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Willieisdead
Posted: Nov 5 2009, 02:11 AM


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Is this even fucking legal?

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-stat...0,2028140.story

Starting Sunday, cash-strapped California will dig deeper into the pocketbooks of wage earners -- holding back 10% more than it already does in state income taxes just as the biggest shopping season of the year kicks into gear.

Technically, it's not a tax increase, even though it may feel like one when your next paycheck arrives. As part of a bundle of budget patches adopted in the summer, the state is taking more money now in withholding, even though workers' annual tax bills won't change.

Think of it as a forced, interest-free loan: You'll be repaid any extra withholding in April. Those who would receive a refund anyway will receive a larger one, and those who owe taxes will owe less.


So the state unemployment rate is higher than the national rate, the state is in the top 3 in foreclosures and overall state economy is in dire straits and Sacramento is going to suck out another billion dollars or so for as part of an accounting gimmick.

Fuck 'em. Fuck all of 'em...everyone of these fuckers needs to get bounced.

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MyNameIs_Mud
Posted: Nov 5 2009, 02:18 AM


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Sounds like CA is literally confiscating money that legally does not belong to them.

Willie, try not paying your state taxes until October next year and see what happens. You need the money, right? I'm sure your state government will understand your quid pro quo.
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Willieisdead
Posted: Nov 5 2009, 02:21 AM


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QUOTE (MyNameIs_Mud @ Nov 5 2009, 02:18 AM)
Sounds like CA is literally confiscating money that legally does not belong to them.

Willie, try not paying your state taxes until October next year and see what happens. You need the money, right? I'm sure your state government will understand your quid pro quo.

I'll raise you...the State Board of Equalization will come down on your business like a fucking hammer if you're not paying your sales & use tax on time.

Doesn't matter you're operating in an environment where people are'nt spending money in a community where the unemployment rate is higher than the overall state rate which is well above the national number.

This state is literally run by fucking idiots. If it weren't going to do such damage to millions of people I'd be laughing my ass off as this place implodes under the weight of it's own stupidity.
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MyNameIs_Mud
Posted: Nov 5 2009, 02:41 AM


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QUOTE (Willieisdead @ Nov 4 2009, 07:21 PM)
QUOTE (MyNameIs_Mud @ Nov 5 2009, 02:18 AM)
Sounds like CA is literally confiscating money that legally does not belong to them.

Willie, try not paying your state taxes until October next year and see what happens.  You need the money, right?  I'm sure your state government will understand your quid pro quo.

I'll raise you...the State Board of Equalization will come down on your business like a fucking hammer if you're not paying your sales & use tax on time.

Doesn't matter you're operating in an environment where people are'nt spending money in a community where the unemployment rate is higher than the overall state rate which is well above the national number.

This state is literally run by fucking idiots. If it weren't going to do such damage to millions of people I'd be laughing my ass off as this place implodes under the weight of it's own stupidity.

We're right behind you in Oregon. I expect the same within the next year. I'm not sure we even have a state government anymore, however. I haven't seen the Gov. on the news for at least three weeks.

Wonder why?
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DR_PostingBillboard
Posted: Nov 5 2009, 02:55 AM


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QUOTE (Willieisdead @ Nov 4 2009, 10:11 PM)
Is this even fucking legal?

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-stat...0,2028140.story

Starting Sunday, cash-strapped California will dig deeper into the pocketbooks of wage earners -- holding back 10% more than it already does in state income taxes just as the biggest shopping season of the year kicks into gear.

Technically, it's not a tax increase, even though it may feel like one when your next paycheck arrives. As part of a bundle of budget patches adopted in the summer, the state is taking more money now in withholding, even though workers' annual tax bills won't change.

Think of it as a forced, interest-free loan: You'll be repaid any extra withholding in April. Those who would receive a refund anyway will receive a larger one, and those who owe taxes will owe less.


So the state unemployment rate is higher than the national rate, the state is in the top 3 in foreclosures and overall state economy is in dire straits and Sacramento is going to suck out another billion dollars or so for as part of an accounting gimmick.

Fuck 'em. Fuck all of 'em...everyone of these fuckers needs to get bounced.

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no federal law against it... don't know what the state says...

can't think of a better way to throw the middle class under the bus though.
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Willieisdead
Posted: Nov 5 2009, 03:12 AM


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QUOTE (DR_PostingBillboard @ Nov 5 2009, 02:55 AM)
QUOTE (Willieisdead @ Nov 4 2009, 10:11 PM)
Is this even fucking legal?

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-stat...0,2028140.story

Starting Sunday, cash-strapped California will dig deeper into the pocketbooks of wage earners -- holding back 10% more than it already does in state income taxes just as the biggest shopping season of the year kicks into gear.

Technically, it's not a tax increase, even though it may feel like one when your next paycheck arrives. As part of a bundle of budget patches adopted in the summer, the state is taking more money now in withholding, even though workers' annual tax bills won't change.

Think of it as a forced, interest-free loan: You'll be repaid any extra withholding in April. Those who would receive a refund anyway will receive a larger one, and those who owe taxes will owe less.


So the state unemployment rate is higher than the national rate, the state is in the top 3 in foreclosures and overall state economy is in dire straits and Sacramento is going to suck out another billion dollars or so for as part of an accounting gimmick.

Fuck 'em. Fuck all of 'em...everyone of these fuckers needs to get bounced.

fuckyou.gif

no federal law against it... don't know what the state says...

can't think of a better way to throw the middle class under the bus though.

This is crying out for a court challenge...

This is bullshit.
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MyNameIs_Mud
Posted: Nov 5 2009, 04:24 AM


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Why only 10% more? Why not 100% more?

Just take everybody's income until the state is balanced and the government jobs are safe.

We're heading toward a neo-revolution, aren't we.
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Dal1as
Posted: Nov 5 2009, 04:40 AM


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...but keep on paying those college grants to children of illegals, money for specialy education to their offspring, and medical bills,...

California is basically a lost cause. Other states will follow soon enough. sad.gif
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Frank Pentangelli
Posted: Nov 5 2009, 05:25 AM


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Like companies that decide that contractually obligated quarterly bonuses will henceforth be paid at year-end....you pay the same tax rate, you just don't get the money till year end and then pay all the taxes in a lump. Somehow that's not considered a pay cut.
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MyNameIs_Mud
Posted: Nov 5 2009, 06:22 AM


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QUOTE (Frank Pentangelli @ Nov 4 2009, 10:25 PM)
Like companies that decide that contractually obligated quarterly bonuses will henceforth be paid at year-end....you pay the same tax rate, you just don't get the money till year end and then pay all the taxes in a lump. Somehow that's not considered a pay cut.

Except the state of CA doesn't actually have the money in this instance.
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Clarence Boddicker
Posted: Nov 5 2009, 08:10 AM


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Step 1: Sell Cullyforneeyah to China.

Step 2: ????

Step 3: Profit.

The hippies and the swine in Hollywood would LOVE it! At long last, the brutal, oppressive communist dictatorship they've been dreaming of....right in their own backyard!
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Willieisdead
Posted: Nov 5 2009, 04:56 PM


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QUOTE (MyNameIs_Mud @ Nov 5 2009, 04:24 AM)
Why only 10% more? Why not 100% more?

Just take everybody's income until the state is balanced and the government jobs are safe.

We're heading toward a neo-revolution, aren't we.

Prop 13 redux.
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JohnDough
Posted: Nov 5 2009, 06:48 PM


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QUOTE (Willieisdead @ Nov 4 2009, 07:11 PM)
Is this even fucking legal?

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-stat...0,2028140.story

Starting Sunday, cash-strapped California will dig deeper into the pocketbooks of wage earners -- holding back 10% more than it already does in state income taxes just as the biggest shopping season of the year kicks into gear.

Technically, it's not a tax increase, even though it may feel like one when your next paycheck arrives. As part of a bundle of budget patches adopted in the summer, the state is taking more money now in withholding, even though workers' annual tax bills won't change.

Think of it as a forced, interest-free loan: You'll be repaid any extra withholding in April. Those who would receive a refund anyway will receive a larger one, and those who owe taxes will owe less.


So the state unemployment rate is higher than the national rate, the state is in the top 3 in foreclosures and overall state economy is in dire straits and Sacramento is going to suck out another billion dollars or so for as part of an accounting gimmick.

Fuck 'em. Fuck all of 'em...everyone of these fuckers needs to get bounced.

fuckyou.gif

I can only imagine how bad it would be if the governor was a democrat.
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JohnDough
Posted: Nov 5 2009, 06:56 PM


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Stop bitching Willie. You're savvy enough, no?

Savvy taxpayers can get around the state's maneuver by increasing the number of personal withholding allowances they claim on their employer tax forms, said Brenda Voet, a spokeswoman for the state's Franchise Tax Board.

"People can get out of this," she said, noting that most people would have to change their allowances through their employers. California's budget leaders are banking on the hope that most won't.
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Willieisdead
Posted: Nov 5 2009, 07:32 PM


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QUOTE (JohnDough @ Nov 5 2009, 06:56 PM)
Stop bitching Willie. You're savvy enough, no?

Savvy taxpayers can get around the state's maneuver by increasing the number of personal withholding allowances they claim on their employer tax forms, said Brenda Voet, a spokeswoman for the state's Franchise Tax Board.

"People can get out of this," she said, noting that most people would have to change their allowances through their employers. California's budget leaders are banking on the hope that most won't.

Yes, but so not the f'ing point.
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