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| Futurist |
Posted: Apr 17 2012, 09:28 PM
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Methuselah Group: Trusted Members Posts: 8,112 Member No.: 1,176 Joined: 6-September 11 |
John/Jack/Jan/Joan/Giovanni:14
James:6 Antonio/Anthony:5 Henry/Henri/Harry:5 Joseph/Josep/Giuseppe:5 Fred/Frederick/Friedrich:4 George:4 Walter:4 Charles/Charlie:3 Frank/Francisco:3 Andrew/Anders/Andrei:2 Arthur:2 Gregory/Gregorio:2 Herman/Hermann:2 Louis:2 Other first names:1 63/145=43% of the total number of verified male SCs have one of just 15 first names. 47/145=32% have one of just 8 given names. 35/145=24% have one of just 5 given names. 20/145=14% are called either John or James (or some variant of those names). 14/145=10% are called John or some variant of that name. Let's do last names now: Harris:2 Tanabe:2 Other last names:1 Basically, only three (or four) pairs of two SCs each have the same last name. All the other ones have different last names. This post has been edited by Futurist on Jul 11 2012, 10:44 PM |
| gijs412 |
Posted: Apr 18 2012, 06:05 AM
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Jeanne Calment Group: Trusted Members Posts: 1,217 Member No.: 1,046 Joined: 4-November 10 |
Jack doesn't really belong in the group Jan/John/Giovanni.
It belongs in de group Jack/Jacques/Sjaak. |
| Futurist |
Posted: Apr 18 2012, 12:22 PM
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Jack is a nickname for John. For instance, Jack Lockett's (1891-2002) real first name was John. |
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| Matt G |
Posted: Apr 18 2012, 12:35 PM
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Matt Group: Trusted Members Posts: 1,183 Member No.: 1,116 Joined: 23-April 11 |
I will support that, My friend has a relative who's name was Jack. Yet his real birth name was John |
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| gijs412 |
Posted: Apr 18 2012, 12:51 PM
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Jeanne Calment Group: Trusted Members Posts: 1,217 Member No.: 1,046 Joined: 4-November 10 |
But the name itself belongs to that other group. I have searched it up, and you are right. But I am too. In the English language it comes from the name John. But in many other languages like French it comes from Jacques. In the Netherlands the name Jack isn't common. But here we have Sjaak wich comes from either Jacobus or Jacques. And Sjaak is like the Dutch variant of Jack. But and Jan is the like John in English, but it comes from Johannes. |
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| blaz1 |
Posted: Apr 18 2012, 02:39 PM
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Supercentenarian Group: Trusted Members Posts: 249 Member No.: 1,213 Joined: 20-November 11 |
Demetrius Philipovitch is a "Guiness case" before WWII and I think it has to be re-investigated.
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| Futurist |
Posted: Apr 18 2012, 03:56 PM
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You're right about that, but while he's still verified, I'm going to keep him on my list(s). |
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| Futurist |
Posted: Jul 7 2012, 01:06 AM
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Methuselah Group: Trusted Members Posts: 8,112 Member No.: 1,176 Joined: 6-September 11 |
I fixed my list as I found out that Joan is also a variant of John.
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| clark kent |
Posted: Jul 9 2012, 01:38 AM
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Methuselah Group: Trusted Members Posts: 5,600 Member No.: 16 Joined: 22-October 07 |
and Tanabe would be the most popular SC male surname early next year
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| Futurist |
Posted: Jul 9 2012, 02:24 AM
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Hopefully |
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| Donovan |
Posted: Jul 9 2012, 07:52 AM
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Donovan Group: Trusted Members Posts: 2,179 Member No.: 1,172 Joined: 27-August 11 |
Hope Chiyokazu Tanabe reached 110. We may also have Igarashi, with Kiyoshi Igarashi and Jokichi Igarashi (if living). |
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| toanglobal |
Posted: Jul 11 2012, 07:43 AM
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When Demetrius Philipovitch died, even Guiness book hadn't existed |
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| Futurist |
Posted: Jul 11 2012, 12:42 PM
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You mean "reaches 110", as Tanabe was born in January 1903 and it's not 2013 yet. |
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| blaz1 |
Posted: Jul 11 2012, 06:34 PM
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With the "Guiness case" I thought just the fact that I had seen Mr. Philipovitch on the list of "oldest people ever" in one of the printed editions of Guiness Book of Records. I wrote In many posts on this forum that the case of Mr. Philipovitch has to be re-re-investigated (like some other cases before WWII, such as Delina Filkins). I have often asked the question, if anyone knows more about this case but got no replies. I think that until Mr. Philipovitch would be confirmed again (with the original documents!) as a real supercentenarian, this case should not be listed on a "List of verified supercentenarians". I have written many reasons for that opinion in some posts here (so I am not going to write them again in this post). |
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| Futurist |
Posted: Jul 11 2012, 10:43 PM
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I totally agree with you, Blaz. I think that the Phillipovitch and Dzugayev cases should be removed from the GRG lists until they are proven using modern standards (if this ever actually happens). |
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