graphics of the NEC PC-9801, or maybe it is the more realistic style compared to E.V.O., but it really feels like a desperate struggle for survival:
Another interesting difference this game has with E.V.O. is that the story is much more elaborate (and E.V.O.'s story was also pretty sophisticated). Other animals have a great deal to say, and bizarre encounters such as the one between a dragon and a tortoise-legged brachiosaurus add a lot to the weirdness of the experience.
More surprising still, the game does not end when humans show up, but continues on down human history until human society reaches a technological futuristic age.
The final boss appears to be some kind of giant, alien goddess that bursts out of a moon.
I really wish there was a translated version of this game. Out-dated mechanics aside, I'm very curious to see what the developers of E.V.O. did with the concept on their first try.
|Posted by: Cosbydaf Nov 8 2011, 07:45 PM|
|Oh yeah I've heard about this! i watched the LP on youtube, very interesting to watch. i was very curious about the what the deal with villainess was, I can only guess she's like a dark counterpart to Gaia. A cooler enemy than Bolbox I must admit.|
|Posted by: ScutigeraColeoptrata Nov 8 2011, 07:54 PM|
|I think so too. It's also pretty neat hearing slightly different arrangements of all the E.V.O. music tracks.|
|Posted by: OuthouseInferno Nov 8 2011, 08:30 PM|
|Even if it is all (older) arranges of EVO music, this music just feels so very alien and eerie, much more than the SNES version could muster. That's probably more than half of the feel right there.|
|Posted by: Cosbydaf Nov 8 2011, 10:20 PM|
| I think my favorite "new" use of the music was how the music for the SNES game's final level became the theme of the evil goddess, It sounds really menacing with a faster pace.
It's also worth noting how where the SNES game ends at becoming a human, this game has you progress on through humanity and you end up in a world of high-tech elves. Very surprising.
|Posted by: Revereche Nov 8 2011, 10:27 PM|
|Damn, this looks fun. If I watch the LP all the way through I'll post translations|
|Posted by: xolta Nov 8 2011, 10:59 PM|
|Enix always made interesting games. Now if only Square-enix would make a new Mischief Makers game.|
|Posted by: ScutigeraColeoptrata Nov 8 2011, 11:11 PM|
| Cool, that sounds great Rev!
I agree that Enix is cool, but they actually only published E.V.O. E.V.O. and this game were both developed by Almanic Corporation, later Givro Corp. They did some other interesting stuff, such as Wonder Project J2:
|Posted by: ScutigeraColeoptrata Nov 9 2011, 05:09 PM|
| Slime mutated by an alien rock during the Permian period!
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I love this game.
|Posted by: Cosbydaf Nov 9 2011, 09:03 PM|
|DAMMMNNNN I wish this game was translated.|
|Posted by: Revereche Nov 13 2011, 03:52 PM|
"A spring/fountain can be seen, with an unknown, strangely shaped black rock in it.
Around the perimeter/at the edge of the fountain,"
|Posted by: ScutigeraColeoptrata Nov 13 2011, 05:12 PM|
| Cool, and a much better translation than what Google Translate gives:
"Strange, and I see a busy spring odd-shaped black rocks.
Around the fountain,"
|Posted by: Revereche Nov 18 2011, 09:01 PM|
| I take my own sweet time getting around to things, I know.
Translation of this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jyee2aZhcjc
46 Okunen Monogatari: The Shinka Ron [The 4.6 Billion-Year Story －The Theory of Evolution－]
Game Sample -- PC-98
00:01 - Chapter One: The Age of Playing in the Sea ~ Setting Off into Evolution ~
(HUD says "Thelodont [progress bar] Evolution Factor 4)
00:16 - Thelodont A: "Oh?!"
Thelodont B: "Ahh, so you finally came to."
Thelodont C: "Thank goodness . . . seriously . . . "
Thelodont D: "We have to take you to the Elder!"
Thelodonts AB&C: "The Elder!"
Thelodont D: "Hey, wait for me!"
Thelodonts ABC&D: "The Elder!"
00:40 - Thelodont Lady: "My, you look like you're doing better! We all get along here, so you
should too, all right?"
00:47 - Jellyfish: "Drifting from water to sand sure is fun . . . "
00:52 - Thelodont Elder: "Oh! Finally awake, are you? Thank goodness! Thank goodness."
Thelodonts AB&C: "We were constantly by your side, nursing you back to health!"
Thelodont Elder: "Is that so? You really are kind children . . . "
Thelodonts AB&C: "We . . . "
Thelodont D: "I, I'm the one who found you in the first place!"
Thelodonts AB&C: "Don't interrupt!"
Thelodont Elder: "Now, now, don't fight."
Thelodonts ABC&D: "Sorry!"
Thelodont Elder: "Ah, children. It's quite a surprise, a thelodont from strange waters!
You say you remember drifting out of nowhere, lost, and everything else is a blank . . .
But they all pitched in and helped you . . .
Anyway! It's good you're well again!
From this day forward, these waters are yours!
Be kind to those around you, and do your best to get along with them.
Have you tried talking to everyone?
They're all good people . . ."
Thelodont: "Have you talked to everyone?"
Jellyfish: "Bloop, bloop, I feel great . . .
But out of the ocean, on the surface, the light seems painful. I don't think I could relax
Thelodont Lady: "Nice to meet you . . . "
Sea Scorpion: "Oh, so you're awake now? That's a relief.
Everyone pitched in and helped, you see . . . "
Sea Urchin: "Oh! You? You're the thelodont they said came from strange waters."
Thelodont Child: "Hey, you! Are you feeling all right?"
Clam Worm: "Oh! You? You're the guy all the young lady thelodonts have fallen in love with!"
Coral: "Lalala . . . under the blue seas ~ laa, laa . . . "
Old Lady Thelodont: "Oh my! My! You're already back to your old self, are you? My, you really
are! Thank heavens, mhm, mhm."
Old Man Thelodont: "Ahh! I wasn't sure whether I should believe the rumors. The Elder is
waiting just up above."
Extremely Curious Thelodont: "Looks like you're back to normal. I'm glad."
Thelodont: "Have you talked to everyone?" [repeats two more times]
(The player brings up a menu and selects "cancel")
Thelodont Elder: "Oough . . . it, it hurts, something must be mad at us!
Everyone is turning into strange creatures!
Why have we been cursed . . .
Ugh, oorgh . . . how could such a thing . . .
Ughhh . . . !
Th, that's it!
It's you! This is your fault! Ever since you came, everyone has been acting strangely!
You cursed thelodont bastard!
Young Lady Thelodont: "Stop, Elder!"
Thelodont Elder: "Nn, get out of my way!"
Young Lady Thelodont: "Please listen to me! It's the light! Everyone is acting strangely
because of that light!"
Thelodont Elder: "How, how do you know that?"
Young Lady Thelodont: "Luckily, the light didn't touch me. Do I look strange? Elder?"
Thelodont Elder: "M, mm. Really . . . now that I think about it, I noticed it too . . . "
Young Lady Thelodont: "Bad things are happening because of that light. Please don't be angry
with this thelodont! I beg you!"
Thelodont Elder: ". . . You're right. I was being childish. But . . . the ocean will never
be peaceful again . . . Leave . . . If you stay here, I might become angry again . . ."
Young Lady Thelodont: "Elder . . ."
Old Lady Thelodont: "Oh my! This is terrible, terrible! Ever since you started living here,
things have been going awry! Get out of here!"
Jellyfish: "I'm going numb! Blee!"
Young Lady Thelodont: "I wanted to say goodbye . . . even though we met under such awful circumstances . . . I . . . I hope we meet again someday . . .
I've come to care for you but . . . I feel some kind of power in you . . . incredibly strong . . .
I . . . have to go care for the Elder - that is, my grandfather . . .
The east sea is flooded with fish driven into a frenzy by the encroaching light, so please be careful . . .
Goodbye . . . take care of yourself . . . *sniffle* "
Game: Because of a misunderstanding and your inability to remember who you are, you were
banished from the thelodont sea.
After you left, because of a surge of mysterious, raging rapids, the thelodont sea was all at
once wiped out . . .
(Player selects "Direction of Evolution" from menu)
(Top property = intellect; right property = strength; bottom property = offense; left
property = stamina)
Game: Is this okay? Yes/No
04:12 - Game: A jellyfish attacks!! Your move!
(Player selects "fight")
(Typical fight statistics follow; I'll only translate them if someone really wants me to.)
06:04 - Game: You evolve into a Hemicyclaspis!
Total length 30cm
Mainly ate things like plankton.
Lived at the mouths of rivers, swam slowly along riverbeds.
Lived during: Silurian Period ~ Devonian Period.
07:20 - Game: You found a "Heart of Gaia"! 20 points to Evolution Factor.
07:52 - Game: You evolve into a Bothriolepis!
Total length 30cm
Ate things like plants and small animals.
Spent its life swimming, nearly crawling, along the bottoms of lakes and rivers.
Lived during: Silurian Period ~ Devonian Period.
08:16 - Hemicyclaspis: "Hehe! Welcome."
08:51 - Game: You evolve into a Lunaspis!
Total length 20~25cm
Ate things like shellfish and small animals.
Lived during: Devonian Period.
(Player selects "Record of Evolution" from menu)
Game: Cannot access Record of Evolution! It seems you're cursed by something.
Thelodonts ABC&D: "Aaaahh!
Ahh! Don't come any closer!
We don't want to fight. *tremble*
Huh? You're not attacking us? Eh? You say you're our friend . . . ?
Phew . . . boy, that's a relief . . ."
Thelodont: "In this cave is a way out of the east sea.
But, I can't tell you!"
Thelodont D: "Ahem! I am a brave thelodont. I am a unique thelodont on an adventure in the
great eastern sea!
Would you like to hear something?
Good! I'll tell you.
In the depths of the east sea, there's said to be a mysterious power that watches over our
fates. However . . .
Along the way is some heavy water. The farther you dive, the heavier it gets!
Because of that water, countless numbers of our allies were crushed . . . aahh . . . it's
terrible . . .
Someone who was very strong, with a lot of stamina might be all right."
Oh no, I think I can see the light . . . "
10:12 - Game: You found a "Heart of Gaia"! 30 points to Evolution Factor.
10:47 - Game: Suddenly, an enormous cave opened before your eyes.
In the distance you could see an exit. You began to swim toward it. However, the cave was so
large that it took you three days.
12:24 - Game: The intense water pressure is pushing in on you!!
12:35 - Cladoselache Henchman: "Stop right there! Don'tcha come any closer!"
Cladoselache Boss: "Oh, who is it?"
Cladoselache Henchman: "Ehh . . . some lame fish . . . "
Cladoselache Boss: "Hoho, they must have some guts to come to a place as dangerous as this.
Come on in!"
Clad. Henchman: "Huh?!"
Clad. Henchman: "Listen to what the boss has to say and be grateful!"
Game: You found a "Heart of Gaia"! 30 points to Evolution Factor. [x2]
Game: You evolve into a Gemuendina!
Total length 20~25cm
Ate things like small animals.
Primarily lived at the bottoms of oceans, and there preyed on small animals.
Lived during: Devonian Period.
(Player selects "Lesser Evolutions" from menu.)
Game: You evolve into a Coccosteus!
Total length 10-80cm
Ate things like small animals.
Agile, strong, and jawed; preyed on other fish.
Lived during: Devonian Period.
Clad. Henchman: "Listen to what the boss has to say and be grateful!" [x3]
Clad. Boss: "If you came all the way here, you must have done a lot of fighting . . .
We got used to that kinda thing, too . . .
But we realized something.
Gnashing and fighting, beating down all these tough guys, bowing down to tough guys.
It's pointless, don'tcha think? Huh? You're young, aren'tcha?
Us, we stopped living like that. Here, we live a quiet life!
So . . . you came all the way down here. One place is as good as the next, it's been said . .
|Posted by: Cosbydaf Nov 19 2011, 12:18 AM|
|Thanks for the translation!|
|Posted by: xolta Nov 19 2011, 12:37 AM|
|this is not what i expcted.|
|Posted by: ScutigeraColeoptrata Nov 23 2011, 04:34 AM|
| Very cool Rev, thanks!
I knew the animals in this game were chatty, but wow.
|Posted by: Naori Dec 9 2011, 10:04 PM|
| Thank you for translating that video Revereche.
I'm wondering if you could possibly translate or give a summary of the ending of this game, seen here:
If you don't have time that's understandable, thank you anyway for translating a part of the game.
|Posted by: Revereche Dec 9 2011, 10:14 PM|
|Sure thing! I'm working on Christmas gifts this month, so I'll be a little slow, but I'll be sure to get it done.|
|Posted by: Naori Dec 11 2011, 05:04 PM|
|Oh thank you. Take all the time you need. I hope you have a great Christmas.|
|Posted by: Revereche Dec 11 2011, 07:08 PM|
|You too! <3|
|Posted by: Revereche Dec 31 2011, 06:37 AM|
|I came here to translate the video and . . . it's gone now. Welp :||
|Posted by: ScutigeraColeoptrata Jul 24 2012, 10:44 PM|
|Yeah, it stinks that the videos were taken down. I had someone email me recently asking for more information on the game, which is hard to come by. I hope to add some content to this thread in my spare time soon.|
|Posted by: Ebe Jul 25 2012, 12:45 AM|
| Hey guys, hey, (almost) complete playthrough hey.
(Part 4 is missing?)
|Posted by: Revereche Jul 25 2012, 01:53 AM|
| The whole thing is available here: http://www.nicovideo.jp/mylist/8024496
You'll have to either get a Nico account and log in, or paste the URLs here: http://mmcafe.com/nico.html
|Posted by: Wright of Void Jul 27 2012, 10:04 AM|
|Huh. I played EVO a while back, but was rather disappointed by it, mainly because of the level grinding and barebones plot. (Also the railroading. Screw mammals, I wanna be a bird! Let me keep evolving!) Weird to know that its predecessor was this awesome. Why did they make such a poor port to the SNES?
Anyway, I was wondering...would it be possible to remake this game in something like Game Maker/RPG Maker? It doesn't seem terribly complex -- probably the most complex thing is the evolution gimmick. If it were possible for the graphics to be extracted from the game file, I think it could be a real possibility. I know that similar projects have been done before.
|Posted by: Revereche Jul 29 2012, 07:43 PM|
|I can't imagine it would be too much trouble, no. Just monotonous.|
|Posted by: Wright of Void Jul 30 2012, 07:53 PM|
|Hm. Do you think it would be easier or harder to do a straight fan translation? (Though I suppose there could still the problem of accessibility -- I imagine it would be easier to download an RPG Maker executable than emulate an ancient Japanese computer. I could be wrong, though.)|
|Posted by: Ebe Jul 30 2012, 08:45 PM|
|Who said anything about emulation? You'd make a patch.|
|Posted by: Revereche Jul 31 2012, 12:32 AM|
|A patch for the translation, yes, but a game that old needs an emulator or a complete conversion to run on a modern computer, period. Or do you know something I don't?|
|Posted by: ScutigeraColeoptrata Jul 31 2012, 03:38 AM|
|Oh 46 Okunen Monogatari, why must you torture us with your obscurity?!|
|Posted by: Ebe Jul 31 2012, 05:09 AM|
It would definitely need an emulator, but those are available.
|Posted by: hay Oct 31 2013, 05:34 AM|
| I don't know if anyone cares about this anymore, but I'm playing the game right now through this emulator.
I also found the game here.
|Posted by: joffe Oct 31 2013, 09:39 PM|
| Hot damn, I missed all this the first time around, but I loved EVO (despite its flaws, inaccuracy and nihilism) and it is super fascinating to see how the snes game deviated from the original story.
EVO was a big influence on my fondness for making the kind of games I do.
|Posted by: Cosbydaf Jan 13 2014, 12:56 PM|
| I found a playthrough!
|Posted by: Fishbo!! Jan 24 2014, 01:54 AM|
| Holy crap, you guys! I'm ashamed of myself that I never knew this game existed!
I'm a gigantic fan of E.V.O., and this game looks friggin' wonderful.
E.V.O. is one of my favorite games ever, and to play this would be a dream for me. I'll hafta be content with watching the playthrough for now, though.
The first part of the game, with all the critters from the Cambrian explosion, has always been my favorite. When chapter 3 rolls around and you have to be a reptile, I always had just a smidge less fun. Maybe 'cause that's also the most grinding-heavy bit and the part with the worst music.
Anyway, thank you peeps for bringing this to my attention.
It made my night!
|Posted by: Popolon Aug 25 2015, 09:49 PM|
| Hello everyone ! Sorry to bring back this topic from the grave, but I'm a French guy who loved RPG, old and new, and I NEED to know what happened at the end of this game, after the defeat of the final boss.
If someone could help me...
|Posted by: hollowaytape Nov 14 2016, 07:40 PM|
| Hey all! I read this thread about a year ago, and it was pretty formative in getting me interested in this game. I started an English translation romhack with some other interested people on Romhacking.net, and we're pretty close to finishing.
Anyway, I just wanted to thank you all for showing me this neat little game!
|Posted by: Bobert Nov 16 2016, 09:43 AM|
|That's pretty groovy Hollow!|