...was pretty damn good! Prof and I went to a midnight showing last night and I, for one, was pleasantly surprised! Well acted (by a terrific cast), solid story, did a nice job balancing many parts (unlike Spidey 3) and was way funnier than I thought it would be.

Some highlights (no spoilers)

--- Robert Downey, Jr.

--- Scarlett Johannson was not given too much to do and so was not the immense black hole of suck that Jessica Alba was in FF. I had previously been worried.

--- Robert Downey, Jr.

--- Had at least 2 major nerdgasm moments.

--- Robert Downey, Jr.

--- Cool stuff after the credits.

--- Mickey ****ing Rourke

--- Robert Downey, Jr.

--- Don Cheadle's first line was hilarious and you have to see it to find out why.

--- Robert Downey, Jr.

A-. Go see it.

Thanks for the highlights, after the first movie I was cautiously optimistic about the sequel. I can't wait to go!

SUNDAY SUNDAY SUNDAY!! B)

I'm looking forward to seeing it. I might have to wait until early afternoon next weekend though, tickets are usually around $6 rather than $11. I'm not sure what to think of Mickey Rourke... I feel like he stands out in every movie he's in... and I mean he stands out as in "oh hey that's Mickey Rourke, being Mickey Rourke again..."

There were a few things I didn't like, or thought were really sloppy, but overall it was still great. Downey's Tony Stark will NEVER get old.

My bf is gushing about this film to (which I assume is because of Scarlett Johansson *gag*). We went and saw it early Saturday and I have to say I liked it too. Lots of action which I love though I was hoping for some more Samuel L Jackson as I really like his Ultimates' version of Fury. And OMG RDJr is pure sexiness as always :wub:.

I was really surprised though that only 2 other couples besides us stuck it out till the end of the credits. Don't these people know about the teasers Marvel's been tossing in at the end of these films?

And true to form, she was horrible as always.

Can we turn this into a spoiler thread? I need to bitch about an entire section of the movie.

Havent seen it yet but go ahead and bitch about it.

Yes, by all means, bitch away. I've seen it and am curious what section you're referring to.





Was it the invention of a new element?

SPOILARZ! (Highlight to be ruined!)

I hated almost the entire party scene. I thought Rhodes using it as an excuse to get in the suit was just that, a lame excuse to move the plot. Having a full on suit battle in a room full of civilians isn't really the way I see a Marine Lieutenant handling that situation. I know the Rhodes/Stark battle is important, but the way it was done felt forced and lame to me.

I also found the whole new element thread to be kind of lame. I'm surprised Nic Cage didn't show up to help figure out the inner meaning of the city model and the secrets buried within! <_< Just seemed like an odd thing that Stark senior would've setup to get to the end result. Which then happened in 30 seconds of screen time.

I thought Scarlett Johannson was unbelievable everytime she spoke a sentence. The fight scene with her was the only thing I liked and that's probably cause most of it was her stunt double. :lol:

That's all I can remember now. Overall I still liked it a lot. Downey IS Stark and will ALWAYS be awesome in that role. Rourke was great and Sam Rockwell is always awesome. But seriously...what was up with his tan hands?!? :blink:

I think I'm only in agreement on the National Treasure comparison. It seemed a little too convenient, and didn't really fit the tone of the movie.

Scarlett was in the film just the right amount. I didn't think she had a large enough role to ruin the movie or anything.

I sorta bought the party fight scene. I know if I were to try and stop a drunk guy in an Iron Man suit from being reckless, I'd want a little protection for the task. Leaving with the armor after the fight...I'm undecided on that still.

SPOILERS:

I liked the party scene too. Rhodey was sick of this shit. He was in a tough position between his bosses and his friend. He was constantly trying to side with Tony, but every time he did, Tony would turn around and do something idiotic and make Rhodey look like an ass for siding with him. Tony was being selfish and irresponsible, and the party was the last straw. Tony had already put all of those civilians in danger (a fact they didn't seem to care about, in fact) and he certainly wasn't going to stop a drunk superpowered Tony without some aid. It's not like he came out guns a'blazin'; I think his intent was to impress upon Tony that he wasn't going to take his shit anymore and was hoping that he would just stand down, but was ready in case Tony decided to get confrontational.

That's why at the end he finally said f' it, Tony's not worth it, and just took the suit to his bosses. I'm not even sure that that was his intention when he first put the suit on.

Oh, and about Sam Rockwell's tan hands: I thought that was a great character piece for him--that he doesn't really understand how things in the real world work. His work is so fake and artificial that he doesn't even realize that putting bronzer on your hands looks weird as hell. A little cartoony? Yes, but I thought it was fun.

Agreed. I thought it was hilarious. :lol:

I was going to respond but Prof said every I would have and better as well. ;)

Scarlett Johannson was good, and I didn't even really find her all that attractive in the movie, so it was not a boner induced approval. I just never thought of her as "black widow" just as a government agent infiltrating Stark, so that could be why her part seemed alright to me.

Sam Jackson as Nick Fury . . . I ain't buying it. He is too silly as Nick Fury. It will never compare to the lameness of his Mace Windu character (ugh, and that saber duel, blech), but that is not how I envisioned him playing Fury. He better get some grit and bigger balls if he is gonna head the Avengers. Pepper Potts seemed to have more back bone than him.

Overall, it was a fun movie that was hampered a bit by an incredibly sore back (mine, and trying to sit in the movie seat was killing me).

Also, where the hell was the scene where Pepper kisses the Iron Man helmet and throws it out the back of the plane?

One more thing, I think the credits might be wrong in the movie . . . I won't swear to it, but in "Highway to Hell" it credits Angus Young, Malcolm Young and Brian Johnson, or that is what I read as I was waiting for the scene after the credits. Brian Johnson was not part of the band for "Highway to Hell" that would have been Bon Scott as lead singer of the band. Again, maybe I am confused, but I swear it said that. Besides, nobody on this board is gonna care except Sundevil, maybe?

When I envision Samuellllll! LLLL!!!! Jackson!!!! as Nick fury I picture his role in XXX , but whatever .

You are right it was Bon Scott he died 6 months after the song hit the charts, but Johnson is credited on that song a few times from live albums and a lot of times they use the newer live versions for stuff because they are usually better recordings but the written credit should still go to Bon Scott. Sorry for the lesson but I love me some ac dc a lot. As a side note if you like Bon Scott's voice you should listen to Ac/Db they are on itunes and do well on itunes because Brian Johnson hate music services. They are a tribute band and probably the best I've ever heard some of there songs are just ok, but some are real good I personally like T.N.T and thunderstruck they really sound good and the cool thing is he sounds a lot like bon and not much like johnson so you can kind of hear what stuff would of sounded like with the original sound.

My questioning was more if I actually saw it, not if it was Bon Scott or not. Huge AC/DC fan here as well . . .

And yes, I have checked out AC/DB :) Way better than that Industrial tribute album done for them years ago ;)

Well then back to the original point then you probably did see it because I've seen it before on other things

Ok so I started digging some more and I am 100% sure you saw what you think you saw because IMDB has it listed as Brian Johnson writing it for Iron Man 2 and some other movies but they also credit Scott for other things so I am wondering if it's one of those things that people just forget about Scott altogether because I've known a lot of people that don't have any idea there was two singers because it's been so long you should see the looks on peoples faces when they hear Big Balls for the first time. Maybe it's a rights thing never setup the estate or something and Johnson took the rights for himself but really I am just guessing because looking it up it seems real strange.

Yeah, strange indeed. I can't really find any stories about it, so it must be common place in the music industry.

Ok I loved the movie... and I guess I'll use the spoiler color from here on out.

The parts with Nick Fury were campy and lame as hell. They didn't fit with the movie one bit, and Sammy Jackson looks like a comic character... and by that I mean he isn't adapted for film at all. The eye patch looks silly, but maybe that's just because of the redorkulous trench coat.

It's interesting to me that in The Ultimates Bryan Hitch basically drew Nick Fury as if it were played by Sam Jackson, so you would think it would be a perfect fit... but something about it just doesn't work at all for me. It seemed like they tried to have Stark and Fury have some witty back-and-forth but they were just off their game that day.

Black Widow seemed alright to me, but unlike John I am not entirely sure if I was under the influence of a boner or not.

Speaking of being under the influence... it would seem like Tony Stark drunk driving the Iron Man suit would be a bigger deal. Even all the party-goers should have been like "woah, cool you shot a watermelon Mr. Stark, but holy shit you could blow all of us up in a second."

I liked the film, but not as much as the original. Maybe I need to see it a few more times to be comfortable with it. I liked Don Cheadle as Rhodey and I didn't mind Scarlett Johansson as Black Widow. Sam Jackson as Nick Fury was humorous, I know I probably shouldn't say that but whatever.

I couldn't stand Mickey Rourke for a single moment. If Marvel wanted to cast a villain that you hate at first site, then I guess they got that part right. And to those of you who think Rourke is "Badass", please enlighten me. And don't give me some bullshit about how his use of the toothpick as a prop is due to his skills as an actor. The only time I have a toothpick in my mouth is after I've gotten a free food sample at the grocery store and can't find a trashcan to put it in.

But does anyone refer to you as a "badass"?

You're using the toothpick wrong, Rourke kicked tons of ass in this movie.

minus his puffy lips

We're lucky he had a toothpick to deflate them with, they were getting out of hand for a while.

True fiction fact- he is Angelina Jolie's lip double in Girl, Interrupted.

That is fact AND science!

For me Rourke was badass because he wasn't like, "I'm going to beat you down," he was more like, "I'm totally going to outsmart you, you smug bastard." I like thinking villains.

The thing that really made that character appealing was the whole thinking of he doesn't have to beat Iron Man to actually beat him, just getting the blood in the water for the rest of the world's sharks to finish him off. Show them it is possible to make a god bleed.

I hope they use this as a springboard for future movies, how Rourke's character was an inspiration to them and he is a martyr for the the people against Stark.

The only thing that bugged me was were we to believe that he knew Stark was gonna be in the race? Or was that just lucky for him, since he was gonna do it anyways to draw him in and it was just made all that much easier?

That, but the toothpick did start to bother me by the end.

So, I finally saw the movie last night. Not much to say that hasn't been said but I liked it a lot.

Oh, Scarlett + Gwyneth = win.

It's because he plays the role like Jules from Pulp Fiction, which is not how I see the Ultimates Nick Fury. That donut shop scene was total Jules and it was out of place for the image I have of the character.

Every time my dad leaves a restaurant he grabs toothpicks. Not to use them, just to have sticking out of his mouth for an hour or so. Sometimes more than one toothpick! This is in NO way badass mind you. :lol: Just saying, some people do have toothpicks for absolutely no reason.

This brings to mind one of the things that I thought was lame. He had both Iron Man and War Machine beat! Then he retracts his helmet for absolutely no reaon other than to give up his advantage.

This may be a stretch, but I felt they established early on that Whiplash wasn't out to kill Stark, but to humiliate and discredit him. He didn't care about his own welfare, as long as Stark suffered.

...which is how every movie villain loses.

Rubber Sled, I agree.

To me, that was something quintessential to the character. He didn't want to beat Stark. That would be too quick.

The way he saw it, his dad died sick, pennyless, discredited, and forgotten all because of Stark's father, and to rub the salt in the wound, now Stark was parading around all thanks to a device that his father helped elder Stark design. Plus then figure in Whiplash's own fractured life for the classic "blame someone else for your own bad choices" style villain.

Killing Tony Stark wouldn't pay the Stark family back for all that his family went through. He didn't want Stark to die, he wanted to start a chain of events that would hopefully begin to make Stark's life into a long, hellish one.

Think of where he struck: two very public places here Tony was large and in charge. (Though I admit I'm not sure how he was supposed to know about Tony's prominent role in Monaco...) And when he fights with Stark, he seems to be toying with him more than simply trying to kill him.

When I saw him take off the helmet, I thought he was doing it so he could look Stark in the eye and say something like, "Look at this, I could kill you right now. And if I can do this, you can bet there will be others." That's what I thought he meant at the end when he said, "You lose."

Anyway, that was my take, and why I thought that it was a particularly good villain. He had the most dangerous thing a bad guy can have: patience.

I always thought it was having a black hole at your disposal that you towed around behind your armada . . .

Yeah, but the Mekon can only appear in so many things before he gets played out. ;)