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Teepsta - March 27, 2010 10:03 PM (GMT)
Though his overall design has remained consistant since 1954, there have been numerous variations on Godzilla's design over the years, with almost every film having its own suit design.

Some of my favourites, in no particular order:

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The suit used in the original "Godzilla: King of the Monsters". What can be said? It defined Godzilla's look. An often overlooked feature of this suit are its webbed hands and feet. They're a neat touch and help emphasise the fact that Godzilla is a sea monster.

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This suit was used in King Kong vs Godzilla. I like its bulk and its reptilian features. It's a very solid design.

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IMO Mothra vs. Godzilla is an overrated pile of drek and one of the *worst* Godzilla movies, but I will concede that the Godzilla design was very nice.

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This design was used in Destroy All Monsters, Godzilla's Revenge, Godzilla vs. The Smog Monster and Godzilla vs. Gigan. This suit is a classic. It has nice features and porportions.

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The design from Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla gets a lot of flack but I've always liked it. He's simultaneously badass and adorable. I like how expressive this suit is.

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I love the G2K design. It's everything I like about the KKvsG design, but meaner and pointier. I like its huge lavender dorsal fins its green skin. Very wild and fearsome looking.

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The Final Wars Godzilla is a superb design. It takes the G2K look, and gives it the classic colour scheme, the Heisei Godzilla's fins and the late-Showa Godzilla's athletic build. A nice tribute to Godzilla's history and perfect for his 50th anniversary film.

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This is a model of a prototype design for the G54 costume. They never used it in the film because it was too stiff and heavy, though it shows up in some promotional stuff. With its short neck and big head it looks very Tyrannosauroid. I'd like to see this design resurrected for a movie someday.

Jesus lizard - March 27, 2010 10:15 PM (GMT)
The suit from Godzilla, Mothra and King Ghidorah: Giant Monsters All-Out Attack always struck me as the most fearsome incarnation.
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Rather than being spawned from radiation like all the other Godzillas, this one was spawned from the carnage and hate of the lost souls of those killed in the hiroshima bombing.
It's blank and murderous glare and constant snarl are damn fucking scary.
It also suffers what I think is the most violent "death" in any other kaiju flick. (tries to use it's atom breath but rends itself to shreds through the force of the attack. We see it's heart still beating on the ocean floor, suggesting that it will reform and return to attack later.)

Godzilla VS Space Godzilla/ Godzilla VS. Batra or Mothra again, not really sure) had a great design pinned down.
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Overall satisfying in multiple ways.
A lot of muscle mass in the legs, which would make sense because G is supposed to be so big.
I like his tail.
He has two rows of huge teeth in his maw, which is extremely imposing during his roar scenes.

Baby Godzilla - THAT'S RIGHT! I refuse to call him "Minilla" or whatever the fuck they renamed him - got an awesome reskin in Space Godzilla.
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Seems odd that they ditched it for the ugly little bastard that is still the current baby godzilla.
LOOK AT HIS EYES!
HES SO CUUUUUUUTE!!!!

xolta - March 27, 2010 10:18 PM (GMT)
I have been a fan of the original look a fell of godzilla. My favorite has always been 60-70's godzilla.

Teepsta - March 27, 2010 10:39 PM (GMT)
I think GMK Godzilla's intimidation factor is completely destroyed by the fact that he looks like King Koopa from the Super Mario Bros cartoon.

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Mecha-GREGOLE - March 27, 2010 11:10 PM (GMT)
The Heisei and GMK suits have their merits, but Heisei's immobility kills it for me, as does GMK's total assrape of the character.

Much as I love the 2000 suit, I wish we'd see more Showa-inspired designs these days. Something with the classic alligator skin, blunt, bony, reasonably sized spines and webbed digits, with maybe the double row of teeth as an homage. The 60's suits just had something that the modern ones lacked. They looked more natural in their environment, like primordial dinosaurs. There was a sense that humans were living in Godzilla's world, as opposed to vice versa like nowadays. These days all the monsters are manmade beam-spammers. >>

Dreamer - March 27, 2010 11:21 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Teepsta @ Mar 27 2010, 10:39 PM)
I think GMK Godzilla's intimidation factor is completely destroyed by the fact that he looks like King Koopa from the Super Mario Bros cartoon.

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Kinda like how I can never take Frank Langella seriously in any other movie roles because I always picture whichever character he's playing as Skeletor

"It's not illegal if the president does it, which is why I am sending our troops to Castle Greyskull so I can gain it''s power and rule Eternia He-man! Nyahahahaha! "


Teepsta - April 1, 2010 10:01 PM (GMT)
Presenting what is probably the ugliest Godzilla suit ever.

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This design, used in Son of Godzilla, with its stubby face, googly eyes set way on top of the head, a really long, fat neck and tiny hands is just... awful. Apparantly they designed this suit so it would look "friendlier". X:

ScutigeraColeoptrata - April 1, 2010 10:14 PM (GMT)
Yeah, I wish they had kept the design from King Kong vs Godzilla and used that throughout the Showa era.

I am a fan of the Heisei Godzilla, as well as his foes. I'll be honest and say that I found the 90s films to be pretty dull at times, but I really liked the overall aesthetic.

The Godzilla 2000 design is my personal favourite; a good redesign for the character, while still keeping everything that was good about the older suits (and looking a lot like the suit from King Kong vs Godzilla). I do wish that the Millennium series had continuity between the films like the 90s ones did, but the series did give us some of the best films in the franchise.

When thinking about how to 'modernize' Godzilla now, I imagine designers would probably base his appearance on the highly popular Monster Hunter franchise:

http://monsterhunter.wikia.com/wiki/Monster_List

(which is also similar to the designs in Dragon War). This could work out okay, since the designs seem to borrow heavily from traditional Chinese and Japanese dragon designs while also having a nice realistic look to the bodies themselves. It would certainly work better than just making Godzilla into a big dinosaur like the Tristar film did (not really a bad monster design, but it didn't work for the character imo).

ScutigeraColeoptrata - April 4, 2010 07:05 PM (GMT)
So, ehrm, it looks like Legendary Pictures is going to make a Godzilla movie:

http://www.scifijapan.com/articles/2010/03...dzilla-returns/

I have the feeling that the people working on this film really do want to do the character justice, since Godzilla isn't exactly a hot property right now here in the west. I look forward to seeing this film in 2012.

Teepsta - April 4, 2010 10:00 PM (GMT)
I find this news simultaneously intriguing and foreboding.

I doubt it'll be a repeat of the GINO fiasco, and I'm interested in seeing a big budget Godzilla movie, but my fear is that it'll be too brooding and serious. The Heisei series and much of the Millennium series tried that angle and was a complete bore as a result.

But then, I seem to be in the minority since a large chunk of the kaiju fandom seems to completely lack a sense of humour.

Cosbydaf - April 5, 2010 12:15 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Teepsta @ Apr 4 2010, 10:00 PM)
I find this news simultaneously intriguing and foreboding.

I doubt it'll be a repeat of the GINO fiasco, and I'm interested in seeing a big budget Godzilla movie, but my fear is that it'll be too brooding and serious. The Heisei series and much of the Millennium series tried that angle and was a complete bore as a result.

But then, I seem to be in the minority since a large chunk of the kaiju fandom seems to completely lack a sense of humour.

I feel the opposite way about it. Although I can enjoy pretty much any Godzilla movie, my favorites are the Hesei series. The brooding atmosphere seemed appropriate for a story about a world being attacked by giant monsters, and those movies where a lot more engaging as a result because, in the right mindset, you could take them seriously.

Some of the Showa movies (Godzilla vs Gigan, Godzilla vs Megalon) are also enjoyable, but in a different way. It's like watching Power Rangers. It's still fun, but you can't take it seriously at all, and the outright goofiness of it kinda betrays the spirit of the original movie, which was very bleak and depressing.

Just because I enjoy a movie with a bit of substance to it doesn't mean I can't take a joke.


As for the remake, I'm not getting my hopes up.

bigbadlochness - April 5, 2010 12:51 AM (GMT)
I'm mixed in my thoughts. It will likely be okay, no better. I predict at least one other Toho monster's appearance.

However, I have a very bad feeling, not sure why. Possibly due to my highly-unlikely-to-be-fufilled-although-not-hopeful wish to bring Godzilla back to the spotlight myself. Ah well.

As for the tone of the Godzilla movies, my very favorite is one that was intentionally comedic much of the time: King Kong vs. Godzilla. However, I also like the parts of that movie that are supposed to be serious, and they feel serious. I think a Godzilla movie can easily work either way, although elements of both should be present in any case.

Regarding a couple of earlier posts: What's up with calling Mothra vs. Godzilla a pile of crap? Apart from the original, it's possibly the greatest G-film. It's a rare treat for the human characters to be as likeable and interesting as they are in the movie, and the special effects are slightly above average for the time it was made (another rare occurance).

Also, it's a pitfall of many Godzilla fans that they relish a certain formula (See Mothra vs. Godzilla, Destroy All Monsters, Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla, Tokyo SOS, etc....all variations on the same basic thread and popular in the community). This is why many people don't like GMK, and why I can never take them seriously. Series that fail to change and experiment and be different are playing a dangerous game; so why boo them for doing so? It was honestly the best G-film in quite a while, and one of the few that can objectively be considered good. Pure evil, possessed Godzilla was an interesting and welcome change.

In conclusion, the KK vs. G suit is my favorite, G 2K is also great, and I just generally love Godzilla.

Rasec Wizzlbang - April 5, 2010 12:57 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Jesus lizard @ Mar 27 2010, 10:15 PM)
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As much as I love this one, theres no reason for anything to have a tail that damn big.

Teepsta - April 7, 2010 02:19 AM (GMT)
I can accept a heroic or an antagonistic Godzilla; the character's sheer range and versatility is part of its appeal. Courtesy of Badass of the Week...

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"...Another sweet thing is that Godzilla is completely unpredictable, and as such represents the Ultimate Duality of Awesome:† When he leaves the warm beaches of Monster Island and emerges from the dark waters near the Japanese coastline you donít know if heís there to smash orphanages or save the universe from a rampaging giant space monster who shoots lasers out of his forehead and spits acid on hot Japanese babes.† Thatís just how he rolls.† One minute heís Earthís savior, the next minute heís grabbing handfuls of cheering humans and grinding them between his massive pointy teeth."


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What's up with calling Mothra vs. Godzilla a pile of crap?


For me it's a combination of hype backlash and it just being spectacularly boring. This review sums up a lot of my gripes with the film.

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It's a rare treat for the human characters to be as likeable and interesting as they are in the movie


I don't recall any likeable or interesting human characters in Mothra vs. Godzilla

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and the special effects are slightly above average for the time it was made (another rare occurance).


The fight between Godzilla and the Mothra imago was poorly shot and looked artificially sped up

The Godzilla suit's face wobbles all over the place like it's paralysed

The Mothra larvae look like giant turds and roll on obvious wheels

Giant boulders hit by Godzilla's breath "melt" by deflating like balloons

Nah. Typical Showa era Special Effects Failure as far as I'm concerned. I'm not really complaining per se since SEF is half the reason I watch these movies, but I see nothing exceptional about the effects in Mothra vs. Godzilla.

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Just because I enjoy a movie with a bit of substance to it doesn't mean I can't take a joke.


Now if only the Heisei films actually *had* any substance. :P I personally consider them every bit as ridiculous and corny as the Showa films- but the Showa films were self aware about it at least.

My main gripe with the Heisei series is that most of the fights consist of beamspamming, which is REALLY boring to watch. The final battle of Godzilla vs. Spacegodzilla comes to mind.

I liked Godzilla 1985 and Godzilla vs. Biollante. The international emergency angle was intriguing, I like it when Godzilla movies remember that a world outside of Japan exists. The thinly veiled Japanese nationalism and anti-American sentiment in Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah was amusing in its sheer audacity and I choked up when Godzilla died in Godzilla vs. Destoroyah, even if it was just a cynical publicity stunt in the end.

Overall though, I'm just not all that crazy about the Heisei series. To each their own. X:

ScutigeraColeoptrata - April 7, 2010 02:29 AM (GMT)
Yeah, I prefer an ambiguous take on Godzilla too. I thought his characterization in Godzilla 2000 worked pretty well.

I think Mothra vs Godzilla deserves credit for being the first to really establish the Showa Godzilla formula. It also had a human villain plot that I thought matched up with the giant monsters fairly well (the film was really more about Mothra, but oh well). To be honest though, it isn't one of my favourites.

I also agree with Teepsta about the beam-happy Heisei era. The final battle of Godzilla vs Space Godzilla is almost seizure enducing.

Teepsta - April 7, 2010 02:48 AM (GMT)
The reason that the battles in the Heisei series are as beam-happy as they are is because Kawakita Koichi (the special effects director of most of the Heisei films) thought that wrestling was too humanoid for giant monsters.

Apparantly grappling is more anthropomorphic than spitting a laser. :|

Cosbydaf - April 7, 2010 03:01 AM (GMT)

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Now if only the Heisei films actually *had* any substance. tongue.gif† I personally consider them every bit as ridiculous and corny as the Showa films- but the Showa films were self aware about it at least.


You really think movies like GvsBiollante and GvsDestoroyah are just as cheesy as GvsGigan and GvsMegalon? And I felt they did have substance, at least for kaiju movies.


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Overall though, I'm just not all that crazy about the Heisei series. To each their own. X:


Fair enough.

For the record, I do like the Showa movies. They're very easy to get into, and some of them, like Ghidorah(the movie by the same name where Ghidora makes it's first appearance) GvsMechagodzilla, and Destroy All Monsters are totally badass. I'm just not a fan of of the overt cheesiness of some movies in that series.

Also, I think I must be one of the only people who actually likes GvsSpaceGodzilla. Apart from the Styrofoam asteroids (Unforgivable) and the random male butt shot (Eww), I thought it was really fun. Yes, even the beam spamming finale.

Jesus lizard - April 7, 2010 03:32 AM (GMT)
I love Space Godzilla.
It was one o the only Godzilla tapes I had as a kid.

Teepsta - April 7, 2010 03:48 AM (GMT)
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You really think movies like GvsBiollante and GvsDestoroyah are just as cheesy as GvsGigan and GvsMegalon?


Absolutely. The inherant ridiculousness of the stories contrasted with their phony profundity is the source of much of the Heisei series' cheesiness. Perhaps not the same *kind* of cheesiness as Godzilla dancing in outer space, but ultimately just as silly.

One thing I find ironic is that the "friendler" Godzilla became in the Showa series, the more brutal and badass he became. With the exception of Anguirus the antagonistic Godzilla of the early Showa era was usually content to pound on an opponent a bit and then leave them for dead, and he was rarely injured to an appreciable degree. Contrast this to him losing an eye and having his hand skeletonised before tearing Hedorah to peices; or gushing rivers of blood before he tore off Mechagodzilla's head. X:

Mecha-GREGOLE - April 7, 2010 04:01 AM (GMT)
Disagreement or not, I'm genuinely pleasantly surprised to find that for once in my life, two groups of people with different tastes in rubber-suit wrestling aren't militantly insulting, patronizing or otherwise degrading one another as individuals.

Personally, I prefer the Showa era. I don't feel like the Heisei movies had the same kind of affection for their material that the Showa series did. Yeah, I see Godzilla, but I don't feel the same sense of awe from him that I did in the 60's films. He doesn't seem like a character, nor do I feel like he fits into the established world.
The 90's movies were less swashbuckling adventures in a world of monsters, and more JSDF trying countless convoluted schemes to destroy the same monster, and refusing to learn from any of their mistakes, all while trying to seem deep and meaningful. And I'm sure some people like that, but personally, I don't. I just can't take Godzilla seriously for two hours. I need some sort of acknowledgment that this genre is silly, and I need the filmmakers to enjoy that. You can tell a story with a meaningful message or idea behind it, like Gojira did, but while somber, Gojira still had that 50's camp that told you it wasn't THAT heavy.

Rasec Wizzlbang - April 7, 2010 04:06 AM (GMT)
I had a little box set of Godzilla tapes. Godzilla Vs. Gigan, Godzilla Vs. Mechagodzilla, Godzilla 1985, Son of Godzilla, Godzillas Revenge, and something else.

I loved it cause when you lined the boxes up right, it made godzillas face.

bigbadlochness - April 7, 2010 10:17 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Teepsta @ Apr 7 2010, 02:19 AM)
I can accept a heroic or an antagonistic Godzilla; the character's sheer range and versatility is part of its appeal. Courtesy of Badass of the Week...





For me it's a combination of hype backlash and it just being spectacularly boring. This review sums up a lot of my gripes with the film.



I don't recall any likeable or interesting human characters in Mothra vs. Godzilla



The fight between Godzilla and the Mothra imago was poorly shot and looked artificially sped up

The Godzilla suit's face wobbles all over the place like it's paralysed

The Mothra larvae look like giant turds and roll on obvious wheels

Giant boulders hit by Godzilla's breath "melt" by deflating like balloons

Nah. Typical Showa era Special Effects Failure as far as I'm concerned. I'm not really complaining per se since SEF is half the reason I watch these movies, but I see nothing exceptional about the effects in Mothra vs. Godzilla.



Now if only the Heisei films actually *had* any substance. :P I personally consider them every bit as ridiculous and corny as the Showa films- but the Showa films were self aware about it at least.

My main gripe with the Heisei series is that most of the fights consist of beamspamming, which is REALLY boring to watch. The final battle of Godzilla vs. Spacegodzilla comes to mind.

I liked Godzilla 1985 and Godzilla vs. Biollante. The international emergency angle was intriguing, I like it when Godzilla movies remember that a world outside of Japan exists. The thinly veiled Japanese nationalism and anti-American sentiment in Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah was amusing in its sheer audacity and I choked up when Godzilla died in Godzilla vs. Destoroyah, even if it was just a cynical publicity stunt in the end.

Overall though, I'm just not all that crazy about the Heisei series. To each their own. X:

I can't defend the Godzilla suit in that film, unfortunately. I always wince whenever the face wobbles or the unrealistically skinny legs get center stage, as it's a flaw on what I personally believe to be a tour de force of 1964's best effects work. Everything else, I really can't grasp. Have you ever seen a rock melted by a force as hot as Godzilla's atomic ray? If you have, please tell me where, cause damn, I want to go. If not, then how can you say it doesn't look like a balloon deflating?

As for the characters, the little "fairies" (though admittedly not QUITE human) are simultaneously mystical and very real. Their sweet, but firm demeanor paints a very illustrative picture of the mind behind those compound Mothra eyes. As for the newspaper reporters, I find there to be a story more complex than is obvious. Takarada's writer finds Junko obnoxious and chafes at her assignment to him, obviously feeling disrespected. However, he also respects her and is even possibly attracted to her, the positive sides of the relationship gradually eclipsing the negative ones as her abilities come to light over the course of the movie. The egg-eating fool provides some genuinely funny comic relief and attracts sympathy despite his minimal screen time. Kumayama is a despicably nasty, yet pitiable villain, and Sahara's behind-the-scenes man is the foul-as-the-devil counterpart that creates another interesting wrinkle. Now, don't get me wrong, I would wonder what the Academy was smoking if any of these performances won an Oscar, but they are AMAZING for a G-film and stand up remarkably well to a plethora of fare made before and since. I found myself more disdainful of the acting in Avatar than in Mothra vs. Godzilla.


The fact that our opinions are so staggeringly different and I'm totally non-understanding of your viewpoint means that I severely doubt I will be able to convince you that the film is good. I gave it the ol' college try, though. After this, I graciously bow out. (Although that review you posted seemed like it was written by a frat boy who got doped up, watched a few G-flicks, loved 'em high, and then watched Mothra vs. Godzilla sobered up. I swear, his professed understanding of Godzilla are COMPLETELY incongruous next to his complaints about the movie. It flabbergasted me.




The Hesei series has its ups and downs, but Godzilla vs. Biollante I think stands above. It has a very bizarre atmosphere and subtext that was even more intriguing in its workprint version, from all accounts. The film was supposed to be a hyper-dreamy half-fantasy, as evidenced by thought-provoking excised lines from the script and cut effects footage such as this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4KxskJDCyQ&feature=related

Some of that dreamlike, intensely atmospheric feeling still remains, and as a result I find myself watching this much more than any other Hesei film, and it's one of my faves overall.

Teepsta - April 8, 2010 12:41 AM (GMT)
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Have you ever seen a rock melted by a force as hot as Godzilla's atomic ray? If you have, please tell me where, cause damn, I want to go. If not, then how can you say it doesn't look like a balloon deflating?


Because IRL rock subjected to extreme heat and force (such as the inside of a volcano or the epicenter of a nuclear blast) would be reduced to molten slag or simply vapourise, it wouldn't deflate like a balloon. :|

I found Mothra's fairy servants irritating and none of the other characters in the film made a lasting impression on me.

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The fact that our opinions are so staggeringly different and I'm totally non-understanding of your viewpoint means that I severely doubt I will be able to convince you that the film is good. I gave it the ol' college try, though. After this, I graciously bow out.


Different strokes for different folks. A sizable chunk of the fandom considers it amazing, I see a blandly generic Godzilla movie placed on an arbitrary pedestal. I guess I'm just a tasteless phillistine. X:




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