Title: DarthCarnefex / Sabith
Description: Apprentice log
DarthCarnefex - December 4, 2007 02:58 PM (GMT)
**** Promoted 2/13/08 ****
So I'm going to, when ever possible log what we have done so far, and give new stuff too.
So Sabith here is one we haven't done yet:
1. Why do you chose to be a Sith?
The cool black capes and the cookies are my reason, so you will just have to think of something else. :evilaugh:
Darth_Sabith - December 4, 2007 10:28 PM (GMT)
A sith isn't afraid to hold back and on top of that they command fear. Though the darkside they gain strenth quicker then there counter parts and there knowleadge in the force rivals that of the jedi. On top of that they are allowed to be married, have emotions and just over all are cool.
They held wealth that the old republic could only dream about and they alone understood what power was.
DarthCarnefex - December 5, 2007 02:23 PM (GMT)
Like the wealth angle. That why I enjoy working with you, you always have an angle I hadn't seen.
2. Sith and Jedi Code Describe each and compare the differences.
Now we covered the sith code, very well, but we didn't mess with the jedi. So have at it.
Darth_Sabith - December 5, 2007 11:38 PM (GMT)
-The Code of the Sith
Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
(If a true state of peace existed one would die for one would never feel the need for anything and a being would never move bring only death to all who uptained it. As Sith we do not deny our passion for all being feel Love, anger, hate, sadness, fear, ect...it's what you do with those emotions that matter and as a sith we turn our passion into something that will make us stronger. In passion one learns to love, hate, and the meaning of betrayal. Without passion a being is just as good as dead or might as well be a droid.)
Through passion, I gain strength.
(With our love we learn to sacrifice those things that would with hold us and we learn the lessons of betrayal. In anger we can manipulate our wrath to physically become stronger, Our fear we turn on those who oppose us, All passion leads to a new strength.)
Through strength, I gain power.
(As our strength grows we learn new ways in the force, and learn to the arts of manipulation and gain followers that will do what as we command. Be it by force or though Manipulation)
Through power, I gain victory.
(With our "followers" we learn to take that which we desire be it worlds, wealth, or apsolute rule. As A sith we must first seek Perfection with in ourselves and once we have uptained that victory we will seek to cleans those around us.)
Through victory, my chains are broken.
(The first chain that we brake are those that others refuse to break...our morals, the second chain it that of our Masters. With each Victory we brake another chain that held us back from perfection. Yet with each chain that brakes we are bound closer to the force itself.
The Force shall free me.
(In the force we become the masters of all things and by being a master we control all that the force touches even our own dystany.)
There is no emotion; there is peace.
(The jedi seek to with hold there emotions afried of the true path it will lead them on. Teaching others to seek the absence of emotions and in doing so they teach one the true meaning of a living death.)
In passion one learns to love, hate, and the meaning of betrayal. Without passion a being is just as good as dead or might as well be a droid.)
There is no ignorance; there is knowledge.
(The jedi are fools for if there was no ignorance then the jedi would all be sith. Yet they are correct in the fact there is knoweadge. Though this teaching is flawed it holds merit because knowledge will lead on to power.)
There is no passion; there is serenity.
(This line is only a reenforcement of the jedi's first code. Once again they try to install a living death to those that would use there passion to become stronger.)
There is no chaos; there is harmony.
(Harmony is something the jedi seek but if chaos did not exist one would never know what order is. All things work together this teaching I believe the jedi are correct in. For in complete Chaos will come total order.)
There is no death; there is the Force
(If there was no such thing as death then life would have little meaning. Yet death can be cheated if one can control that which brings forth life.)
DarthCarnefex - December 6, 2007 05:58 PM (GMT)
Very nice. we covered 3. so...
4. Name three Sith ruled worlds Give brief description of each world and the events that happened.
you have displayed good knowledge of this in verious forums but we havent formaly covered it.
Darth_Sabith - December 6, 2007 09:26 PM (GMT)
Ziost ancient Capital world of the Sith and was where the SIth Council ruled from. It is an Icy forested world that was been forgotten by most of the galaxy. This world has also held many Sith artifacts including a sith ship recently found by Ben Skywalker
Lehon- A world of a vast ocean with mulitiple islands. On one island is an ancient Temple which at one time concealled the holocron of Darth Revan. This Holocron was found by Darth Bane who used it's teaching's to establish the famous rule of two. The world is home to danagers best like the Rancor and has dense forest.
Korriban- The second Capital to the ancient sith. THis barren world has given rise to many dark lords to include Exar Kun and on top of that it seems to act as a dark becaon to all sith. The valley of the sith lords is located here as well as Tulak Hords Tomb.
Thule- Ancient Sith world that houses at lest one known sith temple and was the priormarly use as the sith's ship yard during the golden age of the sith. This world is many swamps and has Electrical Storms that are both awe inspring and fearful.
Malicore 5- This dark world is believed to have been destroyed long ago but fragments of the world my still be around. At one time it was a vast forested world that may have been a home world to the mandalorians. During it's ancient days there was a sith acadamy that Darth Revan reactivated and used in the corrupting of sith.
Here are only 5 out of the hundred known sith worlds.... :forcethrow:
DarthCarnefex - December 7, 2007 09:52 PM (GMT)
I know we have discused this in forum, and ur busy with the tourny, so no rush.
5. Sith Rule Structure Name them and describe strengths and weaknesses of each.
Darth_Sabith - December 7, 2007 10:45 PM (GMT)
Ancient Sith Empire
This order held a Dark Lord of the Sith, A sith Council, Sith Lords, Apprentices, ect...
The greatest strength of this order was it acted with the entire wish of the Dark Lord and was open to opion. It had vast wealth, and power that was greatly feared.
It's Greatest Weakness was the fact that it like all sith orders fall into two diffenrent sides. As with all great empires the stupidy of it's leader will bring about it's entire destruction.
Darth Revan's Order
A balance between the order of Two and the ancient sith this order held a Single Dark Lord with a heir to the sith mantle. All below him where Sith Lords, Assassians, Maruders, ect...Only the strongest where taken as apprentice of the Dark Lord as Hier to the Sith Thrown. It's weakness once agian was betrayal with in our own ranks for once an apprentice felt ready he attacked, regardless if he was stronger or not. Though It's greatest strenth was it's vast numbers and It's powerfull Force users as it weeded out the weak from with in.
Rule of 3 ( )
This Rule was very creative and could have worked if not for the constint betrayal of our ranks. For our numbers only one Sith Should hold the title of Dark Lord. This order allowed 3 to exist at once with a strange order of one Master and Two apprentice. This order eventually consumed itself.
Lead by a powerful Sith Lord who took multiple apprentices....unforently he took to many and had no true order to his followers. It was basicly Darth Ruin Dark Lord of the Sith and every Sith his Hier. It was doomed the moment he taught so many with out naming a heir.
Brotherhood of Darkness
This order was by far the worst Order to have existed for it made all Sith Lords Dark Lord of the Sith and removed the Title of Darth from it's order. It closely resembled the jedi order as it held many posistions. Though it's numbers was great it allowed any force sensitive into the order. The Order was Lead By Lord Kaan and the Council of Sith Lords, Under the council was Apprentices, Assiassins, Mauraders, and Minons. This order even allowed Non-force sensitive into it's ranks but only as Minons....which wasn't a bad idea but the fact they gave the title of Dark Lord to all sith is repulsive.
Rule of Two
This order allowed only two sith to exist at a single time and both would have the title DARK LORD of THE SITH. Yet in truth there was only one Master and an Apprentice. There could be unlimited Darkside pawns though but only two Sith Lords. This orders greatest weakness was also it greatest strength...it limited itself to only 2 sith. Thus the Apprentice would have to over throw his master to truely be identified as the Sith Master. If both Master and Apprentice was destroyed the sith order entirely would be wiped out. As a strength with there numbers so little a Sith Master would have to choose very wisely in who would be deemed worthy of the title of Sith Lord and on top of that they need to be very cunning/Wise.
Rule of One
Lead by Darth Kryat this order has only One Dark Lord of the Sith who himself represent the sith order. His most loyal servents are considered Sith Hands. Though Sith Lords do exist they all obey a single Dark Lord...Kryat. This orders greatest weakness is the fact he has yet to have a heir to his rule which could/will bring about another Sith War. Although It's greatest strength comes from it's vast numbers and total Loyalty to there master. On top of that they have retained there ablity to hide themselves.
DarthCarnefex - December 10, 2007 05:50 PM (GMT)
Good luck with the tourny. Intresting choice of weapon. I like keeping them on their toes with the unexpected. Anything I can do to help you run them over, let me know.
Very nice. Personaly however I don't think the differences between the Brotherhood and Rule of One are that pronounced. The Brotherhood was trucking along at a good pace till Kaan went goofy and then Bane destroyed it. Despite tecnicalities Kaan was in charge. Should Bane have taken his military command experience and applied that to leading the Brotherhood, I think peoples perseption would be very different. One of the things I think Kaan deserves more credit for is doing what Sidious did durring the clone wars: use war to make jedi for get what it means to be jedi. That is were the true victory lay. Tear them out of their ivory tower and currupt their teachings.
6. The Darkside Compendium Who wrote it? What does it consists of? Give a description of each one.
Darth_Sabith - December 10, 2007 08:27 PM (GMT)
The Darkside Compendium Written by Palpatine it contained 3 Books but was orignally suppose to be over a hundred volumes long.
The Book of Anger
This book was written as the begining of who one was to follow the dark side to include how one exercised there own will over the force itself. Lord Palpatine even states that one can learn to harnessed the force through emotion. He stated out of all emothion it is anger that gives the greatest control over the Force. The Book of Anger also teaches one ways to harnessing and control one's own anger.
The Weakness of Inferiors
This is the second book of the Compendium and teaches one who to control others without violence over those who are inferior. This book had four parts that outlined the way to go about manipulation of the weak and includes why one is weak.
The Creation of Monsters (Uncompleted)
This book is by far one of the most instrusting for it teaches the deadly and creative art of Sith Alchemy. Yet if did give a warning not to create a completly superior beast for if it turned against you then you will have brought about your own death. This book may hold the secrets of creating the deadly Sith Levithian and other Sith Spawn.
DarthCarnefex - December 12, 2007 09:41 PM (GMT)
what was his reason for constructing The Darkside Compendium , and do you agree with his thinking.
then: 7. Explain the differences between Dark Jedi and Sith.
Darth_Sabith - December 13, 2007 03:35 PM (GMT)
Palpatine created the Darkside Compendium for multiple reasons is first reason was a guide that could be used to corrupt other force users and teach them the ways of the darkside. This has worked well many times.
The second reason is it is his legacy that will endure long after him. (Unless he uptained immortality...which he didn't)
and the 3rd reason he created it was to document and show just how knowleadgable he was. An sith or darksider would be awed by his dark knowleadge.
Currenlty other reasons excape me but there many have been more
7. Explain the differences between Dark Jedi and Sith.
A Dark Jedi still follows the jedi code but twist it and manipulates it to mean what they feel it should mean...some Dark Jedi follow apsolutely no code at all.
The sith unlike the Dark Jedi follow there own code and stick with there code. In order to become a sith one must learn the ways of the sith themselves. Once they have learned the ways of the sith they must remain with it. Not to mention most Dark Jedi do not like the sith but end up being used as pawns of ours. They do not know the true meaning of the rule of the strong and have lost to the darkness. Where as the sith control the darkness itself.
DarthCarnefex - December 15, 2007 05:54 PM (GMT)
What do you think of Sidious' belief that he could never die?
True enough. "They do not know the true meaning of the rule of the strong and have lost to the darkness. Where as the sith control the darkness itself." Good work on that especialy. The Dark Jedi are mearly jedi who use the darkside. The Sith have tools and abilities that go beyond the Jedi. We are not meer "jedi gone bad" , are MORE. What are some things that set us apart from the fallen, other than the code?
I want you and Rex to have a sparring session. I think you can find the place.
Darth_Sabith - December 17, 2007 02:53 PM (GMT)
What do you think of Sidious' belief that he could never die?
He was a fool to think such a thing for all things die but though the force we can remain in the world...to seek immortality was not foolish but precautions must be maintained. Even if one gains immortality they can still be destroyed or worst crippled striped of the force.
True enough. "They do not know the true meaning of the rule of the strong and have lost to the darkness. Where as the sith control the darkness itself." Good work on that especialy. The Dark Jedi are mearly jedi who use the darkside. The Sith have tools and abilities that go beyond the Jedi. We are not meer "jedi gone bad" we, are MORE. What are some things that set us apart from the fallen, other than the code?
First off the sith have a vast culture that have span for many centries, unlike the dark jedi we have embraced the darkside where as most Dark Jedi don't see themselves embracing there darkside. A dark Jedi knows not how to control his emotion where we have learned to do just that.
In the force we have ways that the dark jedi have never been able to preform for we can create dark minons. We are even taught to create our own Lightsaber crystal by pouring our hate into the force itself.
A dark jedi does not understand the true nature of the darkside and due to this they can never manage some feats as a sith would. The art of the force storm is but one of these things. Also a dark jedi doesn't come close to the power of a trained sith lord.
DarthCarnefex - December 17, 2007 06:52 PM (GMT)
Like the festive color text! lol!
Good. There is no gaurenty of comming back, but passing on, thats a certainty. Also I feel it was a fundemental breach from the Rule of Two. He weakend the sith exponentialy. So much knowledge and power was lost do to his hoarding of knowledge, thinking he would live for ever. He was at one point the ultimate expretion of Banes vision, but nearly caused the downfall of the sith.
Good. the Sith have a culture, a history, skills and abilities that go beyond that of the mear jedi, dark or other wise. The magics and alcomy alone set the sith apart.
8. Name three wars involving the Sith. Give a brief description of each.
Darth_Sabith - December 17, 2007 09:16 PM (GMT)
Hyperspace War: The first true Sith war in which our kind was slaughtered but just bairly. It was lead by Naga Shadow after he took the title Dark Lord of the sith. In truth we should have never lost our tech and power was vastly greater then that of the republics.
The first Sith War: Was lead by Exar Kun a fallen jedi who was granted the title Dark Lord of the sith by the ancient spirits of mulitiple sith lords. This war was also won by the Republic with it's jedi but only because of a betrayer. Exar Kun would have the last laugh though for he learned the true secret of immortality.
The Jedi Civil war/ Second Sith war- Was lead by Darth Revan and his apprentice Darth Malak. With Revan in control the republic nearly lost but it's structure remained. Things changed when Revan's not yet ready apprentice decieded to take things into his own hands betraying his master and allowing the jedi to leave with Revan's body. The fool brought about his own defeat for the jedi managed to cleans Revan's great mind and manipulate him to do there will.
DarthCarnefex - December 29, 2007 07:06 PM (GMT)
but how did we lose the hyperspace war?
Darth_Sabith - January 2, 2008 03:08 PM (GMT)
The republic had forced Lord Naga Sadow to flee back to the Sith Empire. Unforently the betrayer Ludo Kressh had set up an ambush against the dark lord.
This ambush caused the ancient sith order to fight against each other, a foolish thing to do when you are already in a war. The republic shortly arrived and destroyed what remained of the remaining fleets.
Though Lord Sadow decieded to take things into his own hands sacrificing what remained of his fleet so that he could surrive. His sacrifice destroyed not only his fleet but many of his pursuers as well. Using sith sorcery Lord Sadow managed to escape alive aboard his damaged flagship.