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Title: Let's Make An Unreal World Wikipedia Page!
Description: Come add and edit!


SveeKo - April 22, 2012 05:49 PM (GMT)
So it has come to our attention that Unreal World does not have an English-language Wikipedia page, and Sami put out the suggestion that we make one as a community. I think that is an awesome idea! I'll start out, and I am hoping that others can add to it, make it really great, and then we can publish it!

Feel free to copy/paste what I wrote, edit it, put the edited version back here, etc. until it really pays homage to this great game!

NOTE: I have been editing this on and off, inspired by how much awesome this game has and the small blurb on Sami's official website. Good portions of the following were stolen [I mean borrowed] from Dark Art and Vandigeth's fantastic descriptions in the thread that Erkka linked to in the post below. But plagiarizing is what Wikipepdia is all about, right?

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UnReal World

UnReal World is a rougelike sandbox game with a focus on survival. Set in a realistic Finland in the late Iron Age, the player controls a single character attempting to live in the harsh environment. Unlike most RPGs, UnReal World has no set quests to go on or specific actions one must perform. Gameplay is entirely open-ended, and there are many ways to play the game. It has been in development for over two decades, and continues to be actively improved and updated. A free shareware trial version is available at http://www.jmp.fi/~smaarane/urw.html

Character Creation

At the beginning of each game the player can choose to be a tribe member of one of ten fictional cultures, each with different skillsets based on their main activity: some are fishermen, others hunters, traders, or farmers. This choice will contribute to the balance of skills that the player starts out with. For example, those who live on the coast are better fisherman than most, while those who live next to aggressive raiders are more inclined in combat skills. Then the world is randomly generated and a starting location is chosen. After a character is created, the player can choose between tutorials or other starting scenarios and be placed next to a village or on your own as a runaway slave.

The Game World

The game world is created anew with each game, and is littered with features one would expect from an untamed wild: forests, mountains, villages, rivers, caves, and pastures can be found throughout the large countryside. The human cultures occupy their own part of the land, and are distinguished by how their towns are set up, what the villagers will trade, the different products that are sold in those towns, and in some cases the types of weapons associated with those cultures.

Gameplay

Gameplay is focused on interacting with the natural world and the animals and people that inhabit it. Items such as food, clothes or armor, weapons, building materials, tools, and herbs are important, because they will aid in the player's ability to survive various situations or maladies. Thus, resource management is essential because the player must eat, drink, sleep (preferably in a sheltered area), and keep warm and safe to survive. There is no set way to go about this, however; one can be a hermit fisherman, lone woodsman, traveling merchant, villager, farmer, or even a murderous town-raider to survive in UnReal World.

Players are not leveled up in the traditional sense of an RPG, in that there are no classes, skillpoints, or perks. Rather, the entire repertoire of actions is open to any player, regardless of skill level, as there is no restrictions on what player should or shouldn’t do. The success or failure of an action (whether it be skinning a hide, fishing, building a fire, climbing a tree, or attacking with a spear) is determined by one's skill in that particular area. Skills themselves are categories such as cookery or trapping that govern a broad set of actions that a player can perform, ranging from basic shamanic rituals, to making clothes, weapons, or a log cottage. As the player performs these actions, he or she will gain more experience in them and become more proficient in the given skill. All of these skills will in some way contribute to the player's success or failure to survive throughout the game.

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General comments:

I never really know here how much detail I should go into vs. how much should be left for the player to discover. I think that I really left out the combat and crafting system, but I don't really know how to approach describing them the proper way.

Also, I tried very hard to just give the facts and just describe what the game is without my invariable bias, and I probably failed. Of course I want to get people interested in the game, but this is Wikipedia here and we can't be too sales-persony or preachy.

What we need:

Screencaps! It's always nice to have ones that are different from the ones on the webpage, so people who go there run into new things.

People who have been playing the game longer than I have! Who can write! Please add to or cut out things out of my preliminary draft. I really want this entry to live up to the greatness of UnReal World.

Thanks for taking the time to read this all and (hopefully!) contribute.

erkka - April 22, 2012 06:37 PM (GMT)
Great!

Let's also bring up this one: a thread about urw review


Kerkain - April 23, 2012 03:03 PM (GMT)
Lets not forget the current URW Wiki which has a boatload of information.

It already has a nice base of information. Just needs more people putting in their input.

I'd hate to see someone reinventing the wheel so to speak.

gladius2metal - April 25, 2012 09:13 AM (GMT)
hi,
it seems that an UnReal World Page was created on Wikipedia already back in 2007, but it was deleted.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UnReal_World

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This page has been deleted. The deletion and move log for the page are provided below for reference.

    18:37, 24 September 2007 Dreadstar (talk | contribs) deleted page UnReal World (Delete per WP:CSD#G11, blatant advertising)
    10:02, 6 July 2007 Soumyasch (talk | contribs) deleted page UnReal World (expired prod)



I took a short glimpse at the wikipedia guidelines and it is necessary that the topic of the entry is "notably", which comes back to have several references - ideally good ones like the GameSpy article and not like the review on a blog that has 3 entries.

So far I found 2 major references - the developer homepage doesn't really count:
^ a b "UnReal World, The". Home_of_the_underdogs. Retrieved 2012-04-25.
^ "UnReal World development". Enormous Elk. Retrieved 2012-04-25.
^ "I Survived Medieval Finland". GameSpy. Retrieved 2012-04-25.

I made a small draft article and with these references chances are better (than before) that the article won't get axed again.

One major and important source would be an entry in mobygames, nearly all games entered in wikipedia have an entry there.
http://www.mobygames.com/new_game_wizard
If someone create an entry there I could reference, I would put up my page and everyone could freely edit. Note that I have a wikipedia account that is several years old, yet with only a few edits, but nevertheless this grants several privileges that I don't wanna waste by putting up a page that gets axed immediately. (Or that I get a mark for "blatant advertising" or something).

gladius2metal - April 26, 2012 10:38 AM (GMT)
sometimes I a bit impatient, hence I submitted to wikipedia

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Review waiting.

This submission is waiting to be reviewed. This may take several days. The Articles for Creation process is severely backlogged. Please be patient.
There are currently 781 submissions waiting for review at this page.

    If the submission is accepted, then this page will be moved into the article space.
    If the submission is declined, then the reason will be posted here. Please check back here later to see the outcome of your request.
    In the meantime, you can continue to improve this article by pressing the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.

erkka - April 26, 2012 08:04 PM (GMT)
OK, and I submissed an entry to MobyGames. I'll edit this post when the entry is committed to their database.


gladius2metal - April 26, 2012 08:06 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (erkka @ Apr 26 2012, 08:04 PM)
OK, and I submissed an entry to MobyGames. I'll edit this post when the entry is committed to their database.

awesome! thx

Sami Maaranen - April 29, 2012 12:29 PM (GMT)
There's bunch of references listed at "Reviews & Media" on the game homepage.
And there's more hidden within internet - I've been far too lazy to add them to the list.
This for example:
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/12/15...-in-roguelikes/

And there are numerous notable references in roguelike genre, for example:

http://roguebasin.roguelikedevelopment.org...hp/UnReal_World

http://www.roguetemple.com/2011/12/27/asci...r-2011-winners/

gladius2metal - April 29, 2012 01:14 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Sami Maaranen @ Apr 29 2012, 12:29 PM)
There's bunch of references listed at "Reviews & Media" on the game homepage.
And there's more hidden within internet - I've been far too lazy to add them to the list.
This for example:
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/12/15...-in-roguelikes/

And there are numerous notable references in roguelike genre, for example:

http://roguebasin.roguelikedevelopment.org...hp/UnReal_World

http://www.roguetemple.com/2011/12/27/asci...r-2011-winners/

thx, I added two references the RPS and roguelike, whereas the RPS reference is the most important, because RPS has already an existing page on wikipedia thus it has certainly a reference value.

I have now 3 references from pages that are also present on wikipedia which sould be enough:
* Home of the Underdogs
* GameSpy
* RPS

also
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There are currently 459 submissions waiting for review

so the page should be approved next week, I guess.


gladius2metal - April 30, 2012 08:50 AM (GMT)
it looks like about 50 pending entries are before the UnReal World article :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...missions&from=P

SveeKo - May 4, 2012 11:40 PM (GMT)
Wow! I leave for a little while and I come back to this? You guys are amazing! That's really cool, Gladius, that you took the initiative and made a whole new article.

Only thing you might want to look at, though, is that the citation for ref #5 is a little messed up and I don't know how to fix it.

Thanks for everything, though, it looks awesome!

gladius2metal - May 7, 2012 06:06 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (SveeKo @ May 4 2012, 11:40 PM)
Wow! I leave for a little while and I come back to this? You guys are amazing! That's really cool, Gladius, that you took the initiative and made a whole new article.

Only thing you might want to look at, though, is that the citation for ref #5 is a little messed up and I don't know how to fix it.

Thanks for everything, though, it looks awesome!


thx :)

finally it got approved, I was offline for about 4 days, here the link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UnReal_World

happy editing

ps: I will fix the reference soon, it was ok before, but some minor edits happened

erkka - May 18, 2012 12:54 PM (GMT)
and now also:

UrW is in Mobygames

I'm not yet so familiar with standards of MobyGames - for example I didn't figure out where I should add a link to the official homepage. Also, I sent them one screenshot, but since it was not of standard size, the picture is awaiting for approval.

Well, all in all - anyone whom feels like that, feel free to go and add reviews, upload screenshots, write trivia etc.

Also, you can send feedback to me, if you feel I should add or correct something. I already think that later on we could add more detailed version history, since mobygames seems to support that. Also, I have to take look at other indie games, how they use "Credits"-section, so I can fill it in for UrW too.


gladius2metal - May 26, 2012 01:21 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (erkka @ May 18 2012, 12:54 PM)
and now also:

UrW is in Mobygames

thx, added the link to the wikipedia page.




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