I would have to say. Sarah Knauss, Walter Kreuning, Venere Pizzinato-Papo, Yone Minagawa, chiyono hasegawa only for a couple months, Leila Denmark, Joan Riudavets, Kama Chinen, Hendrikje van Andel-Schipper, Susie Gibson, Edna Parker, Bettie Wilson, Elizabeth Bolden, Gertrude Baines, and Maria Capovilla

This is the wrong place for this thread.

1. Knauss--No.
2. Breuning--No.
3. Pizzinato--No.
4. Minagawa--No.
5. Hasegawa--No.
6. Denmark--No.
7. Riudavets--Yes.
8. Chinen--No.
9. Van Andel--Yes, if her cancer was caught and treated in time.
10. Gibson--No.
11. Parker--Maybe.
12. Wilson--No.
13. Bolden--No.
14. Baines--No.
15. Capovilla--Maybe.

Joan Ruidavets

Breuning I think yes if he isn't suffered by colon cancer, Kimuar is very lucky because he became oldest living man only five days before his 114th birthdays

Futurist,

I thought you once said you expected Chiyono Hasegawa to last about 100 more days than she did?

I think it's interesting that the malignant tumour that killed Andel-Schipper would have killed a far younger person as well.

And toanglobal, I don't think Breuning died from colon cancer; though he developed it, it was back in 1960 and was successfully treated. The illness he had when he died was never specified in accordance with Breuning's wishes.

As I said in another thread, I think if Van Andel-Schipper had been told of her cancer during her final years, I think it would probably have hastened her death. In East Asian cultures, people who are diagnosed with cancer and/or other serious medical conditions are usually not told directly of their diagnosis, for fear that this would lead to discouragement, shock, and/or depression and thus hasten the individual's death. Instead, what usually happens is that close friends and/or family members are told first, and they help the patient realize (indirectly) what his/her diagnosis is and take appropriate steps to treat the illness.

I would also add Fred Hale to this list. On November 18, 2004, he had just been discharged from a hospital back to his home after being treated for pneumonia, and passed away in his sleep early next morning. Perhaps if he had been a bit more cautious, he could have made it to his 114th birthday on December 1, 2004.

This seems more like a list of people you wished would have lived longer.

I think a real assessment of who likely could have lived longer should be based on:

1. a premature cause of death (something that is potentially avoidable, given better circumstantial luck)
2. the person's upside potential

Grace Thaxton's death age age 114 years 18 days from a UTI is an example of a "premature cause of death"...had she not gotten it, she probably could have reached 115.

Another one is Consuelo Moreno-Lopez...she died from an adverse reaction to a flu shot.

Viva McComb died from a fall. In fact, many supercentenarians died from a fall or two...Arno Wagner fell twice. Margaret Skeete, Maria Gomes Valentim, Edna Parker all fell 4-6 weeks before their death.

There's also the issue of choosing not to live longer, as with Geneva McNicholl and Maria Diaz.

Yes, I said that about Chiyono but I underestimated how weak she was.

How could Mr Hale have been more cautious ?

Stay in the hospital for 2 more weeks?

There's no resin to suppose that staying in hospital is a cautious thing to do.
Being in hospital is risky.
I suspect he was discharged home because they knew he would not make it and it was kinder to jet him pass away at home.

Well, according to the obituary published in the Post-Standard (the local newspaper in the region where he lived), Hale was discharged at a time when his condition appeared to have improved. Hence, that is why I think he should have taken a more conservative approach.

Would it be okay to tell us why Geneva McNicholl committed suicide?

I think the word "self-euthanasia" (refusing to eat) is more accurate than "committing sucicide".

I am still surprised that Mrs Diaz died from "self-euthanasia" as it is forbidden in France.

The word "suicide" comes from the Latin expression "sui caedere", which means to "to kill oneself". One willingly ends his/her own life regardless of whether he/she starves to death or shoots himself/herself, so the outcome is the same.

Anyway, would it be okay to tell us why Geneva McNicholl self-euthanized, or are there (still) privacy reasons not to tell us?

Maybe the hospital allowed her not to eat since they didn't think that she would die as quickly as she actually did?

Sarah Knauss died "quietly in her room". There was no obvious cause of death, such as falling, to speculate that she could have lived longer.

Dr. Denmark spent the last 3 years of her life confined to bed, and was not seen in public in her last year. I think she went as far as she could possibly go. Dr. Denmark had 24-hour a day, 7-day a week live-in care.


Walter could possibly have lived longer...I've heard it through the grapevine that he may have been given an incorrect dosage of blood thinner (this did not come from any reporting to the GRG but from third-party sources), which contributed to his demise. However, one must also remember that he likely already had a condition that caused the need for a treatment in the first place. So, he likely could have lived longer, but it may have been only a few extra days or weeks...that's not the type of "live longer" I think most people are thinking of.

Which conditions require blood thinner? Pneumonia? I'm not asking for Walter's condition, only for the possible conditions that require it.

Also, living several weeks more would have (possibly) allowed Breuning to surpass Beard's claimed age, live to see the killing of Osama Bin Laden by U.S. Navy Seals, and allow Kimura to become the first man to get the WOM title at age 114.

[live to see the killing of Osama Bin Laden by U.S. Navy Seals]

I dont think Walter Breuning would have wanted to see the killing of Osama Bin Laden. He was a very peaceful man and saw the good in everything and in everyone

I doubt Walter was a Osama Bin Laden-fan..

I doubt any SC was a fan of Osama Bin Laden...

You can 'get' the title of this topic of many ways.

Of course, every SC (and every person) could have lived longer. Every SC could have held on one more day, but (s)he didn't.

But if we see this by other point of view, no SC could have lived longer, simply because (s)he died on that day. How do we know that (s)he could have lived one more day? We can't be sure of that.

Hence Pieter's and my point. Considering the Bin Laden caused the deaths of thousands of innocent people (in 9/11, the 1998 embassy bombings, etc.), I think Walter would have supported his killing had he lived to see it.

I'm not sure that a SC who dies of amyloidosis would have been able to last even one more day with our current medical technology.

Therefore SCs like George Johnson (1894-2006, lived 112y,121d) and Gertrude Baines (1894-2009, lived 115y,158d) lived to their maximum potential with our current technology.