NEW CLASS...QUICK STREET, trial deal for us

ok guys, i have talked to ronnie and he is gonna let us do 3 trial races to see if it will take off. the entry will paid at the gate and it is gonna be $50. ronnie said that if the crowd is good he will try to match it and we will split it up from there. the dates haven't been set yet, we have to wait and see what all the others set so we aren't on top of them. these rules can be adjusted but for the most part they are in stone. we aren't trying to single out nobody and we aren't bending the rules to make any one person happy. it is what it is. i know of 6 to 9 cars that fit these so far. hopefully they will come out and race with us. thanks and let's get them ready.



QUICK STREET RULES:

GENERAL-

-must have 2 front seats

-carpet of some kind

-dash(as close to stcok as possible)

-lexan ok (must look stock 15' away)

-door panels(aluminum ok)

-mufflers required(3" exit)

-10 point cage min.

-must have working tail lights

-driveshaft loop required

-axle retainers recommened

-window net

-fire pants & jacket

-approved helment

-rear mounted master power kill switch

-no forward facing hood scoops or air induction systems(sealed cowls ok)

-front spoilers/airdams=must be somewhat stock appearing, 3" ground clearence,cannot exceed 45" from center of front spindle

-general i.h.r.a./n.h.r.a safety rules will apply


SUSPENSION-

-stock type=any bolt on replacement parts ok(battle boxes ok but must be set in stock hole location)

-mini tub ok

-coilovers ok

-airbags ok

-adjustable shocks ok, struts only on cars equipped from factory

-10" wheel max. no beadlocks

-anti roll ok

-no wheelie bars



FUEL-

-4150 style carbs(no dominators or sv1)

-pump gas, race gas, or E85 ok(no methonol)



TIRES-

28x10.5 or 275/60 radials


IGNITION BOXES-

-no programmable boxes(msd #6201,6425,6421,6520,7222,7230,7520 are ok. mallory hyfire6a, 6al,6al2 ok

-no traction controllers or data loggers

-2step, 3step ok

-on boxes with retards: 1 retard will be allowed. if a box has multiple then the others will have to have a 0 pill or shut off some way.

-NO PROGRESSIVES!!!!

-if a modular motor entry comes we will go by P.T.R.A rules for them



MOTORS-

-s.b. max of 434

-b.b. max of 470

-stock blocks only

-conventional style heads only(no 18 degree,sb2, big chiefs and such)

-cast single plane intake(no cutting and rewelding)

-porting of heads & intake ok

-no dry sumps

-no vacum pumps

-motors under 360c.i. can have a single spray bar n2o plate with a max jet of .072

-must have 12" of ground wire from the solenoids to the carb stud(no doubling back of wire and it cannot go inside of the firewall and back out)

-#6 n2o line ok

-n2o must activate with a wide open switch or a button inside by the driver

-no bottles mounted under the hood( only 1 bottle inside of car)

-only 1 n2o, 1 fuel, and 1 purge solenoids allowed (purge must exit away from engine compartment)

-no turbos or blowers



WEIGHTS-

-s.b. 3,150lbs.

-b.b. 3,300lbs


if a car wins 2 races, 50lbs. will be added and each additional win there after will be 10lbs.


a car can be protested for $150.00 but it must be written out as to what is being called illegal.



THESE RULES ARE A STARTING GROUND FOR US. THEY CAN BE ADJUSTED . WE WILL GO AND TRY TO DO SOME TESTING TO MAKE SURE WE ARE CLOSE.


i'm sure that there are some cars that will be flying by these rules but in all honesty they should be close and and the racers can enjoy this without spending a ton. let me know what ya'll think.

In this class will you show the time.

yes the boards will be on . it's a regular heads up class so the guys need to know how they run so they know where they qualify.

that is good news, thanks cook.

what is the expected ET for this class?

Ok Thad not trying to be hard to get along with lol But you might want to add what deck height stock block because i have a gm stock truck block that is a 10.2 block,you know how it goes people will try it because it wasn't specified.

Wayne

wayne the limit on a b.b. is 470. i'd imagine that with a block of that kind it wouldn't have a bunch of compression? idk....but i'll post on here the specific's once i talk to the guys that build the engines and make it clear. thanks

A 429-460 BB Ford is 10.3 deck height.

Thad, I suggest you to change class name because NMRA has one of their classes called "Hot Street" that I been following them. Dont want confusion to others, fans and people out there with rules different. IMO.

Thad
Sounds good hope we can make our stuff run. Looks like a 600 to 630 class should get alot of cars for this with these rules
The only thing I wish is to add 50lbs for a dominator lol

so does this mean any motor combo over 360 ci is not allowed power adders?

ok, we will change the name. didn't know of that. all the motors above 360 will be on motor and the smaller ones gets a single bar with a jet rule.

also the chevy's will use the 9.8 deck block (short deck). this way it will be a car block in the car. fords don't have the chioce of tall or short. i think they are all one style. we are trying to keep it simple to tech and simple for the racer.

now, i'm up for suggetions as to what name for the class? give me some idea's.

how about calling it quick street.

Thad this class sounds fun i working on changing the crank and pistons in my motor to get 355 inches cause lord knowes i need sum n2o lol

Whoa I just caught the No Retard boxes??? Umm if we are spraying we need that.

outlaw street sounds good

If all you are using is a little .072 jet you can back your timing up to start with and that won't be much.

jason, all you do is pull your timing out at the distributor. say you set it at 28 instead of 34. we do it all the time, as a matter of fact thats how it was done before the retard boxes were invented.

PROformance Street

MODified Street

Jason, I noticed in the rules that you can run a 7AL3 box. Thats what I use in my car. you can use chips and back your timing up as much as you want to with chips. it has done a good job for us. are do it like cook said. hope this helps.

Thad..you guys still doing grudge series, right? Finally, getting my rebuild pretty close to finished..... And here you go with another class I'm not optimized for..LMAO! Thanks...LOL!

the grudge series class is still a go, good class.

I get the idea of moving the timing however what would a retard box hurt is my real question.

I have a digital 6 plus can that be used? It does not have any type of traction control or timing for the tree.

I THINK THE DIGITAL 6 IS PROGRAMABLE. THE REASON FOR THE RULE IS SO NOBODY CAN PLOT A TIMING CURVE IN IT. IT'S ALL OLD SCHOOL RACING. YOU DO IT WITH TIMING LIGHTS AND WRENCHES. IF THE TRACK IS HOT AND SLICK YOU COULD GO BACK AND CHANGE YOUR CURVE AND THE CAR WOULDN'T EVEN SPIN. THIS TYPE OF RULE PUTS THE TUNER BACK IN TO IT AND THE DRIVER.

I got ya..My box is not programmable for that. I dont think

Here are the features from msds website

Switch between two rev limits that adjust with rotary switches in 100 rpm increments.
Single stage retard for nitrous and top end performance.
Start retard eases pressure on the starter, flywheel and engine.
Adjustable magnetic pickup compensation produces accurate trigger signals.
LED display warns of trigger signal problems or faulty charging system.
Fully potted with polyurethane for vibration and water protection.

its part number 6520 If someone would take a look and see if it could be used that would be great.

jason i think what he is saying is u can change ur timing at any given rpm to help for track conditions etc.... not sure tho.

hmmm i do not see any adjustments on the side of the box for that though..I just want to be 100% cause i have checked the price on the box walt has and its not in the budget!

If mine cannot be used does anyone have a 7al3 box for sale

I am sure that the msd digital 6 is not outlawed under the rules for the reason i say this is you cannot ramp the timing in or set the slew rate like you can the digital 7 ! The digital 6 that is in jasons car is not programmable ! It is just the same as running a 2step box on the old msd 6al with just the addition of bieng able to retard the timng at the release of the trans brake and it is not able to adjust the timing outside of that ! I wired this car so i know what it can and cannot do ! I am not trying to start a pissing match or trying to favor anyone but just stating the facts about the box that is in jasons car ! Good luck to all with the new class i would really like to see it kick off and have a great turnout ! And i f i have stepped on anybody toes throughout this statement then i am sorry ! But just learn to keep them out of the way ! Later Joker !

I have been studying these all morning and I think The Joker is right. Mine is not programmable. The one that is programmable is the 6al2! I just have the digital 6 plus. also the digital 7 plus programmable is as well.

Thad if you get a chance take a look at mine its part number 6520. I really want to race my msd was only $300 that 7al3 is like $600

Jason get you a 6al you can run that any where Ive got the dig6 also but Im going to use a 6al with a 3 step