Addendum for Martha Graham's case

I think in the list of 100 undisputedly oldest women only need to have three addendum cases rather than 4, Martha Graham is proven to live at least 114 years 180 days circa, despite the family believed her to have been 117 or 118 when she died. Temporary with youngest age claimed, she still in top 100, addendum is not needed

Nope.

Graham is a grandfathered case validated with lower standards not used today, the most interesting being the issue with none of her documents coming within the 20-year rule. I would regard this a FALSE case.

Basically this. Graham was highly likely to have been around 102 at the time of her death. That's the only way that she could have had one child in her teenage years and another child in her late 40s.

Basically this. Graham was highly likely to have been around 102 at the time of her death. That's the only way that she could have had one child in her teenage years and another child in her late 40s.

Where does "102" come from? I have only heard that from Carrie C.White's case?

Basically this. Graham was highly likely to have been around 102 at the time of her death. That's the only way that she could have had one child in her teenage years and another child in her late 40s.

Where does "102" come from? I have only heard that from Carrie C.White's case?

There's a thread somewhere in this forum where Calvin did some research and came up with this age. I don't know exactly where this thread is right now, but feel free to ask Calvin or someone else or look for it yourself.

The thread was started by Dakota and we have found out that Mrs Graham could be born between 1852 and 1859, making her 99-106 at her death in 1959. She should be removed.

I see, that meant her age was exaggerated by at least 8 years ?!

I'm wondering if any disputed cases will ever be removed..

I see, that meant her age was exaggerated by at least 8 years ?!

Why shocked?

Some cases are exaggerated by more than 10 years...

Interestingly, Martha Graham's death certificate notes her as having been born on 15 April 1841 and having died on 24 June 1959 — a claim to 118 years 70 days.

I see, that meant her age was exaggerated by at least 8 years ?!

Why shocked?

Some cases are exaggerated by more than 10 years...

I imagined that she was like Kamato Hongo, who was at least 110 at death...

At present there are five disputed cases on the list; Carrie White, Kamato Hongo, Anatica Butariu, Matthew Beard and Martha Graham so at least four are needed in the addendum. However consensus has changed several times as to whether her month of birth is properly validated.

Essentially the case would not be accepted now due to a lack of proper documentation, the GRG (I believe) no longer list the case themselves and Robert Young has described her as a `junk case` - enough for it to be disputed with a fifth name in the addendum.

However her case is historically important as she was believed to be the oldest person ever recorded from 1958 until she was surpassed by Shigechiyo Izumi in 1979/ 80. It's worth noting that her Wikipedia article is woefully inaccurate, claiming she was surpassed as oldest person ever by Jeanne Calment - even if the disputed cases inbetween (Izumi, White) are discounted Ann Eliza Williams was the one who superseded her.

That's not quite right. This case wasn't added to GWR lists until the 1980s, when it was transferred from the footnotes to the main section.

The reality is that this is a case that should not be included in the Wikipedia Top 100 list at all.

I see, that meant her age was exaggerated by at least 8 years ?!

Why shocked?

Some cases are exaggerated by more than 10 years...

I imagined that she was like Kamato Hongo, who was at least 110 at death...

Kamato Hongo was at least 107-108 at the time of her death, not 110. Of course, she could have been age 110-112 at the time of her death, but she could have also been 107-109.