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Title: Theorized 30 meter prehistoric cephalopod
Description: that's 98 feet for us Americans.


Jesus lizard - October 10, 2011 11:11 PM (GMT)
Oh, also, it was supposedly sapient.

http://gsa.confex.com/gsa/2011AM/finalprog...ract_197227.htm
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/...11010075530.htm

I shouldn't even have to say how awesome this theory is.

Wrinkledlion X - October 10, 2011 11:39 PM (GMT)
As cool an idea as it is, I wish they hadn't mentioned the whole self-portrait thing. It makes a potentially awesome creature sound way less credible.

Revereche - October 10, 2011 11:57 PM (GMT)
As much as I would love to believe this, that's a lot of hypothesis from very little evidence.

Rasec Wizzlbang - October 10, 2011 11:57 PM (GMT)
I want this to exist.

Wrinkledlion X - October 11, 2011 12:01 AM (GMT)
I was hoping they'd found a fossilized beak or squid pen or something.

Admiral_Aorta - October 11, 2011 12:51 AM (GMT)
There's any number of reasons that those icthyosaurs could've died in the same place, none of which involve making up a blue whale sized intelligent squid. The whole thing is kinda silly. There's a thing pointing out the lack of evidence here.

Chupacabra - October 11, 2011 01:35 AM (GMT)
Sorry, this is too fucking goofy and there is too little evidence. Sensationalistic labeling and wild jumps in speculation are not convincing to me.

dodoman1 - October 11, 2011 01:45 AM (GMT)
lol, call me when they find a giant fossil squid anywhere around

Rasec Wizzlbang - October 11, 2011 02:03 AM (GMT)
We can dream.

xolta - October 11, 2011 03:59 AM (GMT)
After the rational re reading this i can under stand the setpikisim and thought it would be cool if they were real i doubt some thing like this was ever alive.

Revereche - October 11, 2011 04:23 AM (GMT)
It's definitely possible something like this lived, it's just that this is not convincing proof - too much inferred from too little. Xolta likes Godzilla, but he probably doesn't raise crocodiles in his bathtub and train them to fight in black market betting matches.

Chupacabra - October 11, 2011 04:25 AM (GMT)
Right. This is basically just a more complex version of currently living organisms. The problem here is how ballbustingly theoretical it is.

Rasec Wizzlbang - October 11, 2011 04:30 AM (GMT)
Well yeah, cephalopods have been around since the late Cambrian, they've had plenty of time to evolve to any size/sentience they want.

Of course, I think that oxygen levels in triassic oceans were pretty low, so it's unlikely for a cephalopod to reach that size unless it had developed a more efficient circulatory system, I think.

Revereche - October 11, 2011 04:42 AM (GMT)
Cephalopods are the only mollusks with closed circulatory systems. Or are you referring to the use of less efficient hemocyanin?

xolta - October 11, 2011 04:52 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Revereche @ Oct 10 2011, 10:23 PM)
It's definitely possible something like this lived, it's just that this is not convincing proof - too much inferred from too little. Xolta likes Godzilla, but he probably doesn't raise crocodiles in his bathtub and train them to fight in black market betting matches.

oh I see your point. Now if you need me i will be exposing crocodiles to radiation and training them to fight.

Rasec Wizzlbang - October 11, 2011 06:12 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Revereche @ Oct 10 2011, 09:42 PM)
Cephalopods are the only mollusks with closed circulatory systems. Or are you referring to the use of less efficient hemocyanin?

Yeah, that. I didn't know what octopus blood was called. :unsure:

Revereche - October 11, 2011 06:47 AM (GMT)
Wikipedia forever.

The_Qu - October 11, 2011 08:44 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (dodoman1 @ Oct 11 2011, 01:45 AM)
lol, call me when they find a giant fossil squid anywhere around

Can cephalapods even leave fossils? I'd think they'd be too gooey and decay too quickly to leave anything but the hard bits, like beaks.

Makes me wonder just how many animals never left fossils because they just plain couldn't.

Revereche - October 11, 2011 09:03 AM (GMT)
Oh, soft-bodied creatures can certainly leave fossils - it's just much, much more difficult. Generally they're just faint impressions on the rock.

Admiral_Aorta - October 11, 2011 09:12 AM (GMT)
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Cephalopods are the only mollusks with closed circulatory systems.

Annelids also have them.

Brontozaurus - October 11, 2011 09:16 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (The_Qu @ Oct 11 2011, 08:44 AM)
Can cephalapods even leave fossils? I'd think they'd be too gooey and decay too quickly to leave anything but the hard bits, like beaks.

Makes me wonder just how many animals never left fossils because they just plain couldn't.

Yeah they can. They're called ammonites. We have found some soft-bodied cephalopod fossils, too.

As for this theory...yeah. It's too out-there for the supposed evidence. Plus the 'vertebrae arrangement look like squid tentacles' thing is too much like people seeing Jesus on toast for me.

Chupacabra - October 11, 2011 02:32 PM (GMT)
Very rarely, a soft-bodied cephalopod will leave a fossil inprint.

user posted image

Revereche - October 11, 2011 07:52 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Admiral_Aorta @ Oct 11 2011, 04:12 AM)
Annelids also have them.

. . . So, are you implying annelids are also mollusks, or just throwing that out there by way of conversation?

It's worth noting that even "soft-bodied" cephalopods have the remnants of a shell in their mantles. That's the cuttlebone pet birds whet their beaks on.

Jesus lizard - October 11, 2011 08:39 PM (GMT)
What do parrots use as whetstones in the wild?

Admiral_Aorta - October 11, 2011 08:50 PM (GMT)
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just throwing that out there by way of conversation?

This is what I was doing.

Nomic - October 12, 2011 08:20 PM (GMT)
Tsk, tsk. I'm ashamed of you people. Yes, this is all extremely speculative and likely to be bullshit, but we shouldn't focus on pointing that out. There are other people for that. We're Bogleech! We should say that this is in all likelyhood no true, but it would be soo awesome if it was!

Rasec Wizzlbang - October 12, 2011 09:02 PM (GMT)
What if they're still around?

What if...

They've built a civilization deep in the pacific, and they're plotting to take the surface world?

Spivsy - October 12, 2011 09:05 PM (GMT)
What if... They already have?

Rasec Wizzlbang - October 12, 2011 09:15 PM (GMT)
WHO'S TO SAY WE'RE NOT ALL KRAKEN?!

Revereche - October 12, 2011 10:20 PM (GMT)
And then we were Cthulhu.




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