I'm outta here, goodbye to all that even care.

Glad everything is all well in the orbit that is Ceaseless. He got his "community apology" although the issue was well over and done with in everyone else's opinion but he just couldn't let it go.

I doubt this VV will last very long anyway.

Wow, the drama!!
Fine, leave. Have fun in life. This all seems so useless to me, but whatever.

Peace, OUT!!

Did you just come to apologize and then end on a note that would lead to just an argument?...

Doesn't make much sense

I don't care about this feud between the two of you. What is between only you two should have never been made public. Everyone else is past this, and could care less about all the drama. It is time for both of you to grow up.

That would be one opinion.

What has happened tonight could have easily been avoided, and I am not pleased with the way either of you two handled it. Like I said before, there are no winners or losers in this matter, and it is time we move on. Goodbye, Top Kirby. Best of luck.

:huh:

TK, I actually thought you were better than this, you've made 3 other topics to your Intro topic, and you've not helped the situation, I respected you because you are well known and you have a good rep. and are civilized.

Me and Gemz (as you know) have had problems which you attempted to help us, and I appriciated it, so maybe you could use those 'skills' to sort you and Cease.
Anyways the whole point of me mentioning that ^^ is because like I said me and Gemz have had a fall out and i'm attempting to talk to her (Via IFsupport PM, which may I add she still hasn't got back to) so baring that in mind maybe you could talk, or at least be civilized with Cease. {same for you as well Cease}


As for this arguing/etc. about VV, it was your board therefore it was your decision to delete it pass it on w/e - However, as for this VV not lasting long, that obv. is your opinion, some might agree, others might not; I personally am not sure, our members are low ATM but our activity is high, so we do have a fighting chance.


Anyways, I personally don't want you to leave, for a few reasons but you seemed to have made your mind up, so see you around mate - Good Luck to your future ideas/happenings.

I'd like to make a few apologies. First of all, to Top Kirby - although I did my best to disagree with your actions, rather than attack you, I do believe the word "egotistical" slipped out in one PM, and I'm sorry. Also, although I believe everything I said to you, I apologize if I was too relentless in my pursuit of an apology, and I'm sorry for that.

Second, to Variety Villa - I'm very sorry that I let this get out of hand. This is the third time he's brought this up, and I should have resolved it quickly. It quickly became personal (athough that was not my intention) and I should have taken care of it quickly. As hard as I try to be fair and do the right thing, I still have a bit of an ego, and it's hard for me to take insults lying down, but I should have swallowed my pride and done so. I also perhaps should not have asked for an apology to all of you. Although it wa the right thing to do, looking back, you never asked for one. You were willing to either forgive or forget (you know which one it was) immediately, and I applaud you for that.

I also have some statements to make, however. First and most importantly, I never was trying to get petty revenge on TK. I hope all of you know it and I especially hope TK knows it. I was trying to bridge the gap between us, but unlike you, I could not take the first step - forgiveness - until he was sorry. That's just how I work. I would very much like to end this feud, but I'd also like to say (and not for the purpose of attacking TK) that every time this argument has become personal, it has never been my doing. The emails, the PM's, even the thread - although I posted the reply that I would not forgive if it was not asked for, it was not for the purpose of argument, merely a statement of how I work. I also tried not to allow it to become personal, and I persoanlly think that the aformentined "egotistical" was the only time I actually attacked HIM.

Again, I apologize to all of you. I'm sorry it had to end like this, but (and again, this is not to attack TK), this is the fifth time he's said he would leave Variety Villa. I think he'll be back. Maybe he'll read this; maybe not, but I needed to say it.

That took a lot of courage to say, CeaselessMedik, and I applaud you for every word. You are a good man, which I have never doubted, and you have proven that pride doesn't always get in the way of principle. We all have our faults, and those who recogize them first are the first to attempt to fix them whenever possible.

I made many mistakes as a former owner of the old VV, and if I never admitted to any of them, I am sure that I would have been given even less respect because of it. Nobody is right all of the time. In this case, both you and TK were wrong in ways, but I am glad that this is finally showing signs of ending on a much higher note.

Throughout the future of this place, there will be good times and bad times. Hopefully the good times will rise above the bad times. A place that last a long time does not know how to avoid the bad times, for they are bound to happen, but are rather good at dealing with and getting past them.

Wow, so what was the point of even coming here then TK? All you do is come here and start bitching to CM about the past and we are trying to move on. If you want to do us a favor, just stay the fuck away from VV.

Also sorry if this is to offensive and such but this is what I'm thinking now after TK came and started posting all these topics about crap.

I must agree the "I'm waiting to see what Ceaseless says about this" could be taken as inciting another fight, but nonetheless TK is welcome here if he agrees to le it go as well.