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Title: Ghost Pocket Monster Thread
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The Jaybird - February 6, 2012 05:27 PM (GMT)
Just a thread for my fave type of Pocket monster, and also the smallest and most neglected, considering the Youkai were a huge influence on Pokemon, its a shame that this is the smallest grouping, and in a lot of games, you dont meet ghost types untill quite a while into the game.

So this is a thread for dicussion on all ghost types, ghost Fakemon, and fanart.

Here is one of my fave pokes, and the Literal Ghost type, Yamask. It also has my favourite name of any ghost type (Yama - Hindu Lord of Death + Mask). Its also Influenced by an Egyptian Ba, which fits nicely with its awesome Evolution.

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This was the one that got me into Pokemon
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Clay Model of Yamask

Jesus lizard - February 6, 2012 08:07 PM (GMT)
I just today found out that Snorunt evolves into a ghost type.
Meaning that it dies when it evolves.

Rasec Wizzlbang - February 6, 2012 08:45 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Jesus lizard @ Feb 6 2012, 01:07 PM)
I just today found out that Snorunt evolves into a ghost type.
Meaning that it dies when it evolves.

Frosslass is one of my favorites.

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OuthouseInferno - February 6, 2012 10:22 PM (GMT)
Here's something that blowed my mind.


Gengar is the doppleganger pokemon. It also does stuff on the night of the full moon.

Which other pokemon does stuff on the full moon? Clefairy.

Oh, and:

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Piscasaurus - February 6, 2012 10:38 PM (GMT)
Supposedly, all who stare into the hole in Shedinja's back will have their soul sucked in.

And what does it look like when you use one in battle?

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NOOOOOOOOOOO

Wortcov - February 6, 2012 11:05 PM (GMT)
gastly will forever be my favorite ghost pokemon, not really sure why though.
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ScutigeraColeoptrata - February 6, 2012 11:27 PM (GMT)
I like your theory, Outhouse.

Hug-A-Slug - February 7, 2012 01:06 AM (GMT)
I've gotta say, my favorite all time Ghost-type pokemon has got to be Golurk.
Only because it makes me think of the animated 'Atlantis' movie, but whatever.
I'm still waiting on a Ghost/Fighting and a Ghost/Grass type.
I made a fakemon evolution of Mawile once... Mawraith, and it was a Ghost/Steel with Levitate as an ability. I've still got a picture of it somewhere on my hard drive, if you'd like to see my schlock.

Jesus lizard - February 7, 2012 01:50 AM (GMT)
Show us some schlock. slug!

Chupacabra - February 7, 2012 02:30 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Jesus lizard @ Feb 6 2012, 02:07 PM)
I just today found out that Snorunt evolves into a ghost type.
Meaning that it dies when it evolves.

Hex cannot be destroyed, only converted into hex. Blasphemer.

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And from the rib of 0169, 01DE was created as his helper, but she did surpass him, and she became his flesh and his bones, and Tangela saw that it was good.

The Jaybird - February 7, 2012 11:37 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (OuthouseInferno @ Feb 6 2012, 10:22 PM)
Here's something that blowed my mind.


Gengar is the doppleganger pokemon. It also does stuff on the night of the full moon.

Which other pokemon does stuff on the full moon? Clefairy.

Oh, and:

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Thats not a bad idea for the new game, and it would be cool if your oh so cute pink fluffball suddenly turned into a vicious gremlin :)
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Thats better.

I would love to see a ghost steel, and your ghost/steel, Hug-a-slug, especially if its half as badass as this one -
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The Ghosts of prisoners....awesome!
The description is as disturbing as the one for Yamask, which makes it one of my fave fakemons. Gamefreak, take note!

The Jaybird - February 7, 2012 04:35 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Jesus lizard @ Feb 6 2012, 08:07 PM)
I just today found out that Snorunt evolves into a ghost type.
Meaning that it dies when it evolves.

"Ghost" could just mean that it has contact with the spirit world, or has mystical ability, as opposed to actually dying.

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Something like this should happen in Pokemon, in Digimon monsters can die if they evolve, and its pretty cool

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Into this Abomination :D
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One of the greatest pieces of advice ever -

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You don't mess with a demented pink rat that can suddenly erupt into a giant, barfing tumor

Jonathan Wojcik, you said it Bro.


Chupacabra - February 7, 2012 05:29 PM (GMT)
"Ghost" may also be a simplistic way of referring to something with an intangible nature.

SpitBlaze - February 7, 2012 05:48 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Chupacabra @ Feb 7 2012, 05:29 PM)
"Ghost" may also be a simplistic way of referring to something with an intangible nature.

Party pooper.

Chupacabra - February 7, 2012 06:20 PM (GMT)
I was contributing to the Jaybird's post regarding the terminology of the "ghost" type in the pokemon games. Not to mention, dead organisms aren't known for eating, sleeping, aging, producing excretions or bearing offspring.

OuthouseInferno - February 7, 2012 07:36 PM (GMT)
Well:

Ghost-types can't be hit by fighting or normal moves. That's fine. But even within gen 1, it still meant they can be hit by ROCKS and BIRD BEAK, among other things.

Ghost-type moves are considered physical. Which is strange. And with the special split, it means fighting/normal moves like Focus Blast and Hyper Beam pass through ghosts entirely.

Who knows how these guys really work.


dodoman1 - February 7, 2012 08:11 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (The Jaybird @ Feb 7 2012, 06:37 AM)
I would love to see a ghost steel, and your ghost/steel, Hug-a-slug, especially if its half as badass as this one -
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The Ghosts of prisoners....awesome!
The description is as disturbing as the one for Yamask, which makes it one of my fave fakemons. Gamefreak, take note!

This looks nothing like a Pokemon though

OuthouseInferno - February 7, 2012 08:34 PM (GMT)
I think the third form does look like a Pokemon. The first two are a bit more complex than usual first/second evolution forms.

Rasec Wizzlbang - February 7, 2012 10:15 PM (GMT)
Phalcatraz

fucking awesome

The Jaybird - February 8, 2012 12:34 PM (GMT)
By that reckoning dodoman1, there are a hell of a lot of Pokemon that don't look like Pokemon. But the prisoner line pokes all look like Pocket Monsters, bona fide ones at that. Just look at Phalcatraz.


Anyone for a Ghost/Grass type? This family really caught my eye, and I would be thrilled if these ended up in the 6th gen.

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And for sinister ghost types, they dont get much more sinister or badass than the Litwick/Lampent/Chandelure Family,

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and they don't come much cuter than Litwick, one of my fave Pokes.
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Plus, they were inspired by the Japanese Lantern ghosts, and the evolution from cute little candle, to a more sinister lamp, to a soul burning monster Chandalier is almost perfect, a lot better than the Evolutions that Duskull goes though, which change hugely, and you would never guess were related.

OuthouseInferno - February 8, 2012 05:17 PM (GMT)
SO, the japanese name of Litwick...

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Hitomoshi seems to come from 火点し hitomoshi, which means to light a lamp, or the person who leads a funeral procession in Japan with a torch, matching its PokÚdex entry saying it leads people astray and then sucks out their life force. It also may come from 人燃し hitomoshi, which means to burn a man (to death).


wot


And not to mention all the Pokedex entries. Apparently, souls exist, up to and including the human soul. And your afterlife will be spent being devoured by these flaming ghost bastards.

scythemantis - February 8, 2012 09:28 PM (GMT)
Ghost moves were originally physical because they represented the ghosts clawing, biting, licking or hurling spheres of solid ghost-material.

These pass through normal living things, but are super-strong against other ghosts because they exist on the same plane, also why they were supposed to be strong against psychic types.

The anime shows that even physical moves like drill peck and iron tail involve some kind of glowing energy stuff.

Rasec Wizzlbang - February 8, 2012 09:34 PM (GMT)
I understand why they're strong against psychics cause of the ghost sensitivity thing, and why they're weak against dark types (they aint afraid o' no ghosts), but why are fighting types vulnerable while normal types are immune?

scythemantis - February 8, 2012 09:53 PM (GMT)
It might have just been an issue of game balance...but maybe fighting types have, like, uh, a fighting spirit ghosts can attack.

Chupacabra - February 8, 2012 10:13 PM (GMT)
It makes more sense if you think of the Normal type as the Nerd type. Nerds are too smart to believe in shit like ghosts and are thus immune to them, but they are weak to being punched in the face.

Rasec Wizzlbang - February 9, 2012 12:03 AM (GMT)
I always thought psychic types were nerd types. :<

Hug-A-Slug - February 9, 2012 01:17 AM (GMT)
I've got it here, now, but I'm not entirely sure how to put it into this post..

So will a link suffice?
Mawraith

(Edit- due to me being lazy, I'm putting up another version of this one, with an attempt at color mebbe?)

Rasec Wizzlbang - February 9, 2012 01:23 AM (GMT)
It needs a bit more pokefying, but the concept is perfect.

FILTHY_PEASANT - February 9, 2012 06:03 AM (GMT)
Just wondering, but have any of those Pokemon-creepypasta folks made anything about Yamask yet? Because you know, enslaving human souls is kind of a grey area.

The Jaybird - February 9, 2012 10:05 AM (GMT)
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There you go, Hug-A-Slug, This is a pretty good idea for a poke.

And outhouse Inferno -
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I know he just wants to burn your soul up like a flare on a oil platform, but JUST LOOK AT HOW CUTE IT IS!!!!

The Jaybird - February 9, 2012 10:16 AM (GMT)
And back to cool ideas for ghost pokes, here is a great one. Phantrait and Vanitom

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The First Stage is good, both male and famale, and the Male painting Vanitom is nice. But the Vanitom female is just awesome, I love how pissed off and angry it looks, and the way the mirror breaks as the spirit tries to escape.
Very nice.

scythemantis - February 9, 2012 10:59 AM (GMT)
I've had a lot of ghost type ideas:

Ghost/psychic brain
Ghost/fighting heart
Ghost/poison digestive tract
(these three would form a trio from a haunted hospital)

Ghost/rock tombstone, also nurikabe-like
Ghost/steel iron maiden
Ghost/ground mud cyclops
Ghost/grass ghost flower (duh)
Ghost/flying skyfish
Ghost/water Larvacean

And a ghost type that appears as a silhouette of your pokemon with its identical moves, all permanent when captured.

The Jaybird - February 9, 2012 06:20 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (scythemantis @ Feb 9 2012, 10:59 AM)

Ghost/water Larvacean


What about a water type salp, and a ghost type Shrimp like critter, and they evolved together with the shrimp using the salp as a shield? Im sure something happens like that in nature....... :)

OuthouseInferno - February 9, 2012 06:32 PM (GMT)
There's still TONS of unexplored space in ghost/water types alone.

Hell, who'd have ever thought that the first ghost/water representative would be Mr. Pringles?

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dodoman1 - February 9, 2012 08:14 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (scythemantis @ Feb 9 2012, 05:59 AM)
I've had a lot of ghost type ideas:

Ghost/psychic brain
Ghost/fighting heart
Ghost/poison digestive tract
(these three would form a trio from a haunted hospital)

Ghost/rock tombstone, also nurikabe-like
Ghost/steel iron maiden
Ghost/ground mud cyclops
Ghost/grass ghost flower (duh)
Ghost/flying skyfish
Ghost/water Larvacean

And a ghost type that appears as a silhouette of your pokemon with its identical moves, all permanent when captured.

Ghost/Water Fiji mermaids.
A Ghost/Steel haunted carousel/circus tent.
A pure-Ghost "headless horseman" that can evolve into a number of different forms based on held items or other Pokemon in the party, gaining both a head and a second type.

Piscasaurus - February 9, 2012 10:31 PM (GMT)
Hey, I drew a Haunter.

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A while back I had came up with a ghost type legendary trio based off of classic movie monsters.
Ghost/Rock - A mummy
Ghost/Steel - Frankenstein's monster
Ghost/Psychic - A vampire

Not the most original concepts in the world, but I think they might be fun to draw. I probably will get around to doing so at some point.

Rasec Wizzlbang - February 9, 2012 11:25 PM (GMT)
Still waiting for a jack-o'-lantern grass/ghost. I've seen a lot of great fakemon of this, but it's really weird there isn't an official one, yet. Especially considering how many pumpkin/jack-o'-lantern type monsters there are in Japanese media.

The Jaybird - February 10, 2012 07:56 PM (GMT)
Yeah, Cacturne is pretty close looking to a pumpkin carving head wise, and is pretty dark pokedex wise. But there really needs to be a pumpkin creature.

On the ghost classification and the solid versus gas nature of the ghost line, I think most of them are pretty solid, Like the Litwick/Lampent/Chandelure line, but I think quite a lot of them can be solid when it suits them.

The word for ghost in Japan, Obake, can also be translated to monster, and the word is applied to a whole range of supernatural creatures.

Back to the ghost Pokes, I like Spiritomb as a concept, but I dislike the colour and it could have looked a bit meaner.

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"For being made out of 108 forever damned souls it didn┤t look that frightning in the original artwork." In that picture, it does.

It always bugged me why Sableye was given the same type as Spiritomb, as it would have been far better suited to a Ground/Rock type.


dodoman1 - February 10, 2012 08:09 PM (GMT)
Except that Sableye is based on an alien encounter and isn't just rocks.

The Jaybird - February 10, 2012 08:21 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (dodoman1 @ Feb 10 2012, 08:09 PM)
Except that Sableye is based on an alien encounter and isn't just rocks.

Thats what it has for Breakfast, and the two aliens from gen 5 Elygem and Beheeyem are both Psychic types. As a Dark/Ghost type, I totally buy a bunch of dammed souls as that type, but not (the admittedly super cute and well designed) Sableye.




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