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 Scroll III: The Great War, Chaos Regins Astonia, HK in the midst
Ashild
Posted: Feb 28 2008, 06:29 PM


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Raiders Elite strikes again...

About an hour after a long conversation on /c5 about how Life desired to feud with HK, Lifejr took HK head on in what really seemed to just be a one-man raid.

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We kept him and a few low-level RE members off easily, but the story is still unfolding. Will Lifejr strike again? And to add more fuel to the fire, right now there is discussion of HK going in to the heart of Raiders Elite and striking their clan vault. Stay tuned.
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Krome
Posted: Feb 28 2008, 07:36 PM


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The suspense is killing me ohmy.gif
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Ashild
Posted: Feb 28 2008, 07:52 PM


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lol well in the end nothing happened, although I wasn't watching as intensely as I could so I could've missed something, there have been no further raids as far as I can tell.
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veggie
Posted: Feb 28 2008, 09:15 PM


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if youll notice the first 3 screenies , well yeah im spaced out yet again, i just never have it together for screenies. warn me so i can fix my hair or smile or something, damn poperazzi..
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Ashild
Posted: Feb 29 2008, 02:22 PM


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There have been some interesting developments in the relations of the Holy Kingdom.

Within the last 24 hours we allied New World Order. One thing of note is that we're keeping this quiet so don't be too loud about it. It's all part of a new strategy.

Another interesting thought, Rebeccas mentioned a potential strategy of striking Zaramoth's Horns, as Raiders Elite keeps stealing our jewels and selling to them. It would be a way of getting back at RE. This kind of thing is sure to cause an outcry, so before you pass judgement, let me state the facts. Rebeccas did say she does like Ophelia but fair is fair. What's happening with Ophy now is she's basically quit the game, the one who's now in charge is Pierrot. Ophy is currently trying to get out of the military from what I've heard but I don't know how that works.

However, don't take this as a given, today when I asked about the possible planned attack on Zaramoth's Horns everyone said they didn't want to have anything to do with it. One snippet of wisdom Kjp said was "if we want to GET at RE just raid them instead." The ones who were online at the time said we should all have a meeting when Rebeccas and Veggie are online to discuss this topic further.
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Ashild
Posted: Mar 1 2008, 02:50 AM


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Holy Kingdom and New World Order
I'm back with more details, in particular on today's meeting regarding whether we should strike Zaramoth's Horns or not in our strategy to take down Raiders Elite. Through the meeting we found out that leaders of the Holy Kingdom have been in talks with New World Order, and quite a few bits have come out of it.

Let me start off by saying that both New World Order and the Holy Kingdom have a common goal, that is to destroy Raiders Elite. Unfortunately, we have different views about how to go about that, and this is what will makes things very interesting.

So to explain what's going on, first you need a bit of background. It turns out Ophelia (from Zaramoth's Horns) is Fazthestampede's (from Raiders Elite) girlfriend, in some sense of the word. From what I gather it's just over the internet but I'm unsure. I can tell you that I have often personally seen them in the mines together. Consequently, the expectation is that if we were to raid Zaramoth's Horns, Fazthestampede would want to run to their aid as it's his girlfriend's clan. The key to this strategy is that we rely upon the fact that Lifejr (from Raiders Elite) would not want to defend Zaramoth's Horns - causing a split within Raiders Elite! The hope was that this would break Raiders Elite from the inside.

Through this meeting though, two major flaws were found in this strategy.
  • None of us want to raid Zaramoth's Horns. They're innocent, that's not what we're about.
  • Ophelia has left, meaning Faz would have no problem standing back, and so there would be no split in the end.
Unfortunately, this is where the differences between NWO and HK show.

The strategy we've decided on is to consistently raid Raiders Elite down to the point where they cannot live anymore. We've almost done it once before. A while ago they raided us all the way down to negative CJs, and we singlehandedly taught them a lesson the next day, taking them down to 7 CJs. Lifejr was so mad when he had to turn off all bonuses just to survive. If all we did was keep them at that low jewel count for a prolonged period of time, they would eventually fold.

Unfortunately, Raiders Elite is a lot stronger now, and to take them down to negative CJs we need NWO, we cannot do it without them. But this is where NWO and HK disagree.

Raiders Elite love raiding, and they love to be raided. We all agree with that. Some of us have said that if we had just ignored them from the start and never retaliated, we would never be in this war. NWO have taken this idea to the heart, and they don't want to raid RE, they don't want to give them that satisfaction.

So that is the heart of the matter. NWO don't want to raid RE, but they want to raid ZH. We want to raid RE, and we definitely don't want to raid ZH. We're opposite.

Unfortunately the alliance we have built with NWO was built on the condition that we help NWO attack ZH. And so we have a dilemma. How do we maintain our alliance if we don't want to keep our promises?

What we've decided is to keep a defense pact between us both, which neither of us will have a problem with. Rebeccas will work on convincing NWO that we need to raid RE and not ZH, teach them that it is futile. All the while, we need to maintain a strong relationship with NWO - our alliance is new and if they were to feel betrayed, RE would have no problem helping them take us down. The very survival of our clan relies on keeping NWO on our side.

So, as a member of HK, what do you need to know?
  1. All of this information is top-secret. We cannot let NWO know any of our strategies or thoughts because losing them would spell our death. So keep this quiet. Rebeccas will solely take charge of convincing NWO out of the "destroy ZH" mindset, leave her to it.
  2. Also, if we NWO does raid Zaramoth horns, stay back! We have decided not to interfere, stick with that decision.
Turning NWO around to help us raid RE will take time, so in the meantime just be patient. Keep checking back for more information on the inner workings of the Holy Kingdom!
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Ashild
Posted: Mar 1 2008, 03:15 AM


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Other news
Even more happened today, and I'm putting it in a separate post we all know it's a separate topic.

Raiders Elite attacked Knights Tavern today, and just to piss them off we defended when they were down to about 6% health. Later on today we allied them. Here's a picture of them attacking Knights Tavern:
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Raiders Elite have also have switched to neutral relations with Diplomats.

Scorpions of Fire are down to 8 jewels currently. We expect they will be dead by the end of tomorrow. RIP Scorpion of Fire.

We attacked both Raiders Elite and Neo Pessimiste at the same time today. RE/NP couldn't hold us off. Here's a few screenies:

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Note how New World Order was helping us raid Raiders Elite. Interesting...
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Ashild
Posted: Mar 1 2008, 03:16 AM


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More screenies:

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Turns out you can only have 10 images per post so I had to put these in a separate one.
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bart
  Posted: Mar 1 2008, 07:00 AM


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QUOTE
Raiders Elite love raiding, and they love to be raided. We all agree with that. Some of us have said that if we had just ignored them from the start and never retaliated, we would never be in this war. NWO have taken this idea to the heart, and they don't want to raid RE, they don't want to give them that satisfaction.

So that is the heart of the matter. NWO don't want to raid RE, but they want to raid ZH. We want to raid RE, and we definitely don't want to raid ZH. We're opposite.


IMHO: As previously stated, it is almost impossible to destroy a clan with a solid group of mid to high level members that play regularly by bringing their jewel count to zero. You might be able to destroy such a clan by destroying their morale (splitting them up over differences in opinion or denying them their hearts desire) in some way. NWO has a wise assessment (RE lives to raid and be raided) of the big picture but a faulty solution to it as raiding begets raiding.

I am one of the proponents of ignoring RE in general and defending when raided only. I liken it to disciplining a child. Correction(defend strongly) is more important than punishment(raiding). The lesson to be taught, "leave us alone, period". Correction leads to a peaceful houshold with the inhabitants getting along and having the space to do what they want. Punishment leads to further rebellion and conflict as the one punished seeks to even the score. If we just stopped their raids short and didn't raid back, we would bore them to death. They would find another target eventually. Then we would be saying, "Why was it we wanted to destroy RE?"
Of course there are ways of dividing RE hehe. But is it really nessesary?

This is only one man's opinion and as always I will serve the clan and carry out their decisions as best I can. So, cya in a clanvault soon!
Love ya all biggrin.gif

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mettadown
Posted: Mar 13 2008, 05:39 PM


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Sorry ashild but really? you know very little. ophe and faz live on diff sides of the country, have met but don't go out in rl.

Don't attack zh even tho pie fucks me off

Re does NOT live to raid and be raided, i was talking with life and spinn about a month ago, and they both said they get sick of raiding just like the rest of us (back when spinn was re faithful)

I'm out of the current loop, but wth would silver say. He started the clan as a place where we could all be safe from re, now we've gotten greedy, ffs! Let nwo and re duke it out, even if u kill re, life can easily get another cj and start it all over again, there are heaps more clan slots than ow, so there'll just be re reborn or some shit.

my 7 cents.
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CJP
Posted: Mar 13 2008, 05:45 PM


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We havent raided for awhile(We are at neutral with RE/NP atm... NP and RE unallied early today..... see where it goes), and it was nwo who actually raided zh. when ophe quit the plan was lost so that was the only time they were raided

And yes ophe quit, about right before nwo raided them, not from us/nwo/any1, she just quit
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Ashild
Posted: Mar 13 2008, 11:26 PM


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Well I really tried to get it right but I guess in the end what I write just depends on who's online at that particular time. So maybe if you had been online when people were talking about Ophe and Faz or when Rebeccas asked if everyone agreed that RE loved to be raided during that meeting, we might've had more perspective on those topics.
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Ashild
Posted: Mar 21 2008, 01:30 AM


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Not really sure how things got so bad today.

Started off with someone lying to Rebeccas which made us pull out of defending Diplomats from RE/SS, until we realised the stories didn't match and so we rushed back to raid SS.

And then later on RE started raiding us. And they haven't stopped for hours. They've stolen 132 jewels so far, taking us down to 77 jewels, and they're still going. Tizzcdn went in for a bit and we worked out they're raiding with blanks, since he nearly owned four RE members all at once, including Lifejr.

Looks like we've got some work to do tomorrow.

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Ashild
Posted: Mar 21 2008, 01:46 AM


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I must've spoke too soon! After Tizzcdn arrived, Karpun came online, closely followed by Rebeccas. The tides have turned. Here are some shots of us kicking RE and NP out of our clan vault.

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Ashild
Posted: Mar 21 2008, 01:59 AM


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So we're going to raid a number of clans in retaliation as far as I can tell, starting with RE. Here we are giving RE the same treatment:

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