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     Languages: Tayledras & Shin'a'in, Cheat Sheets
    Stephamarie
    Posted: Nov 9 2007, 02:55 PM


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    This was the best collection of information on these languages. List thanks to the Swords of Haven board though it is currently inactive.

    As this has come up enough already and will probably continue to do so to make it easier to show different languages in the same post I've created color guides to code each language.
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    Valdemaran - Normal

    Aurinalean (Eastern Empire) - Lightgreen

    Haighlei (Black Kings) - Skyblue

    Hardornen - Royalblue

    Iftellian - Plum

    Jkathan - Tomato

    Karsite - Orange

    North Tribes Tongue - Green

    Rethwellian - Silver

    Romani - Sienna

    Ruvian - Firebrick

    Shin'a'in - Sandybrown

    Tayledras - Teal

    Trade Tongue - White
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    Stephamarie
    Posted: Nov 9 2007, 02:58 PM


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    Tayledras

    Notes about the Tayledras language
    Male nouns and pronouns have a suffix of 'el, and female, 'aen.
    The apostrophe, ', is used often. It is used in Tayledras as a slight pause in speech.

    Common Phrases
    *Fi'zhai = Warm winds (greeting)
    *Ge'teva = on the order of 'zowie' or 'dude'! (exclamation)
    *Hai'yasha = on the order of 'my goodness!' (exclamation)
    *Keren'sel = Bright be the Day (literally, "bright the day") (Greeting)
    *k'ren'fa = affectionate nickname; translates roughly to Bright Eyes
    *Milas = You're welcome
    *Shethka = literally, excrement (exclamation)
    *Tokast = Thank You
    *Zhai'helleva = Wind to thy Wings (farewell)

    Adjectives
    *cres'tachen = available(usually for hotsprings)
    *shay'a'chern = literally, "one whose lover is like self"; gender-wise.
    *shay'kreth'ashke = lifebonded partner
    *v'shenya = occupied(usually for hotsprings)

    Pronouns
    *gh'aen = she
    *gh'el = he
    *gh'rae = you
    *gh'tan = I
    *gh'sho = they
    *gh'shan = we

    Nouns
    *alen'fe = feather offered to a potential mate
    *alshoa = soul
    *alsh'sh'aen = soul-sister
    *alsh'sh'el = soul-brother
    *alsh'sha = soul-sibling
    *ashke = beloved
    *bern = right
    *bren'an = the rope ladder used on ekeles.
    *eshlen = to take the tree-path.
    *ekele = The physical home of a Tayledras. Ekeles are built up in the trees, around the trunk, at varying levels from the ground. Access to the structures in by rope ladders, which can be drawn up to prevent others from entering while the owner is away.
    *fi'orlys = fire
    *farn = left
    *hen = urge (to have a)
    *hellev = wings
    *inzari = hated foe
    *k'aen = woman
    *ka'erste = the area around the Heartstone shielded for working.
    *k'el = man
    *ke'leeka = one's own child
    *ke'leeka'aen = one's daughter
    *ke'leeka'el = one's son
    *ke'leeka'alen = one's own bondbird, but only while young
    *kreth'alen'fe = feather offered to a lifebonded mate
    *Laj'ele'ruvon = a knowledge-seeker
    *Lasha'kaladra = Companion (as in a Herald's Companion)
    *laerth = darkness
    *leeka = child
    *leeka'aen = female child
    *leeka'alen = young bondbird
    *leeka'el = male child
    *leshy'a = spirit
    *loshra = friend
    *na'aen = mother
    *na'el = father
    *sa'alen = that moment where the bondbird and Tayledras bonds.
    *sel = day
    *shayana = wingsib
    *sh'aen = sister
    *shef'a = here
    *sh'el = brother
    *raka = tree
    *v'fi = large or bonfire
    *v'raka = BIG tree
    *v'raka'kele = tree which holds an ekele
    *v'raka'kele'shren = to climb an ekele tree (to go home)
    *Vale = The area inside which the clan lives, surrounded by a magical barrier or "curtain". The seasons and landscape inside are magically altered to suit the needs and desires of the clan, including features such as large open areas for clan gatherings, as well as smaller, more secluded areas, sometimes with bathing pools, where the clan may relax, either in groups or alone, as it pleases them. Each Vale has a Heartstone at its center, which it was constructed around.
    *voorthayshen = Clan Keep; gathering or central place
    *waten = result, end product, solution
    *zhai = winds
      Improvised by altering Shin'a'in
      *Rahn = How
    Prepositions
    *en = the
    *vran = about

    Verbs
    *ceten'a = to encounter
    *ceten'alsh = roughly love at first sight (literally, to encounter your soul.)
    *eshlen'a = to take the tree-path. To walk above the forest floor, in the canopy, using a specialized tools.
    *eskal'a = to run a scout circuit
    *fi'lys'a = to fire(a weapon, a bow or such)
    *hentach'a = to sit
    *j'larg'a = to walk
    *kes'a = to stop
    *ken'a = to give
    *ken'fe'a = to give a feather
    *ken'alen'fe'a = to give a bondbird's feather
    *keren = bright
    *ktren'a = to make
    *lfaen'a = to join
    *lenor'a = to do
    *menas'a = to eat
    *nekot'a = to fix
    *nekot'fe'a = to imp in or fix a broken feather
    *oefl'a = to sleep
    *pren'a = to mate
    *sa'a = to work magic
    *safaen'a = to work a healing magic
    *sashon'a = to work a defensive magic
    *sakaten'a = to work an offensive magic
    *s'enend' = to feel sorrow for a loved one
    *senk'a = to play
    *shal'a = to go
    *shren = to climb or ascend
    *tuv'a = to run
    *untar'a = to have
      Improvised by altering Shin'a'in
      *seh'a = to be
    Example conjugation -
    eshlen'a
    I - eshlenya
    He, She, It - eshlen'yas
    You - eshlen'yavak
    They - eshlen'ta
    We - eshlenyav

    Prefixes
    *alsh' = suffix relating to souls
    *fi' = relating to heat
    *k' = individual being
    *k'(+capitalized clan name) = from the Vale/Clan of (clan)
    *ka' = heartstone
    *ke' = individual being, very familiar
    *na' = parent
    *sa' = magic
    *sh' = sibling
    *shay' = self
    *v' = big, tall, or full

    Suffixes
    *'aen = female
    *'alen = relating to bondbirds
    *'chern = lover
    *'chara = student
    *'el = male
    *'erste = relating to shields
    *'fe = relating to feathers
    *'kele = pertaining to an ekele
    *'kreth = life-long (lasting a lifetime)
    *'shenya = pertaining to the hotsprings commonly around a Vale.
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    Stephamarie
    Posted: Nov 9 2007, 03:24 PM


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    Shin'a'in

    *corthu = one being
    *dester'edre = wind(born) sibling
    *dhon = very good
    *du'dera = (I) give (you) comfort
    *for'shava = very, very good
    *get'ke = (could you) explain
    *gestena = thank you
    *hai = yes
    *hai shala = do you understand
    *hai'she'li = surprised yes, literally "yes I swear!"
    *hai'vetha = yes (be) running
    *her'y = (is this not) the truth
    *isda = have you (ever) seen (such)
    *jel'enedra = little sister
    *jel'sutho'edrin = forever younger siblings (usually refers to horses)
    *jostumal = enemy
    *kadessa = rodent of Dhorisha Plains
    *Kal'enedral = Her Sword-brothers or Her Sword-children (of the Kal'enel)
    *Kal'enel = Warrior aspect of the Goddess
    *kathal = go gently
    *kele = (go) onward
    *kestra = a casual friend
    *krethes = speculation
    *kulath = go find
    *leshya'e = helpful spirit
    *Liha'irden = deer-footed (one of the Shin'a'in tribes)
    *li'ha'eer = exclamation "by the gods!"
    *li'sa'eer = exclamation of extreme surprise "by the highest gods!"
    *nes = bad
    *nos = it is
    *pretera = grasscat
    *sadullos = safer
    *se = is/are
    *she'chorne = homosexual
    *she'enedra = sister by blood oathing
    *sheka = horse droppings
    *shena = of the Clan
    *shesti = nonsense
    *Shin'a'in = the people of the plains
    *so'trekoth = fool who will believe anything
    *staven = water
    *Tale'dras = Hawkbrothers (the Tayledras)
    *Tale'sedrin = children of the hawk (one of the Shin'a'in tribes)
    *te'sorthene = heart-friend or soul-friend
    *vai'datha = expression of resignation or agreement
    *var'athanda = to be forgetful of
    *ves'tacha = beloved one
    *vysaka = bond between Kal'enel and Kal'enedral
    *vyusher = wolf
    *yuthi'so'coro = road courtesy
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    Brilana
    Posted: Nov 10 2007, 10:50 AM


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    I found some more words for the lists. I'll add them here for you to edit into the lists above if you like. Also I'd like to post a link to this thread in HoV for our use in that group too if that's ok.

    Shin'a'in

    Ae = I
    Datri = Have, Has
    dhorisha = sacrifice
    Dhorisha Plains = Grasslands in the bottom of a crater, home to the Shin'a'in
    Dhorisha Shin'a = the Plains of Sacrifice
    Enar = Bright
    For'a'hier = Firefalcon
    For'a'hier'sedrin = Firefalcon Clan
    Kai'dral = Book
    Kata'shin'a'in = The city on the edge of the Dhorisha Plains (I think it's literal translation must be City/Town of the People of the Plains)
    Laj'ele'ruvon = Knowledge seeker
    La'thel = Boring
    leshy'a-Kal'enedral = spirit-Kal'enedral (spirits of those who once lived as Swordsworn and continue to serve even after death as teachers to the living Kal'enedral)
    Lhev = But
    N'ae = I am
    Nes'ral = Awful
    No = It
    Pretera'sedrin = Children of the Grasscats (a clan)
    Rhan = How
    Sa = A, an
    Sai = Day
    Sed'va = Has been
    Sha'van = Happy
    She'enedran = Blood Brother/Sister (gender nuetral)
    shin = plains
    Tas = And / With
    Ta'ven = Also
    Veiled Ones = a nickname for the leshy'a-Kal'enedral who always appear in black with black veils covering thier faces
    Ven = And
    Vha = Can, could
    Vuysher'edras = Brothers of the Wolf (a clan)
    Yai = Two
    Zha'hai'allav'a = Wind beneath thy wings

    and for some fun a couple Kaled'a'in

    Ashkeyana = Beloved
    k'Leysha = The Lost clan
    Kechara = Beloved, Darling
    Kla'heshey'messerin = Pledged (to a Clan)

    The 'new' words are thanks to a site called Thinkquest and the Velgarth languages are at this link http://library.thinkquest.org/28010/HOVlang.htm

    Also some information pulled from wikipedia. I will continue to edit and add to this list until I see that it's been edited in (if it is), after that I'll make a seperate post so that editing in further will be easier.

    Will continue to look to see if I can find more, cause I know someone there are at least the names of the other Shin'a'in clans :)
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    Brilana
    Posted: Nov 10 2007, 11:08 AM


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    Oh and according to Wikipedia, Kal'enel actually means Sword of the Stars, or The Star-Eyed it's not specific to the Warrior aspect, rather it's the goddess name overall. I'm not sure that the differing aspects have their own name versions...

    And there is a god too... I'll see if I can find his name even though he's rarely mentioned. Just like Karse has a female counterpart to V'kandis, or however that's spelled....

    I got the impression from the books that it's the same god and goddess in all of the religions (as in there is in reality only one of each for the whole world of Velgarth) they just have varying names and the differing countries focus on one more than another, or ignore them entirely in some cases (like the Empire).
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