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Posted by: Manmountain 14 May 2007, 09:20 PM
http://revolt.speedweek.net/rv_house/
RV House has been officially released. It is intended to give Re-Volt players an online meeting place where races can be easily hosted and joined.


RV House - Copyright © 2006 by Mr. Ajalkane. Design by ADX & Mr. Ajalkane.

Posted by: Dave-o-rama 21 May 2007, 11:56 PM
House ownz! biggrin.gif

Posted by: jaseaka 16 Jul 2008, 03:03 PM
http://revolt.speedweek.net/rv_house/

i just posted an working address to use for rvhouse web site. since i saw on other message boards that rvhouse.net site isn't available.

Posted by: ADX 7 Sep 2008, 10:39 PM
As I see, no more rvhouse.net available.
sad.gif

Regards,
ADX

Posted by: Crone94 8 Sep 2008, 02:09 PM
QUOTE (ADX @ Sep 7 2008, 10:39 PM)
As I see, no more rvhouse.net available.
sad.gif

Regards,
ADX


Yea, dunno why it suddenly disappeared..

Posted by: urnemanden 9 Sep 2008, 08:35 AM
Pretty weird though, because that was an easy way to remember what the link to
RV House is. smile.gif




Posted by: jaseaka 9 Sep 2008, 11:37 AM
or just add the working link to ur bookmarks...

Posted by: piN 29 Sep 2008, 08:57 PM
OK my bad, I let it lapse sad.gif

But.................... I have renewed it yaya!!! so let it get all interwebed and it should work again in a few days.

Pin

Posted by: robenue 30 Sep 2008, 02:31 PM
I've noticed that RV house doesnt do it's job normaly.. It seems to not like HP computers. What happens is I try and host, then launch.. it stalls on a black screen or doesnt launch the .exe it's self.. the second reason would have to be the joining issue, same reason.. just cannot connect to the game.. without the joining to lobby error message.

Posted by: zagames 30 Sep 2008, 10:26 PM
Sorry. But I believe the problem could be with the HP itself. I have never had any luck with a Hewlett Packard. Especially these days when HP's come with all that extra software that eats up your computer. The only thing you can really do is just keep trying.

Posted by: arto 2 Oct 2008, 03:18 PM
QUOTE (piN @ Sep 29 2008, 08:57 PM)
But.................... I have renewed it yaya!!! so let it get all interwebed and it should work again in a few days.

Thanks dawg!

Posted by: UrbanR 1 May 2011, 09:06 PM
Hello. Sorry if this is the wrong place to post this (although I doubt it), but I preferred to write here instead of creating a new topic.

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Lately (for one day, actually), I've been getting the following error each time I tried to connect to RV House:

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/231/errorvhousem.png

I'm not sure if it's my PC, or something with the server - or just simply RV House's fault. I've reinstalled the program and nothing changed. May I ask what is wrong?

Posted by: arto 2 May 2011, 05:09 PM
QUOTE (UrbanR @ May 1 2011, 09:06 PM)
Hello. Sorry if this is the wrong place to post this (although I doubt it), but I preferred to write here instead of creating a new topic.

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Lately (for one day, actually), I've been getting the following error each time I tried to connect to RV House:

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/231/errorvhousem.png

I'm not sure if it's my PC, or something with the server - or just simply RV House's fault. I've reinstalled the program and nothing changed. May I ask what is wrong?

There is a kadc.ini file in your C:\Program Files\RV House\conf directory. Try removing that one and restart RV House. Also try removing data\contact.dat and restart.


Posted by: UrbanR 3 May 2011, 05:30 PM
I deleted the "kadc.ini" and everything is fine now. Thank you.

Posted by: hilaire9 14 May 2011, 01:06 AM
Osama bin Laden's last Re-volt race:

user posted image

Posted by: r6turboextreme 14 May 2011, 09:43 AM
XD

Posted by: victorpsbg 17 May 2011, 11:36 AM
This was good biggrin.gif
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roflmao.gif roflmao.gif roflmao.gif

Posted by: kajeuter 24 May 2011, 06:46 PM
Hey arto if u need a translation to Dutch for RVHouse I can help u.

Posted by: hilaire9 25 Jun 2011, 08:03 PM
June 25....RVH Central Server down and dead!

Posted by: arto 26 Jun 2011, 06:36 PM
Behold,

booting the centralized server. Get up you old piece of junk!

Posted by: arto 26 Jun 2011, 06:39 PM
QUOTE (kajeuter @ May 24 2011, 06:46 PM)
Hey arto if u need a translation to Dutch for RVHouse I can help u.

I can't speak dutch, so I don't personally need it. But if you're willing to do one, I'll include it and am grateful for dutch RV House users! So thanks if you're willing to make the effort.

But please do not start it until I've released a new RVH version. There's some slight changes in the format.

Posted by: Phantom 26 Jun 2011, 07:35 PM
Maybe those changes are related with 16 connections support and other 1.2 optimizations, am I right?

Btw, I already finished the Spanish Update for RVH. smile.gif
There have been a lot of changes since ADX made the first one in 2006. So I'll wait for the new release too, in order to send you the full translation.

Greetings.


PS: I'm glad that centralized server is working again. Thanks!

Posted by: arto 26 Jun 2011, 10:05 PM
QUOTE (Phantom @ Jun 26 2011, 07:35 PM)
Maybe those changes are related with 16 connections support and other 1.2 optimizations, am I right?

No... Those will come after the next release.

Posted by: kajeuter 27 Jun 2011, 08:29 AM
QUOTE (arto @ Jun 26 2011, 06:39 PM)
QUOTE (kajeuter @ May 24 2011, 06:46 PM)
Hey arto if u need a translation to Dutch for RVHouse I can help u.

I can't speak dutch, so I don't personally need it. But if you're willing to do one, I'll include it and am grateful for dutch RV House users! So thanks if you're willing to make the effort.

But please do not start it until I've released a new RVH version. There's some slight changes in the format.

ah ok, let me know when I can start

Posted by: arto 27 Jun 2011, 11:06 PM
I uploaded a new version. This is quite a big change internally in RV House, although not much is visible to the user. The UI toolkit has been changed from FOX toolkit to Qt toolkit. This allows for more rapid development, and using more advanced UI. Unfortunately the end result is larger installer and executable.

I'm quite sure there are bugs that I did not notice. Please report when you see them. Also I stripped some functionality that I thought is not really necessary. Please let me know if something is missing that you'd like to be reimplemented.

Since there is very real possibility that this version messes something very badly, the old version is still available. If you have dire problems, install the older version from here:

rvhouse.zackattackgames.com/downloads/rv_house_setup_0.92.3.exe

But remember to tell me what the problem was.

Posted by: arto 27 Jun 2011, 11:07 PM
QUOTE (kajeuter @ Jun 27 2011, 08:29 AM)
QUOTE (arto @ Jun 26 2011, 06:39 PM)
QUOTE (kajeuter @ May 24 2011, 06:46 PM)
Hey arto if u need a translation to Dutch for RVHouse I can help u.

I can't speak dutch, so I don't personally need it. But if you're willing to do one, I'll include it and am grateful for dutch RV House users! So thanks if you're willing to make the effort.

But please do not start it until I've released a new RVH version. There's some slight changes in the format.

ah ok, let me know when I can start

You can indeed start now, after you download the newest version and use its english.lang as starting point.

Thanks!

Posted by: kajeuter 27 Jun 2011, 11:34 PM
QUOTE (arto @ Jun 27 2011, 11:07 PM)
QUOTE (kajeuter @ Jun 27 2011, 08:29 AM)
QUOTE (arto @ Jun 26 2011, 06:39 PM)
QUOTE (kajeuter @ May 24 2011, 06:46 PM)
Hey arto if u need a translation to Dutch for RVHouse I can help u.

I can't speak dutch, so I don't personally need it. But if you're willing to do one, I'll include it and am grateful for dutch RV House users! So thanks if you're willing to make the effort.

But please do not start it until I've released a new RVH version. There's some slight changes in the format.

ah ok, let me know when I can start

You can indeed start now, after you download the newest version and use its english.lang as starting point.

Thanks!

Ok, ill start. I pm u when im finished.

Posted by: Phantom 28 Jun 2011, 03:36 AM
Hi Arto, Thankyou for the new RV House update 0.93.0, it looks awesome!
It has a more modern style that fits perfectly the Windows Vista & 7 style.

Ok first reporter here, so I'll tell you my suggestions to keep improving:
A - I noticed that some characters like "ñ"; "ó"; etc.. are not properly shown in the menus (tested in Spanish but may happen in Magyar and others languages too).
I see "¿½" instead of these characters, for example conexi¿½n, while it should say conexión. What may be the reason for this? Can this be fixed?

B - In the Rooms Panel, the space for "Room Name" option is a bit small, allowing only small room names to show completely.
And I also noticed that there is a lot of free space at the right of Pickups option, which can be added at the left to increase the size of "Room Name" option.

C - If you look at the upper part of the program, in the name you can see: rv_house.
The same when you minimize the program and look in your taskbar. I think it should say "RV House", right?

D - Not very important for the moment but will definitely increase the RV House beauty in the future and match better the new GUI:
What do you think about updating the icons? Maybe some new Windows Vista/7 style icons like the new Re-Volt 1.2 icon.
Just a small suggestion for the future.

Ok, that's all I could find so far. Thankyou again and we'll keep feedback.

Best whishes.

Phantom

Posted by: Huki 28 Jun 2011, 09:50 AM
Nice arto.. with this UI upgrade I think you've taken care of most annoying bugs, (with scrolling, etc). I like how we can fully hide all the side panes and keep only the chat pane open.
Found one bug though: pressing the "Join Room" button without any room selected crashes rvhouse. Another minor problem is that the players who are connected to both the server and P2P have the same green color, like the players who are only connected to the server. And as Phantom said, some window and toolbar positions and orientations are.. well, "different". But I actually think it looks smarter now.

By the way, when you are going to support "16 players in room", you should also disable writing the number of cars value to registry. Because 1) a value above 12 in this reg key can crash re-volt, and 2) this value is never used by re-volt for lobby games.

Posted by: arto 28 Jun 2011, 10:13 AM
Thanks for the feedback Phantom & Huki.

I'll look into the language problem. It is of course fixable. The language files may be accidentally in wrong encoding.

Space for room name - you can resize the columns and RV House might even remember the sizes (don't remember off hand). But I'll look if I can put smarter default sizes.

About icons, I'm not an artist and can't make any better (I find them quite good smile.gif. The current ones were done by Piqasgue and ADX. Of course if someone creates updated ones that are more modern I can include them.

As of the rest of the bugs, I'll fix them soon and will remove the writing of number of cars to the registry. Huki, is there anything else than just increasing the room participant limit to 16 for this change?


Posted by: Huki 28 Jun 2011, 10:22 AM
QUOTE (arto @ Jun 28 2011, 02:43 PM)
Huki, is there anything else than just increasing the room participant limit to 16 for this change?

Nope, that's all there is to it. But the 16 players option only works in 1.2-only games. So maybe you should check whether the "1.2-Only" option is selected in the room settings.. and only then allow the "Players" slider to go above 12.

All the icons look quite good indeed, so the only icons I'd want to see upgraded is the main rvhouse icon. wink.gif But as I'm not an artist either, I'll leave now...

Posted by: urnemanden 28 Jun 2011, 01:36 PM
Last week I did have my own go on a RV House banner for a new website I am working on.

http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/4702/rvhouse.jpg

It may however be a little bit too "modern" and out of style, I don't know.. rolleyes.gif

Anyway, I might have a go on making an icon some time later though I can't promise anything right now. I am however glad to hear that you're ready to change the existing logo if anything better shows up. It always takes a bit time for me to get used to something new, but so far I'm liking the layout!

Posted by: nero 28 Jun 2011, 10:03 PM
I thought changes would harm RVH, but I was sooo wrong.
I like the new look, totally revamped, polished, looks kind of like the IRC channels, but better.
Fixing the above mentioned bugs would be the next objective.

Posted by: arto 28 Jun 2011, 11:39 PM
I uploaded a new version which I hope addresses the bugs:

- Non-english language files (Portuguese and Bulgarian, but others as well)
- Crash when trying to select a room when none selected.

I also addes support for 16 players if RV 1.2 is selected. However, I did not remove the writing to registry as RVH uses it as a "memory" so that when creating new rooms the setting is remembered. Huki, you said about crashing problem... is the problem that if RV 1.2 is used and 16 players have been written to registry, and then later user switches back to RV 1.1/1.0 then he crashes when starting the game? Or something else? I assume RV 1.2 is fine with 16 players in the registry. I'm trying to gauge if this is a problem that's likely to happen or an obscure one that's not worth doing extra work to get around.

The rest of the improvements I'll tackle later, probably next week.

Thanks for the comments on the improved looks - I've only tested so far in virtual machine running Windows 2000 and it looks pretty similar in there, so it's good to get confirmation that the looks have improved in XP/Vista/Windows 7.

Urne: that's a good looking banner, and indeed modern looking. As old-fashioned as I am, I have nothing against RVH looking more modern. But it all has to fit. With that I mean what you also said "out of style", if one part changes so must others so that RVH looks consistent. I might add here, that all the icons used by RVH are modifiable and can be found in the installation under "img/" folder. So everyone can try and do some modifications, and share them with others. If there's new icon sets created, we could even have a poll here if people would like a such a new icon set as default in RVH.

Again, let me know of any problems. I'll be concentrating my free time on RVH for the next week at least to fix any problems.

Posted by: urnemanden 29 Jun 2011, 10:51 AM
Sounds good arto, thank you for dedicating your free time to this. Hopefully I'm going to try out the new feature later today or tomorrow.

Thanks for the info related to the new icons, I might look into it and I hope others will as well. A poll competition could make everything more interesting too, that's for sure!

Posted by: Huki 29 Jun 2011, 12:57 PM
QUOTE (arto @ Jun 29 2011, 04:09 AM)
I also added support for 16 players if RV 1.2 is selected. However, I did not remove the writing to registry as RVH uses it as a "memory" so that when creating new rooms the setting is remembered. Huki, you said about crashing problem... is the problem that if RV 1.2 is used and 16 players have been written to registry, and then later user switches back to RV 1.1/1.0 then he crashes when starting the game? Or something else? I assume RV 1.2 is fine with 16 players in the registry. I'm trying to gauge if this is a problem that's likely to happen or an obscure one that's not worth doing extra work to get around.

RV 1.2 is also affected by the crashes, and there are also new problems with a NumCars value above 12. Actually, I haven't added support for "16 active racers" as I find even 12 players overwhelming. I have instead added support for upto 16 connections out of which a fixed number of players (between 2 and 12, decided by NumCars field) will be able to race while the others can spectate the race. I could maybe add a safety check on values after getting them from registry, but still, the NumCars field now has a special purpose in multiplayer (to set the maximum number of active racers), so rvhouse writing its "maximum overall connections" value here is a bad idea. Maybe you can save the rvhouse room settings in the ini?

Posted by: Phantom 29 Jun 2011, 08:56 PM
RV House now supports 16 connections! Cool! That's what I have been waiting for. happy.gif

FIXED THINGS (Thankyou!):
Non-english characters like "ñ"; "ó"; etc. are now properly shown. Tested in Spanish, Portuguese and Magyar.
RV House now remembers if you maximized the window in the previous session! Great!
The private message window is now optimized for higher resolutions. It's big for 1024x768, but we can handle it.

NEW BUGS FOUND:
A - If I double click to any section in the Users Panel for example "Chatting", "Away", etc., RV House crashes.

B - I noticed that sometimes the order of these sections are sorted differently than it's supposed to be.
For example, I normally see "Waiting in Room" between Chatting and Playing (which is logical order).
But sometimes I see "Waiting in Room" and "Chatting" at the end, under "Do Not Disturb".

C - If you make a 16 players room and then choose to change to "All Versions", the 16 players number doesn't go back to 12. I don't want to imagine what can happen if somebody starts a race with 16 players in the room with "All versions" on.

D - In previous RVH, when you double click to a player's name to send a private message, the PM window is loaded and you can simply start writing. Now when the PM window appears, I need to make a click on the writing area first before I can start writing, which can be a bit annoying considering that we are used to the old method when the writing bar (|) is loaded automatically in the writing area.
This would be just an optimization, I know. Hope it can be improved too.

Posted by: arto 30 Jun 2011, 05:46 AM
Huki: ok, I'll fix it for next release to use some other place for remembering laps (probably RVH's registry).

I'll remove the Bulgarian translation for next release, unless someone wants to try fixing it by editing the language file. Good to know the other translations work.

Phantom: I'll fix the issues you've raised.



Posted by: arto 1 Jul 2011, 06:04 AM
A short reminder for myself also:

I've done the other changes reported here, except for the following:

- User categories sorting not done. Requires more time to do it correctly.
- Rooms panel column sizes have not been adjusted. If user resized them, the changes are not saved across RV House restarts either. Have to check if it'd be easy to save them.

I haven't uploaded a new version as my Windows compiling environment seems to have been broken somehow.

Posted by: Huki 1 Jul 2011, 01:53 PM
Allow me to add two more funny glitches to the list:

- Any number of rvhouse processes can be open at the same time. (not-so-funny example http://z3.invisionfree.com/Our_ReVolt_Pub/index.php?showtopic=1465&view=findpost&p=10635328).
- When main rvhouse window is closed, any open PMs are still left open, and you're still connected to others.

Posted by: KDL 1 Jul 2011, 02:37 PM
indeed
Process is the way out of "non-cloning".
I almost fell for <somebody>'s trick...

Posted by: Phantom 2 Jul 2011, 07:57 AM
Thanks a lot for fixing all the things reported here.

It feels so much better now.
Let me add just 1 more thing to the pending issues list:
When I select somebody's name (let's suppose to send him a PM), I can't stop selecting that person until I close RV House. The same happens when a room is selected.
In previous versions, I could always stop selecting a person or room by just clicking another area of the program or clicking on that person again, but that's not working at the moment.

Posted by: Huki 2 Jul 2011, 05:01 PM
QUOTE (Phantom @ Jul 2 2011, 12:27 PM)
Thanks a lot for fixing all the things reported here.

It feels so much better now.
Let me add just 1 more thing to the pending issues list:
When I select somebody's name (let's suppose to send him a PM), I can't stop selecting that person until I close RV House. The same happens when a room is selected.
In previous versions, I could always stop selecting a person or room by just clicking another area of the program or clicking on that person again, but that's not working at the moment.

Just a reminder:
- PMs not closing after closing main window is not fixed yet.
- Users with both P2P / Server connection still appear green instead of dark blue.

And another issue:
- The writing box gets inactive after scrolling the chat (with scroll bar / mouse wheel).

Posted by: arto 4 Jul 2011, 09:20 PM
Next batch of fixes released, post again reminder if I missed something:


- Fix: Close main window closes RV House, even if private message windows open
- Fix: users with both P2P / server connection should appear dark blue
- Fix: Message field keeps focus
- Workaround: selected user can be deselected by clicking playing status
- Italian translation
- Sensible defaults for room column widths

Phantom's reported getting rid of user's selection is a bit ugly workaround, but at least you can do it now. Sorry, but I'm starting to run out of time. Unless something urgent comes up, the next update will likely be next year.

Posted by: arto 5 Jul 2011, 08:56 PM
I just update RV House installer to include Dutch translation. Redownload if you're interested.

Big thanks to kajeuter for the work!

Posted by: VaiDuX461 8 Jul 2011, 11:26 AM
I have a problem with RVHouse.

Every time I launch RVHouse and try to connect, I get fatal error with kadc.ini file.
It says:
KadC_start(C:/Program Files/RV House\conf\kadc.ini, 1)returned error 3: overnetinifileread() failed -4

Deleting kadc.ini file fixes this.

Windows XP SP1 with D-Link DIR 100 router.

I don't get that error with older versions.

Posted by: Dave-o-rama 8 Jul 2011, 12:50 PM
same thing happens to me, except it happened once... then every time I try to open Rv House up after, it crashes when I hit login.

Posted by: antonius 8 Jul 2011, 05:55 PM
Same kadc.ini error for me too. It happened just about two or three times (every time I fixed as Vaidux desdribed) and now it seems to be ok.

Posted by: Huki 9 Jul 2011, 05:20 PM
The kadc.ini error could probably be caused by lack of proper of access rights. Tried running rvhouse as administrator?

@arto: Three more bugs to report, so i hope you weren't serious about next year. wink.gif
- Copy (ctrl + c) and other commands don't work in the main chat window, all commands are directed towards the message field.
- Rvhouse flashes only if minimized with the minimize button in title bar, not when minimized by other ways (clicking the icon in task bar, windows key + M, etc).
- The command line shown in Settings -> Advanced always resets to "cmdline" when opening the dialog. This is only a display bug though, as rv is launched with the correct command line anyway.

Posted by: VaiDuX461 9 Jul 2011, 09:16 PM
QUOTE (Huki @ Jul 9 2011, 07:20 PM)
The kadc.ini error could probably be caused by lack of proper of access rights. Tried running rvhouse as administrator?

I can't do that, because I'm already a computer administrator, and using WinXP, not Vista/7.

I opened bad kadc.ini file and it had only one line written, but if you open that works with rvhouse, it has multiple lines with some codes and ip's.

Posted by: antonius 10 Jul 2011, 03:11 PM
Here the -run as admin- option was already enabled, however the bug didnt re presented no more.
Another little issue (I am not sure if it could be called as "issue") is that every first time I open rvhouse after turning on the system, the process takes about 5-6 seconds to load the main window...
After first, all subsequent openings were immediate like older versions

Posted by: arto 11 Jul 2011, 03:43 AM
QUOTE (Huki @ Jul 9 2011, 05:20 PM)
@arto: Three more bugs to report, so i hope you weren't serious about next year. wink.gif
- Copy (ctrl + c) and other commands don't work in the main chat window, all commands are directed towards the message field.
- Rvhouse flashes only if minimized with the minimize button in title bar, not when minimized by other ways (clicking the icon in task bar, windows key + M, etc).
- The command line shown in Settings -> Advanced always resets to "cmdline" when opening the dialog. This is only a display bug though, as rv is launched with the correct command line anyway.

I'll fix at least 1 and 3. The second I'm not sure I can do anything about easily, but I'll test it.

For the copy thing I might have to re-introduce the problem that scrolling the chat view takes focus away from the message field. I'm sure there is a better way, but I don't know if I have time to figure it out. Anyway losing the focus should be lesser evil than not being able to copy.

Posted by: Huki 11 Jul 2011, 04:39 PM
QUOTE (arto @ Jul 11 2011, 08:13 AM)
For the copy thing I might have to re-introduce the problem that scrolling the chat view takes focus away from the message field. I'm sure there is a better way, but I don't know if I have time to figure it out. Anyway losing the focus should be lesser evil than not being able to copy.

Uh-oh. Sometimes the greater evil is also the lesser frustrating. wink.gif How about an alternative implementation, much like mIRC? Click and dragg over the text in main chat, then release the mouse button to automatically copy it.

QUOTE (arto)
- Fix: Close main window closes RV House, even if private message windows open.

Hmm, this bug still exists with the latest release.


Posted by: arto 11 Jul 2011, 08:45 PM
QUOTE (Huki @ Jul 11 2011, 04:39 PM)
QUOTE (arto @ Jul 11 2011, 08:13 AM)
For the copy thing I might have to re-introduce the problem that scrolling the chat view takes focus away from the message field. I'm sure there is a better way, but I don't know if I have time to figure it out. Anyway losing the focus should be lesser evil than not being able to copy.

Uh-oh. Sometimes the greater evil is also the lesser frustrating. wink.gif How about an alternative implementation, much like mIRC? Click and dragg over the text in main chat, then release the mouse button to automatically copy it.

Doesn't seem very intuitive, not very newbie friendly (?). I'll try to see what's easily doable when I have time to get "down on it".

QUOTE

QUOTE (arto)
- Fix: Close main window closes RV House, even if private message windows open.

Hmm, this bug still exists with the latest release.


Peculiar. I'll re-test it in Windows.

Posted by: Huki 14 Jul 2011, 05:10 PM
QUOTE (arto @ Jul 12 2011, 01:15 AM)
QUOTE (Huki @ Jul 11 2011, 04:39 PM)
QUOTE (arto @ Jul 11 2011, 08:13 AM)
For the copy thing I might have to re-introduce the problem that scrolling the chat view takes focus away from the message field. I'm sure there is a better way, but I don't know if I have time to figure it out. Anyway losing the focus should be lesser evil than not being able to copy.

Uh-oh. Sometimes the greater evil is also the lesser frustrating. wink.gif How about an alternative implementation, much like mIRC? Click and dragg over the text in main chat, then release the mouse button to automatically copy it.

Doesn't seem very intuitive, not very newbie friendly (?). I'll try to see what's easily doable when I have time to get "down on it".

I think any way to copy / paste would be better than none. People can always inform new users on how to copy (most of them don't know of ctrl + c anyway). Or another alternative would be to allow right click context menu, with 3 options:
- Copy
- Select All
- Clear (or clear chat / clear window ... )
Don't know how much trouble this would be though.


RVHouse server is down again by the way.
EDIT: Now it's up and running.


Posted by: Huki 3 Aug 2011, 07:08 PM
Server is dead again.

Just a suggestion: with most users having v1.2 installed, the "allow late joining" advanced option should probably be turned on by default.

And I'm sure you remember the other remaining bugs.. smile.gif

Posted by: arto 3 Aug 2011, 09:14 PM
QUOTE (Huki @ Aug 3 2011, 07:08 PM)
Server is dead again.


Should be alive again. The errors I'm getting from the server seem like it can break up for good any day though. If and when that happens, it must be considered whether to move the server to someone else's control or if it's possible to collect donations so that I can buy a new suitable one.

QUOTE

Just a suggestion: with most users having v1.2 installed, the "allow late joining" advanced option should probably be turned on by default.


Okay, I'm totally out of loop what's happening in RV House currently sad.gif. Any objections from anyone of making "allow late joining" the default?

QUOTE

And I'm sure you remember the other remaining bugs.. smile.gif


I'll list the ones I've written down, please remind me if there's some others:


• Copy-pasting (done, selecting automatically copies to clipboard - after my initial reservation I kind of like it)
• Private mesage window stays even after closing app (I have to test this more, thought I had fixed it)
• Players & Laps not correctly resized in Rooms Panel in other languages than english
• Status names not sorted correctly
• RVZ new register limits (done)
• RVZ e-mail address reserved
• RVZT login used -> RVZ login used
Rvhouse flashes only if minimized with the minimize button in title bar, not when minimized by other ways (clicking the icon in task bar, windows key + M, etc). (unclear if I can control this, have to test)
• The command line shown in Settings -> Advanced always resets to "cmdline" when opening the dialog. This is only a display bug though, as rv is launched with the correct command line anyway.

Posted by: Dave-o-rama 3 Aug 2011, 09:30 PM
QUOTE (arto @ Aug 3 2011, 04:14 PM)
Any objections from anyone of making "allow late joining" the default?

No objection here. While you're at it, can you bring back the copy-paste and color... um... personalization features as well?

Posted by: stoney1918 3 Aug 2011, 09:35 PM
No objection here!
Tho maybe instead of buying a new server you should look into replacing internal parts of the server instead if you haven't already.

Posted by: nero 3 Aug 2011, 09:37 PM
QUOTE (arto)
Copy-pasting (done, selecting automatically copies to clipboard - after my initial reservation I kind of like it)

No need to fix what's not broken, I'm sure this will cause problems for me and for others. I'd like it the old fashion way.

QUOTE (arto)
Any objections from anyone of making "allow late joining" the default?

No objection here sir.

Posted by: arto 3 Aug 2011, 10:56 PM
QUOTE (Dave-o-rama @ Aug 3 2011, 09:30 PM)
QUOTE (arto @ Aug 3 2011, 04:14 PM)
Any objections from anyone of making "allow late joining" the default?

No objection here. While you're at it, can you bring back the copy-paste and color... um... personalization features as well?

The copy-paste, as in doing copy to clipboard automatically if text selected in chat, will be there.

The color customization I'm afraid requires a bit more concentration and re-thinking, so that will be on next years agenda. Got my plate full on other things so I have to try and concentrate on "must fix" things for now. Sorry about that.

Posted by: arto 4 Aug 2011, 05:48 AM
QUOTE (nero @ Aug 3 2011, 09:37 PM)
QUOTE (arto)
Copy-pasting (done, selecting automatically copies to clipboard - after my initial reservation I kind of like it)

No need to fix what's not broken, I'm sure this will cause problems for me and for others. I'd like it the old fashion way.

Can you present a use case scenario, where you would want to select text from the chat area without copying it into clipboard?

Fact is I don't right now have the time to do it old fashioned way, it requires more work and experimentation. But I'll get back to it later if there's good reasons.

Posted by: Huki 4 Aug 2011, 04:12 PM
Auto-copy is fine for now. I think it would be nice to automatically deselect the text after copying.

Server is down again, too bad. Now that Stoney has mentioned it, which part of the computer exactly is malfunctioning?
EDIT: working now.

Posted by: Huki 10 Aug 2011, 03:16 PM
Hi again arto.

I was talking to Urne about his server offer. As a beta-tester of Surftown's http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fsurftown.dk%2Fvps, he would be getting the 15MB/s server for free till Feb 2012, and they even cover for electricity and maintenance. Don't know what you think about it yet, but Urne and I see this as a good opportunity to make use of. And it also means we wouldn't have to worry about fixing the old server till next year.

Other than uploading the necessary files, does using the new server involve a simple change in the conf\rvhouse.ini, or something more?

Posted by: jigebren 10 Aug 2011, 04:14 PM
QUOTE (Huki @ Aug 10 2011, 03:16 PM)
... Surftown's http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fsurftown.dk%2Fvps ...

(offtopic) Anybody noticed the Re-Volt pickup alike logo on that page? wink.gif

Posted by: miromiro 10 Aug 2011, 04:21 PM
user posted image
I keep on getting this error every time I log in. If I press "OK" it closes everything. What can I do?

Posted by: nero 10 Aug 2011, 06:29 PM
Delete the kadc.ini.

Posted by: arto 11 Aug 2011, 10:31 AM
QUOTE (Huki @ Aug 10 2011, 03:16 PM)
Other than uploading the necessary files, does using the new server involve a simple change in the conf\rvhouse.ini, or something more?

It shouldn't be anything more than installing the server(s) and changing the configuration.

I'm too hard-pressed with time at the moment that I'm not getting excited with temporary solutions sad.gif. Rebooting the server is an annoyance, but it only takes 2 secs once in a while. Maybe I have some more cash next year and can invest in a new server, that would fix the problems well into future.

EDIT: if you or urne wants to try if the VPS server works with RV House's centralized server, I can send the .exe.

Posted by: Huki 11 Aug 2011, 05:26 PM
QUOTE (arto @ Aug 11 2011, 03:01 PM)
QUOTE (Huki @ Aug 10 2011, 03:16 PM)
Other than uploading the necessary files, does using the new server involve a simple change in the conf\rvhouse.ini, or something more?

It shouldn't be anything more than installing the server(s) and changing the configuration.

EDIT: if you or urne wants to try if the VPS server works with RV House's centralized server, I can send the .exe.

Ah that's good to know.
Sure, we can try how it works.

I know this would only be a temporary solution, but from my experience with re-volt, I'd expect a lot to change in just a few months. wink.gif

Posted by: urnemanden 13 Aug 2011, 09:50 PM
Thank you for the server application, arto! Huki did a little advertizing of the new server and several people was desperate enough to manually change the server adress in the rvhouse.ini to 80.70.4.89. wink.gif

Everything seems to be working like a charm. And as Huki pointed out, we don't know how the situation will be one year in the future. So I would definitely go for a switch even if it is going to be a temporary solution. Of course, others' opinions on this matter are also welcome.

Posted by: arto 17 Aug 2011, 05:24 AM
QUOTE (urnemanden @ Aug 13 2011, 09:50 PM)
Everything seems to be working like a charm. And as Huki pointed out, we don't know how the situation will be one year in the future. So I would definitely go for a switch even if it is going to be a temporary solution. Of course, others' opinions on this matter are also welcome.

Good.

I guess it won't hurt to change as it's now tested to work!

Posted by: nero 17 Aug 2011, 01:57 PM
QUOTE (urnemanden @ Aug 13 2011, 09:50 PM)
Everything seems to be working like a charm.

Your server is was down.

Posted by: urnemanden 17 Aug 2011, 03:37 PM
QUOTE (nero)
Your server is down.

I assume Surftown has been doing some maintenance today. When I remote connected to the server it was still running but without the RV House application, so I believe they must have restarted the server. The RV House application has been added as one of the start-up applications now though, so hopefully the server only appear down when it actually is down.

QUOTE (arto)
Good.

I guess it won't hurt to change as it's now tested to work!

I'm glad to hear that! Out of curiosity, are you planning to release another RV House update in near-time because of this?

Posted by: arto 18 Aug 2011, 12:37 PM
QUOTE (urnemanden @ Aug 17 2011, 03:37 PM)
I'm glad to hear that! Out of curiosity, are you planning to release another RV House update in near-time because of this?

I'll do a release when I've had the time to do the other changes that are on my TODO list. Hopefully soon.

Anyway a little delay is good so that the server's stability gets a little real-life testing. It'd be annoying beyond description to have to do a new release just to change back to the old server smile.gif.

Posted by: arto 31 Aug 2011, 11:41 PM
QUOTE (arto @ Aug 18 2011, 12:37 PM)
QUOTE (urnemanden @ Aug 17 2011, 03:37 PM)
I'm glad to hear that! Out of curiosity, are you planning to release another RV House update in near-time because of this?

I'll do a release when I've had the time to do the other changes that are on my TODO list. Hopefully soon.

Anyway a little delay is good so that the server's stability gets a little real-life testing. It'd be annoying beyond description to have to do a new release just to change back to the old server smile.gif.

New version uploaded.

I have an important thing to say to those who want to keep on using RV House 0.92:

The centalized server has been changed. So if you want to keep on using old RV House you must do some manual editing.

Go to your RV House installation directory (by default C:\Program Files\RV House). Inside there, open for editing the file "conf/rvhouse.ini". Inside there find the section named [net_centralized] and replace the line "server=..." with "server=80.70.4.89".

There you go. Other changes are these:

- Selecting text in chat automaticaly copies to clipboard
- Fixed ordering status (Chatting, Away ...) in users view
- Fixed Settings/advanced to show the command-line
- Rooms view's small columns size set according how much space required by language
- Allowing by default late joining to races (only works with RV 1.2)
- Using new centralized server

Posted by: kajeuter 1 Sep 2011, 07:46 AM
Thankyou Arto! U did great work.

Posted by: Skarma 1 Sep 2011, 11:43 PM
Whenever I try to edit the rvhouse.ini file, it always gives me a message saying access is denied. How can I get around this?

Posted by: arto 2 Sep 2011, 04:43 AM
QUOTE (Skarma @ Sep 1 2011, 11:43 PM)
Whenever I try to edit the rvhouse.ini file, it always gives me a message saying access is denied. How can I get around this?

If RV House is running, close it. Check the file permissions (right-click Properties) that they are not read-only.

Posted by: kajeuter 2 Sep 2011, 08:24 AM
There was 1 bug, when u click a link to a site sometimes, there wont open a browser, but the chat log clears itself. Dont know what causes that.

Posted by: arto 2 Sep 2011, 04:11 PM
QUOTE (kajeuter @ Sep 2 2011, 08:24 AM)
There was 1 bug, when u click a link to a site sometimes, there wont open a browser, but the chat log clears itself. Dont know what causes that.

Woah... the problem is... if there's any way you can reliably reproduce it, let me know.

For example, is it some specific link. Or in some specific location in the text (at beginning, in middle of sentence) etc.

Posted by: kajeuter 2 Sep 2011, 04:39 PM
Well, we were kidding a bit on RVH as usual, and I typed a site that doesnt exist (www.horny-cosmo.org), and there it only happens. Kinda wierd xD

Posted by: arto 3 Sep 2011, 03:31 AM
QUOTE (kajeuter @ Sep 2 2011, 04:39 PM)
Well, we were kidding a bit on RVH as usual, and I typed a site that doesnt exist (www.horny-cosmo.org), and there it only happens. Kinda wierd xD

It happens to you each time you type www.horny-cosmos.org and click on it?

Posted by: kajeuter 3 Sep 2011, 10:20 AM
QUOTE (arto @ Sep 3 2011, 03:31 AM)
QUOTE (kajeuter @ Sep 2 2011, 04:39 PM)
Well, we were kidding a bit on RVH as usual, and I typed a site that doesnt exist (www.horny-cosmo.org), and there it only happens. Kinda wierd xD

It happens to you each time you type www.horny-cosmos.org and click on it?

yes or an other site that doesnt exist

Posted by: Skarma 3 Sep 2011, 11:47 AM
QUOTE (arto @ Sep 2 2011, 03:43 AM)
If RV House is running, close it. Check the file permissions (right-click Properties) that they are not read-only.

Still didnt work for me. Read only was unchecked.

Posted by: Huki 3 Sep 2011, 04:08 PM
@arto: Hmm I don't know if people running 0.93.3 version get the new update prompt in rvhouse (at least I didn't). But the latest version is still listed as 0.93.3 in the http://rvhouse.zackattackgames.com/version.html. Link to the new installer is also mispelt by the way.

@Skarma: http://rvhouse.zackattackgames.com/downloads/rv_house_setup.exe is the fix you need for your problem. smile.gif


Posted by: Skarma 3 Sep 2011, 05:31 PM
This file wont download for me.... at least I dont think so. When I click it, nothing happens.

Posted by: VaiDuX461 3 Sep 2011, 07:29 PM
QUOTE (kajeuter @ Sep 2 2011, 10:24 AM)
There was 1 bug, when u click a link to a site sometimes, there wont open a browser, but the chat log clears itself. Dont know what causes that.

I tested, and it occurs when page link starts with (www.) instead of (http://).

Posted by: urnemanden 3 Sep 2011, 07:47 PM
QUOTE (arto)

New version uploaded.
[...]

Delightful! Hopefully the new server will handle the extra members with ease.

I can confirm what huki spotted. Neither I got one of those dialogs saying that my version was outdated. But perhaps you did that on purpose since this update isn't mandatory?

I can confirm what VaiDuX claims. clicking a link with "www" also blanks the chat log for me.

Posted by: arto 4 Sep 2011, 08:15 PM
QUOTE (Skarma @ Sep 3 2011, 11:47 AM)
QUOTE (arto @ Sep 2 2011, 03:43 AM)
If RV House is running, close it. Check the file permissions (right-click Properties) that they are not read-only.

Still didnt work for me. Read only was unchecked.

I don't know what's going on... you should carefully check the file permissions. Perhaps you installed RV House when your user had somehow other permissions? If all else fails, just uninstall RV House and remove all the files, if necessary as Administrator. Then re-install.

Basically just check the permissions, even the advanced settings and make sure the user you are logged as has appropriate access rights. This is basically a Windows problem, RV House does nothing to the file permissions.


Posted by: arto 4 Sep 2011, 08:18 PM
QUOTE (Huki @ Sep 3 2011, 04:08 PM)
@arto: Hmm I don't know if people running 0.93.3 version get the new update prompt in rvhouse (at least I didn't). But the latest version is still listed as 0.93.3 in the http://rvhouse.zackattackgames.com/version.html. Link to the new installer is also mispelt by the way.

Thanks for pointing that out. I must have been drunk when making that update :-P.

I've corrected those mistakes. Of course notification should come up even as this is not a mandatory update.

I must stress that even as this is not a mandatory update, a mandatory update will be coming due time. So people hanging on to the earlier versions, report the bugs that prevent you from using the newer version. I can't keep compatibility with the earlier versions forever, so it's important (for your sake wink.gif) that I am made aware of the problems so that I can fix them before mandatory update comes.



Posted by: arto 4 Sep 2011, 08:20 PM
QUOTE (VaiDuX461 @ Sep 3 2011, 07:29 PM)
QUOTE (kajeuter @ Sep 2 2011, 10:24 AM)
There was 1 bug, when u click a link to a site sometimes, there wont open a browser, but the chat log clears itself. Dont know what causes that.

I tested it and it occurs when page link starts with (www.), not (http://).

Thanks, this should help me trying to reproduce the problem and fix it.

In the meanwhile, kids, remember correct syntax of HTTP URLs wink.gif.

Posted by: jaseaka 7 Sep 2011, 11:56 PM
new font size option needed.

NORMAL
BIG
BIGGER

Posted by: Huki 8 Sep 2011, 11:22 PM
@jase: You can increase / decrease the font size by pressing ctrl key and rolling the mouse wheel up or down.

@arto: Strangely, I still have any PM windows open after closing the main rvhouse window.

Posted by: jaseaka 9 Sep 2011, 01:54 AM
Thank you!! i guess u probably know i don't read what the features are, i just hit okay and dl the newest version :S

Posted by: arto 9 Sep 2011, 06:43 PM
QUOTE (Huki @ Sep 8 2011, 11:22 PM)
@arto: Strangely, I still have any PM windows open after closing the main rvhouse window.

I forgot to test it in Windows version. Worked fine in Linux. Ah well... I'll try remember to check about it during next update.

Posted by: stoney1918 11 Sep 2011, 08:41 PM
i sometimes get this error randomly when rvhouse has been open for a while. it doesn't affect anything but what does it mean?

http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/3828/rvherroragain.jpg

Posted by: Dave-o-rama 11 Sep 2011, 09:07 PM
QUOTE (stoney1918 @ Sep 11 2011, 03:41 PM)
i sometimes get this error randomly when rvhouse has been open for a while. it doesn't affect anything but what does it mean?

http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/3828/rvherroragain.jpg

Ditto. Except whenever I hit retry, RV House crashes.

Posted by: miromiro 11 Sep 2011, 10:19 PM
C:\Program Files\RV House\conf
Delete the kadc file.

Posted by: stoney1918 30 Sep 2011, 10:40 PM
suggestion time!
i think it should say if the room is v1.2 or not in the room settings in the room list, you know where it lists picks yes/no and stuff. should say v1.2 yes/no.
depending on which option for version is selected in room options.
i'm tired of having rv start after that message pops up, and tired of not knowing if i can play with friends and get my hopes up that the room is 1.2 but isn't. hosts aren't dependable in telling whether or not room is 1.2 in topic.

Posted by: praful 1 Oct 2011, 08:28 AM
I am new to online revolt racing and rv house (though not to revolt). I am behind a network proxy, is there a way to use rv house.



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praful

Posted by: Pranav 1 Oct 2011, 06:51 PM
QUOTE (praful @ Oct 1 2011, 08:28 AM)
I am new to online revolt racing and rv house (though not to revolt). I am behind a network proxy, is there a way to use rv house.



--
praful

Try switching off the firewall when you come to RV house. smile.gif

Posted by: praful 2 Oct 2011, 09:32 AM
network firewall is administrated by my network provider.


--
Praful

Posted by: Pranav 2 Oct 2011, 09:42 AM
QUOTE (praful @ Oct 2 2011, 09:32 AM)
network firewall is administrated by my network provider.


--
Praful

I said windows firewall. smile.gif

Posted by: praful 2 Oct 2011, 10:15 AM
even if I turn off windows firewall i need to pass through the network firewall (network proxy) to get internet access. I was asking weather there was a way to specify the proxy settings in rv house.

Posted by: arto 4 Oct 2011, 03:16 PM
QUOTE (praful @ Oct 2 2011, 10:15 AM)
even if I turn off windows firewall i need to pass through the network firewall (network proxy) to get internet access. I was asking weather there was a way to specify the proxy settings in rv house.

No.

And I don't think Re-Volt supports any proxy settings anyway. It requires direct connection between the players, that's why if you have NAT you have to forward the used ports to come to the machine that is playing. Having some sort of proxy-from-hell by the ISP between clients and internet sounds like a total disaster.



Posted by: EU_Yorrick 6 Oct 2011, 12:55 PM
When I log in to RV House, i see no1 online? but i can make rooms etc.I
s it because RV House is dead?
Or did i do something wrong?

Posted by: miromiro 6 Oct 2011, 01:10 PM
QUOTE (EU_Yorrick @ Oct 6 2011, 02:55 PM)
When I log in to RV House, i see no1 online? but i can make rooms etc.I
s it because RV House is dead?
Or did i do something wrong?

RV House is alive, it's people who are dead.

Posted by: arto 7 Oct 2011, 07:46 PM
QUOTE (EU_Yorrick @ Oct 6 2011, 12:55 PM)
When I log in to RV House, i see no1 online? but i can make rooms etc.I
s it because RV House is dead?
Or did i do something wrong?

Do you have the newest version of RV House? The server used has been changed, so with older versions you will see very empty house indeed as the server is not there.

Posted by: urnemanden 7 Nov 2011, 03:35 PM
Just a small notice to those of you who help new guys from time to time:

When RV House gives you a "Could not launch Re-Volt" error, this isn't necessarily because the path to Re-Volt is missing in the registry. If a Launcher string is existent in the registry pointing to for example WolfR4 and the user happen not to have the WolfR4 executable anymore, this can trigger the error as well.

To sum up, AFAIK Could not launch Re-Volt happens either:
- When Re-Volt hasn't been run at least once before trying to play online over RV House. (No registry entries are created pointing to where Re-Volt is located)
- When the "Launcher" entry inside [HKLM > SOFTWARE > Microsoft > DirectPlay > Applications > Re-Volt] points to a non-existant WolfR4 or similar launcher executable.

Just a FYI from me since I helped a user with that exact issue not so long ago - it was only by accident that I found out about the Launcher entry.


EDIT: Off-topic, but would it be appropriate if Re-Volt 1.2 deleted the launcher entry automatically besides changing Path/Filename entries as usual? That would fix this problem at least.

Posted by: miromiro 12 Nov 2011, 11:23 PM
RV HOUSE CLOSING AUTOMATICALLY
...without me wishing it to. Apparently, sometimes RV House closes from itself, without me exiting manually. It happens while I play something, I enter the game with RV House open and sometimes I don't find it in the Window bar anymore. It also happens when on desktop. It simply closes like when I'd click the red X. What's this?

Posted by: Pranav 14 Nov 2011, 04:17 PM
PERSONAL CHAT ERASES

It happened with me two times. Whenever someone send me a link in personal message at RV house and if i click on it, the whole discussion gets deleted in the personal message window.

Posted by: Dave-o-rama 14 Nov 2011, 08:43 PM
QUOTE (Pranav @ Nov 14 2011, 11:17 AM)
PERSONAL CHAT ERASES

It happened with me two times. Whenever someone send me a link in personal message at RV house and if i click on it, the whole discussion gets deleted in the personal message window.

It's a bug that has something to do with rvhouse not liking links unless they have the http:// in them. For example, www.thislinksucks.com would clear the chat, but http://www.thislinksucks.com would send you to an actual site and leave the chat unharmed.

Posted by: stoney1918 19 Nov 2011, 06:16 AM
Well, I guess now is as good of a time as any to mention this, but when Dave and I are in RVHouse at the same time we both get a bunch of miscellaneous spam that usually looks something like this> http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/8979/davespamproblem.jpg as you can see by the size of the scroll bars there is quite a lot of random garbage and repeating text there. PLEASE let us know if there is something that can be done. Thank you.
more spam: http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/8633/morecrazyserverspazing.jpg
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/2640/hollycrap.jpg

Posted by: Dave-o-rama 19 Nov 2011, 01:35 PM
Stupid browser crashing. Anyway...

I'd like to add that my router's ports are forwarded correctly and that I let RV and RV House through my firewall. However, my internet connection doesn't seem to like RV House much (or being reliable, for that matter.)

Posted by: Phantom 19 Nov 2011, 04:16 PM
We still love you Dave.

Posted by: stoney1918 19 Nov 2011, 07:12 PM
I would also like to add that my router's ports are also forwarded properly, and the windows firewall isn't even turned on.

Posted by: blend 27 Dec 2011, 09:21 PM
Hey there,

Ive been having some problems in getting online play to work, I unlocked all the ports, disabled my virus scanner and firewall, and was ready to play, but it didnt work, just a black screen. I even disabled all the firewall and protection stuff entirely for a few minutes to see if it would work, but nothing. Also tried DMZ...didnt work

Cant seem to get it to work. What else can I try?

My OS is Windows 7 64 Bit, my Revolt version is 1.2 beta...

Thanks!


Posted by: Dave-o-rama 28 Dec 2011, 02:36 AM
Perhaps RVHouse should explain how to set up re-volt or open up the connection docs on the first run for new players. It would probably save them a lot of confusion, if you ask me smile.gif

Posted by: blend 28 Dec 2011, 03:45 PM
tried the alpha today, still doesnt work...please help me to get out of my current noob-state. ;[

Posted by: arto 8 Jan 2012, 03:34 PM
QUOTE (blend @ Dec 28 2011, 03:45 PM)
tried the alpha today, still doesnt work...please help me to get out of my current noob-state. ;[

What alpha?

Posted by: Pranav 8 Jan 2012, 03:51 PM
QUOTE (arto @ Jan 8 2012, 08:04 PM)
QUOTE (blend @ Dec 28 2011, 03:45 PM)
tried the alpha today, still doesnt work...please help me to get out of my current noob-state. ;[

What alpha?

I think he mean the Re-volt 1.2 latest alpha. wink.gif

Posted by: urnemanden 26 Feb 2012, 06:10 PM
Arto, have you considered implemented some sort of Ctrl+F (Find) for the chatlog? That could be pretty useful IMO. smile.gif

Posted by: arto 10 Mar 2012, 07:18 AM
QUOTE (urnemanden @ Feb 26 2012, 06:10 PM)
Arto, have you considered implemented some sort of Ctrl+F (Find) for the chatlog? That could be pretty useful IMO. smile.gif

Considered, but it's pretty low on priority as the text can be copy pasted to editor and searched from there.

Posted by: miromiro 10 Mar 2012, 12:37 PM
What do you want to find with CTRL+F?

Posted by: Dave-o-rama 10 Mar 2012, 01:20 PM
Funny sayings? Relevant links? Stupid quotes? All worthy of having a CTRL+F feature for.

Posted by: Dave-o-rama 11 Mar 2012, 02:58 PM
Apologies for a doublepost, but I've got something to say...

I've gotten a little sick and tired of seeing new players in RV House constantly coming in and asking how the thing works. It seems that these people can't read manuals or something. So, then I went to read the help docs on RV House's site... and... I could barely read them!

Anyway, to cut a long story short, I updated the help docs to RV House because they're roughly 5 years old, and things have changed a bit. arto, would you mind looking these new docs over and putting them on the site? rolleyes.gif

http://www.box.com/s/i66lxazxsxfzesk7kayf

Posted by: arto 11 Mar 2012, 09:08 PM
QUOTE (Dave-o-rama @ Mar 11 2012, 02:58 PM)
Apologies for a doublepost, but I've got something to say...

I've gotten a little sick and tired of seeing new players in RV House constantly coming in and asking how the thing works. It seems that these people can't read manuals or something. So, then I went to read the help docs on RV House's site... and... I could barely read them!

Anyway, to cut a long story short, I updated the help docs to RV House because they're roughly 5 years old, and things have changed a bit. arto, would you mind looking these new docs over and putting them on the site? rolleyes.gif

http://www.box.com/s/i66lxazxsxfzesk7kayf

Thanks a lot Dave for the effort.

I'll try to put your updates online as soon as possible (hopefully within few days).

Posted by: Dave-o-rama 20 Apr 2012, 11:52 PM
QUOTE (arto @ Mar 11 2012, 04:08 PM)
Thanks a lot Dave for the effort.

I'll try to put your updates online as soon as possible (hopefully within few days).

I'd hate to sound like an annoying little kid, but I'm pretty sure it's been more than a few days tongue.gif

Any word on what you're doing with these?

Posted by: arto 22 Apr 2012, 02:08 PM
QUOTE (Dave-o-rama @ Apr 20 2012, 11:52 PM)
QUOTE (arto @ Mar 11 2012, 04:08 PM)
Thanks a lot Dave for the effort.

I'll try to put your updates online as soon as possible (hopefully within few days).

I'd hate to sound like an annoying little kid, but I'm pretty sure it's been more than a few days tongue.gif

Any word on what you're doing with these?

Eh sorry, I promptly forgot all about it. Maybe tonight? Bug me more if I forget,

Posted by: arto 22 Apr 2012, 02:33 PM
Okay I updated the doc. Apologies for the delay. And big thanks dave for updating the docs!

Posted by: jaseaka 29 Apr 2012, 01:57 AM
okay. this is my first real problem i have since using rvhouse. it keeps exiting by itself. none of the usual errors are popping up. the kad something and the ..cast.. something. just closes. started this month.

Posted by: Phantom 29 Apr 2012, 06:09 AM
QUOTE (jaseaka @ Apr 28 2012, 09:57 PM)
okay. this is my first real problem i have since using rvhouse. it keeps exiting by itself. none of the usual errors are popping up. the kad something and the ..cast.. something. just closes. started this month.

Exactly the same for me. Sometimes it exits right after login and other times it exits randomly. It gets fixed when I delete the kadc.ini, but I have to do this twice a month, or maybe more often.

Posted by: nero 29 Apr 2012, 07:43 AM
I have to delete the kadc.ini everytime I turn on my PC.

Posted by: jaseaka 29 Apr 2012, 01:55 PM
okk

Posted by: Skarma 29 Apr 2012, 04:00 PM
This also started happening to me recently but it's only happening on Blue Ghost which is kind've odd. Zombie is totally fine.

Posted by: r6turboextreme 29 Apr 2012, 08:50 PM
Hey, I can't connect to Re-Volt house, the windows works, but i just cant connect to the server. this occurred while being in a race.

I'm using Mac. ninja.gif

EDIT: seems to be working as well.

Posted by: nero 29 Apr 2012, 08:54 PM
Any idea why I was suddenly disconnected off both servers and can't reconnect even after rebooting my PC?

EDIT: Seems to be working now.

Posted by: jackieben 11 Jun 2012, 10:56 PM
QUOTE (nero @ Apr 29 2012, 07:43 AM)
I have to delete the kadc.ini everytime I turn on my PC.

Put "del C:\Path\To\kadc.ini\" in %appdata%\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Startup
as a .bat file
Or alternatively try making various rv house file read-only, it worked out for me

Posted by: VaiDuX461 12 Jun 2012, 11:07 AM
QUOTE (Various people)
...bla bla kadc.ini error bla bla...

Ahh, it's an old problem which still sometimes occurs. Very annoying. (even for me angry.gif)
Yeah, you can try as jackieben said. If I understand, putting file in ...\Startup will launch when windows starts, so it will delete "kadc.ini" everytime you turn on PC, am I right?

Yesterday I wrote a small fix which only deletes that file, you can download it if you want:
http://www.mediafire.com/?l9a9zqek4sfe9yt Just open it and press any key, that's it wink.gif.
It's basically a MS-DOS Batch (works for windows), which deletes that one file. If you have RVHouse installed in default dir, then you will have no problem, if different, you will have to change it (help inside downloaded archive).

Posted by: jackieben 12 Jun 2012, 05:20 PM
QUOTE (VaiDuX461 @ Jun 12 2012, 11:07 AM)
QUOTE (Various people)
...bla bla kadc.ini error bla bla...

Ahh, its an old problem which still sometimes occurs, very annoying. (even for me angry.gif)
Yeah, you can try as jackieben said. As i understand, putting file at ...\Startup will launch when windows starts, so it will delete "kadc.ini" everytime when you turn on PC, am i right?
...

Yeah you're right, it's the same as yours basically

Posted by: jaseaka 26 Jun 2012, 02:18 PM
kadc_start(c:/prgm files/rvh/conf/kadc.ini, return error 3:overnetinifileread() failed -4.

and rvh closes. i've been just unistalling and re-installing to get rvhouse to work. after i shut down at night i get error again when trying to run rvh.

Posted by: Balint12 20 Aug 2012, 05:59 PM
I don't know if this belongs here, but I'd like to share.

A guy has been hacking rvhouse. He entered in the name of Stingox a several times, talking pooh (like "I'm gay"). Just letting you know...

Posted by: VaiDuX461 20 Aug 2012, 06:25 PM
QUOTE (Balint12 @ Aug 20 2012, 07:59 PM)
A guy has been hacking rvhouse. He entered in the name of Stingox a several times, talking pooh (like "I'm gay"). Just letting you know...
HAXXX!!!
Actually that's bad thing, ban these mother***kers.

Btw, I can launch a few RV House instances and connect with same login, when holding enter key, about 10 copies runs without message of "RVHouse is already running" and that means, i can make my "zombie army". Of course, to do that, rvhouse mustn't be running. (I think that also could depend on PC speed, mine is slow th_banghead.gif )

Posted by: arto 21 Aug 2012, 04:55 AM
QUOTE (Balint12 @ Aug 20 2012, 05:59 PM)
I don't know if this belongs here, but I'd like to share.

A guy has been hacking rvhouse. He entered in the name of Stingox a several times, talking pooh (like "I'm gay"). Just letting you know...

Is his name as red?

Posted by: arto 21 Aug 2012, 04:58 AM
QUOTE (VaiDuX461 @ Aug 20 2012, 06:25 PM)
Btw, I can launch a few RV House instances and connect with same login, when holding enter key, about 10 copies runs without message of "RVHouse is already running" and that means, i can make my "zombie army". Of course, to do that, rvhouse mustn't be running. (I think that also could depend on PC speed, mine is slow th_banghead.gif )

Yes, the detection is really basic and things like that are very possible. It could be made more robust with a little work but I don't see much point in it. Behave people smile.gif.

Posted by: Balint12 21 Aug 2012, 09:39 AM
No, his name wasn't red. Totally the same as stingox, only that he spoke nonsense (which isn't far from stingox either tongue.gif )

Posted by: arto 22 Aug 2012, 04:38 PM
QUOTE (Balint12 @ Aug 21 2012, 09:39 AM)
No, his name wasn't red. Totally the same as stingox, only that he spoke nonsense (which isn't far from stingox either tongue.gif )

Well I have to say that RV House has very trivial protection against such abuse. I expect people to behave. There is always the "ban that guy" option which I'm somewhat a fan of when people do abuse. Post here time and dates of the fake appearances and I'll see if something can be done to it.

Posted by: mmudshark 16 Oct 2012, 06:01 AM
I've been having a little problem with an error message popping up every few days and it brings me back to the desktop when I am racing.
Any idea how I can fix this?

user posted image

Posted by: Phantom 16 Oct 2012, 03:53 PM
Exactly the same one here. I took this screenshot in August, forgot to post it before. It's on Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit here. mmud's one is on Windows 7 32-bit.

user posted image
What it does? It cause RV House to stop working.
When pressing "Abort" button, RV House closes completely.
When pressing "Retry" or "Ignore" button, RV House will close its main window but a rvhouse.exe process will keep on memory, so until you close it with the Task Manager, RV House can't be opened again.
Frequency: once or twice per day.

Posted by: Skarma 17 Oct 2012, 12:05 AM
You know, clicking the ignore button makes it go away...

Posted by: mmudshark 17 Oct 2012, 12:17 AM
QUOTE (Skarma @ Oct 17 2012, 12:05 AM)
You know, clicking the ignore button makes it go away...

Yes it does, but the annoying part is having my race paused as it boots me back to desktop. I click "Ignore" and then reopen Revolt and a bunch of people have passed me. I have enough trouble winning a race. laugh.gif

(Win7 32 bit btw, not XP)

Posted by: Phantom 27 Nov 2012, 03:54 AM
Many users have been reporting that RV House isn't working normally in the last weeks. If someone has these problems frequently, pls confirm that not only happens for us. The common problems we've been experimenting are:

1. Nicknames in red color because the central server didn't respond when users log in. One day we had half of the users in red color.

2. Not being able to connect to P2P Network. This problem is happening more frequently now than ever did according to the people reporting, also for me.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/104051213/ScreenShot012.jpg

3. The famouse Kadc.ini crashing RV House problem. Which doesn't let you login unless you remove it from RV House/conf but this quick-fix doesn't fix the problem permanently.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/104051213/ScreenShot019.jpg

I think that some of the problems might be more related to the server than RVH.
Thanks to david312 for the screenshots.

Edit:
This is the error that RV House drops before closing randomly:
user posted image

Posted by: Abc 2 Dec 2012, 06:28 AM
Tweak with rvhouse.ini: Debug mode is good (or at least for me, rvh seems more stable now)


arto: please start fixing RVHouse recent bugs/glitches
KADC problem (implement auto clear on exit or something) {it uses \data\contact.dat and conf\kadc.ini (it's all specified in conf\rvhouse.ini)
www. Glitch
WER on Centralized Connected/Connecting
Random WER


is Centralized = [net_serverless]? (i disabled that and it worked, but i was alone xD)

(not really a bug): when someone's nick couldn't be validated login problem/red nick, it's because RVZT's SQL has failed (ideas how to prevent this?)


Regards
Abc wink.gif

Posted by: arto 4 Dec 2012, 07:46 AM
QUOTE (Phantom @ Nov 27 2012, 03:54 AM)
1. Nicknames in red color because the central server didn't respond when users log in. One day we had half of the users in red color.


This is not about central server, but a problem with the account validation. In this case it means RVZT did not answer. Does Zach has any idea, has there been some problems recently in the server?

QUOTE

2. Not being able to connect to P2P Network. This problem is happening more frequently now than ever did according to the people reporting, also for me.


It's a wonder it has even worked this long. The P2P network used (by KadC library) is Overnet. Those old enough may remember eDonkey filesharing network. Overnet was eDonkey's P2P. Due to the nature of P2P networks, the less people using it the harder to join is, and I'd imagine the amount of people using eDonkey nowadays is quite small.

The correct solution would be to start using some other P2P library than KadC. However that's quite a bit effort.

QUOTE

3. The famouse Kadc.ini crashing RV House problem. Which doesn't let you login unless you remove it from RV House/conf but this quick-fix doesn't fix the problem permanently.


As I wrote above, KadC should be replaced. Fixing KadC is probably more effort than it's worth since it should be replaced anyway.

For the time being perhaps it would be best to disable the P2P mode altogether and only use centralized server. But Abc said that some people are having trouble connecting to the centralized server, like it couldn't handle all the people. The centralized server is running on a virtual server that Urnemanden graciously put up when my own server died. Does Urnemanden have any idea why the centralized server wouldn't handle the load now?

Posted by: Phantom 4 Dec 2012, 08:51 AM
I see, fixing KadC is not the right thing to do then, the real solution is finding a good alternative soon or either disabling P2P completely. I still wonder why the crashes after trying to login are everytime more frequently. I tried using Revo Uninstaller on RVHouse a few times and I have to say it was only a temporary solution. The crashes still persist until reinstalling RVH again.

On another hand, P2P Network was the only way we could see each other when your server started dying last year, so it was useful back then. I'm not sure if disabling it completely is a better idea than finding a nice replacement.

Those people connected to P2P only are the ones in light blue, right?
Well, we see people in light blue sometimes as you can see in this picture:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/104051213/RV%20House/RV%20House.png

Urne still didn't say anything if his server had any problems, I doubt he knows about this yet.

PS: are you going to have some free time in the next holidays for the pending hotfixes?
I still have a cute bugs list waiting for you. rolleyes.gif

Posted by: urnemanden 4 Dec 2012, 12:41 PM
QUOTE (arto)
Does Urnemanden have any idea why the centralized server wouldn't handle the load now?


No idea. I am actually quite surprised that I still have access to this server as I thought I only had 1 years free hosting at Surftown. Well, that 1 year ran out almost a year ago but fortunately for RV House the hosting doesn't seem to have stopped. That's a whole other subject though.

QUOTE (Phantom)
Those people connected to P2P only are the ones in light blue, right?
Well, we see people in light blue sometimes as you can see in this picture:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/104051213/RV%20House/RV%20House.png

Urne still didn't say anything if his server had any problems, I doubt he knows about this yet.

I have not experienced issues with connecting to the server myself and do not know if those who cannot connect to the server are the same IP adresses or if it really is based upon how many already are connected to the server.

Since the server program runs as a service I am neither sure how to check if the server software is outputting any errors. I might try look further into this later though.

PS: @Phantom, those icons look quite nice in RV House. Mind sharing them? smile.gif

Posted by: Phantom 4 Dec 2012, 02:29 PM
QUOTE (Urnemanden)
I am actually quite surprised that I still have access to this server as I thought I only had 1 years free hosting at Surftown. Well, that 1 year ran out almost a year ago but fortunately for RV House the hosting doesn't seem to have stopped.

Whoa, RV House does really have some lucky touch, doesn't it? ^^

QUOTE (Urnemanden)
QUOTE (Phantom)
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/104051213/RV%20House/RV%20House.png

PS: @Phantom, those icons look quite nice in RV House. Mind sharing them?

I was planning to wait until next RV House release, but since it seems that will take more than expected I might make a pre-release before.
It's just some free pngs collection i gathered with some Photoshop tunning.
Some people on RV House are already using the new Icon Set and they like it. smile.gif

Posted by: RafSTer 4 Dec 2012, 10:47 PM
Sometimes as with many users, my rvhouse randomly crashes Namely, Phantom, Sb017, me and it is more lilkely to happen when im in private chat or even do not disturb mod and even happens in main chat room but less often. I can do it 2-3 times in 5 mins or it can not do it at all for 2 hours. While I play it seems stable it doesnt crash not that I can remember. But yes its happening. I suggest you come take a look when u got that chance, thx.

(Also, remember when I spoke to u about the feature that you could edit the border colors and the text? and maybe add smileys idk only suggestions)
Cya soon,
hope to get some news.

Posted by: arto 5 Dec 2012, 08:53 AM
QUOTE (Phantom @ Dec 4 2012, 08:51 AM)
On another hand, P2P Network was the only way we could see each other when your server started dying last year, so it was useful back then. I'm not sure if disabling it completely is a better idea than finding a nice replacement.


Of course finding a nice replacement would be better than disabling it completely. I'm a big fan of the P2P functionality as then RV House is not reliant on any server.

But who has time to implement the replacement? I at least don't have the time for the foreseeable future. While I have abstracted the underlying P2P implementation from RV House's code as much as possible, you will still need to write a wrapper that implements the interface exposed by libdht. It's not as trivial as it may sound like.

QUOTE
PS: are you going to have some free time in the next holidays for the pending hotfixes?


In holidays surely not. That's for family time. But before and after the holidays there's more chances. I am willing to put some time into looking into the fatal errors like crashing, and disabling P2P or whatever that is making RV House usage hard. But first the problems have to be identified, and determined if they're something on RV House (and what there, is it KadC problem or something else), or in Urne server, or perhaps RVZT.

Posted by: arto 5 Dec 2012, 08:55 AM
QUOTE (RafSTer @ Dec 4 2012, 10:47 PM)
Sometimes as with many users, my rvhouse randomly crashes Namely, Phantom, Sb017, me and it is more lilkely to happen when im in private chat or even do not disturb mod and even happens in main chat room but less often. I can do it 2-3 times in 5 mins or it can not do it at all for 2 hours. While I play it seems stable it doesnt crash not that I can remember. But yes its happening. I suggest you come take a look when u got that chance, thx.

If you want me to take a look, you will need to send me RV House's log file after the crash has happened.

Posted by: Phantom 5 Dec 2012, 03:59 PM
Reinstalled RV House 3 minutes ago, it crashed 2 minutes ago.
PM window was open at the moment of the crash. I was talking with benvoliosaythat.

I compressed my RV House folder except img, lang & doc, dunno if it's what you need:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/104051213/RV%20House/RV%20House.rar

Posted by: arto 5 Dec 2012, 04:43 PM
QUOTE (Phantom @ Dec 5 2012, 03:59 PM)
Reinstalled RV House 3 minutes ago, it crashed 2 minutes ago.
PM window was open at the moment of the crash. I was talking with benvoliosaythat.

I compressed my RV House folder except img, lang & doc, dunno if it's what you need:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/104051213/RV%20House/RV%20House.rar

Debug logging is off, so this is no use to me. I don't remember if I disabled in one of the later versions debug logging by default as it was causing problems.

But now that problems have to be debugged all who are willing to try finding the problems should enable it.

Do do it open:

C:\Program Files\RV House\conf\rvhouse.ini

Near the beginning of file it has section like this:

CODE

[log]
debug=0


Change it to

CODE

[code]
[log]
size=2000
debug=1
; Remove comment below if logging into file is required.
file=log/rvhouse.log


And restart RV House

The logs will come to directory

C:\Program Files\RV House\log\

Posted by: RafSTer 5 Dec 2012, 06:13 PM
I give you news if it crashes again. But hey, maybe it could be more stable if rvhouse connected thru revolt irc channels

Border colors what happened with that ?

Posted by: RafSTer 5 Dec 2012, 06:25 PM
I don't know if you remember this dude Named Zeqmacaw, he created a program called Jklauncher used for Jedi Knight Dark Forces 2 which was on msn gaming zone and it connects thru 3 irc channels at once; the 3 active ones for Jk, stable.
If you are curious http://www.jkhub.net/project/show.php?projid=47 btw this is only a suggestion so keep that in mind. smile.gif

Posted by: Phantom 5 Dec 2012, 06:57 PM
It crashed again, so this is the log after reinstalling RVH and appling debug mode 1:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/104051213/RV%20House/RV%20House.rar

This time there was no PM window open, just the main chat we were talking.
Important note: This crash did NOT prompt any KadC file error message. This was a random suddenly crash like the ones Raf explained. I haven't seen the http://dl.dropbox.com/u/104051213/RV%20House/Visual%20C%2B%2B%20Error.png in a few days.

Posted by: arto 5 Dec 2012, 08:10 PM
QUOTE (Phantom @ Dec 5 2012, 06:57 PM)
It crashed again, so this is the log after reinstalling RVH and appling debug mode 1:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/104051213/RV%20House/RV%20House.rar

This time there was no PM window open, just the main chat we were talking.
Important note: This crash did NOT prompt any KadC file error message. This was a random suddenly crash like the ones Raf explained. I haven't seen the http://dl.dropbox.com/u/104051213/RV%20House/Visual%20C%2B%2B%20Error.png in a few days.

Thanks,

pretty weird but the .rar file you posted did not have any rvhouse.log file. Are you sure you had restarted RV House after changing debug=1 ?

Anyway, there was kadc.log and it's last lines seemed to be cut short:

CODE

Returning 26 peers as result
Lookup for key hash returned 26 hits in 14 seconds
Logd = 120 184.32.179.168 23303
Logd = 120 213.125.64.90 11343
Logd = 122 184.32.179.168 23303
Logd = 1


This implies, but does not prove, that it might have been KadC code crashing.

Posted by: Abc 5 Dec 2012, 08:26 PM
hmm, i think phan reinstalled after crash so he deleted the logs without knowing.....

Posted by: Phantom 5 Dec 2012, 08:38 PM
QUOTE (arto @ Dec 5 2012, 04:10 PM)
pretty weird but the .rar file you posted did not have any rvhouse.log file. Are you sure you had restarted RV House after changing debug=1 ?

Yes I'm sure I added debug=1 while RV House was closed, and then I opened RVH and after normally waiting a few minutes the crash appeared. RVH was closed automatically without prompting any error messages and I proceeded to submit the files.

Is it supposed to appear in RV House\log folder or in another place?
Cuz I sent you log, data and conf folders.

QUOTE (Abc)
hmm, i think phan reinstalled after crash so he deleted the logs without knowing.....

Of course not. There's still no file with that name created in RVH directory atm.

Posted by: arto 5 Dec 2012, 10:18 PM
Geezus ****ing christ... It's too long since I looked at RV House code.

I'm sorry for incomplete instructions - nowadays by default the debug log is not written to file. So you need to add where to write the file or else it goes to console. I will update the original posting, but here's the update. Modify rvhouse:ini like this:

CODE

[log]
size=2000
debug=1
; Remove comment below if logging into file is required.
file=log/rvhouse.log


Posted by: Phantom 6 Dec 2012, 05:26 AM
The log creates successfully after removing the ";" symbol from rvhouse.ini.

This is the log after aproximately 4-5 crashes, one after the other, there is approximately a 1-2 minutes difference between each one of them.
This type of crash is the same from above posts described by Raf: It doesn't show KadC error message, it occurs randomly and once it starts it's repeated very oftenly for about 5-10 minutes until you end up reinstalling RV House, which makes it stable again for some hours (maybe days?).

And it doesn't happen for everyone. cristian1 told me that never happens for him, but for AVS, Rafster, sonkite, me, others it happens exactly in the same way described above^.

Anyways:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/104051213/RV%20House/RV%20House%202.rar

Posted by: arto 6 Dec 2012, 09:28 AM
QUOTE (Phantom @ Dec 6 2012, 05:26 AM)
This is the log after aproximately 4-5 crashes, one after the other, there is approximately a 1-2 minutes difference between each one of them.


Thank you for the logs. Unfortunately the logs do not seem to capture the points of the crash, or do not give any hints of it.

The logs fill up very quickly (this catches just few minutes of running time), so it'd be important to copy them immediately after a crash before starting RV House again.

But it's good to hear that the crashing happens so regularly, as it makes finding the problem more likely.

This still sounds to me like KadC problem. Can you try using it without KadC, if the crashing goes away like that. Modify rvhouse.ini to be like this:

CODE

[net_serverless]
ip=
disable=1
ip_site=http://checkip.dyndns.com/
port=2301


And restart RV House. Again, if crashes happen please send me the logs. And let me know whether crashes happen.

Thanks.

Posted by: nero 7 Dec 2012, 05:44 PM
And that's why you stick with 0.92.3...

Posted by: Phantom 8 Dec 2012, 12:04 AM
Been using RV House with KadC off since you told me, there were no crashes at the moment (2 days), debug mode is on just in case I get one.

What meaaans.... ----> KadC related crashes like we supposed.


The only bad side of this is that I'm green all the time which means I can't see the people which generally are in light blue (Dogma_Chip, halo_one, Cosmo_Kramer, Touriga) even if I know they are connected.

Also some people seem to disconnect from server but they still are on RV House, so I don't see them for some minutes and when they connect again, their status shows they've been in RV House for 128 minutes for example.

This just to say that P2P network might be more important that I thought, and disabling it completely might not be the best solution.

Posted by: arto 8 Dec 2012, 06:46 AM
So... we should live with the crashes for now because KadC is too important to disable at the moment?

And the server has troubles, so we should try to replace it with some other server? I suspect the server problems are related to what Urnemanden said, that they gave free support for one year. I suspect it has now reduced capability after the year has passed.

Posted by: urnemanden 8 Dec 2012, 03:12 PM
QUOTE (arto)
And the server has troubles, so we should try to replace it with some other server? I suspect the server problems are related to what Urnemanden said, that they gave free support for one year. I suspect it has now reduced capability after the year has passed.

Is there any way we can properly identify that the issue is server-side and what the exact issue is? Does RV House spit out any information regarding that in debug mode?

Tonight I will check how much memory the server is using and what its current internet speed is. I know that on a activity-less afternoon the service is using no more than 16MB memory.

Also, when someone experience issues connecting to the server, please try see if it is possible to ping it. The IP and port can be found in the RV_house.ini inside /conf/.

EDIT: Right now (21:56 gmt+1) it takes up 18MB RAM and there is 2000MB available physically. The internet speed is 71Mbps download and 63 Mbps upload.

Posted by: arto 9 Dec 2012, 05:00 AM
QUOTE (urnemanden @ Dec 8 2012, 03:12 PM)
QUOTE (arto)
And the server has troubles, so we should try to replace it with some other server? I suspect the server problems are related to what Urnemanden said, that they gave free support for one year. I suspect it has now reduced capability after the year has passed.

Is there any way we can properly identify that the issue is server-side and what the exact issue is? Does RV House spit out any information regarding that in debug mode?

RV House does put out quite a lot of debugging information regarding connection. But whether that will help pinpoint the issues is another matter.

Frankly it is a bit of a hard problem to determine the exact reason. However, if the problems with the server started just some months ago, the best guess I have is that they relate to the "1 year free period" ending.

I don't think it's anything to do with memory usage. I'd guess something network related. Limited number of connections? Somehow more unreliable network... It's really hard to say. It could be the clients have bad connection to the server.

I remember there was talk about the need to restart the server every once in a while. I don't remember if this was implemented?

Posted by: urnemanden 9 Dec 2012, 03:38 PM
QUOTE (arto)
I remember there was talk about the need to restart the server every once in a while. I don't remember if this was implemented?

I managed to find out how to run the RV House service as a system service meaning that even though I log out of the remote controlled session, the service will continue to run. So this should not be necessary anymore.

Posted by: RV_Passion 9 Jan 2013, 11:11 PM
Can someone please tell me, how I allow Firewall to open all connections for re-volt and rvhouse? How I set up the Protocol, Ports, Source/Target and Direction?

But principally, under what menus I find this all and how to do it step by step?

I just have no idea what I should do. I have no idea about Firewall! sleep.gif

Posted by: arto 10 Jan 2013, 09:53 PM
Thanks to aryo_adhi we now have Indonesian translations for RV House. To install go to http://rvhouse.zackattackgames.com/index.php?section=downloads and follow the instuctions in the "Language files" section.

Posted by: Phantom 30 Jan 2013, 10:06 PM
2 new more house logs. I got the first crash one 1 minute approx after reinstalling RV House, and the 2nd crash approx 3 minutes after the 1st one.

I saved both logs:

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/104051213/RV%20House/Logs/RV%20House%201.zip

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/104051213/RV%20House/Logs/RV%20House%202.zip

Posted by: arto 31 Jan 2013, 03:14 PM
QUOTE (Phantom @ Jan 30 2013, 10:06 PM)
2 new more house logs. I got the first crash one 1 minute approx after reinstalling RV House, and the 2nd crash approx 3 minutes after the 1st one.

I saved both logs:

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/104051213/RV%20House/Logs/RV%20House%201.zip

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/104051213/RV%20House/Logs/RV%20House%202.zip

Thanks,

I see you have P2P/KadC on, which probably has caused these problems. If crashing can be reproduced without the P2P part, then it's something that can be investigated.

Trying to figure out bugs in KadC is not worth the effort, it should be replaced with a more modern implementation.

Posted by: Phantom 31 Jan 2013, 05:00 PM
I see.
Yep, with KadC Off I get no errors / crashes, which means RVHouse is internally fine. Just the P2P network is failing. This week has been mess in crashing terms for everyone again. Happens every 5 minutes.

Let's hope the KadC replacement can come soon. If anybody is willing to help with this please throw your ideas. We need someone who knows what to put in replacement to kadc and how to do it. Sorry I can't help with programming stuff. happy.gif

Posted by: arto 31 Jan 2013, 09:09 PM
QUOTE (Phantom @ Jan 31 2013, 05:00 PM)
Let's hope the KadC replacement can come soon. If anybody is willing to help with this please throw your ideas. We need someone who knows what to put in replacement to kadc and how to do it. Sorry I can't help with programming stuff. happy.gif

While I'm not able to put in the time for this myself at the moment, I'm more than happy to give help by providing instructions and pointers to whoever is willing to take on this task.

I have a pretty good idea what needs to be done, but I just lack the time to do the hard work to research and implement it.

And let me say (if I haven't said it already), that this is highly interesting stuff... Creating services that do not require any server. It worked well for somewhile, but now we need a new P2P network to use. And it's going to be very interesting seeing how it works with a more popular service. I'm excited already thinking about it smile.gif.

Posted by: Phantom 2 Aug 2013, 03:13 AM
Urne's central server is dead? Or just temporary down?

Posted by: arto 3 Aug 2013, 04:06 PM
QUOTE (Phantom @ Aug 2 2013, 03:13 AM)
Urne's central server is dead? Or just temporary down?

You tell me? Is it still unavailable?

Posted by: sebr 3 Aug 2013, 04:17 PM
QUOTE (arto @ Aug 3 2013, 04:06 PM)
QUOTE (Phantom @ Aug 2 2013, 03:13 AM)
Urne's central server is dead? Or just temporary down?

You tell me? Is it still unavailable?

still unavailable ...

take a so long time trying to connect before tell us that it disconected

Posted by: arto 4 Aug 2013, 12:40 PM
I could connect to the windows machine. I restarted centralized server. Works now?

Posted by: sebr 4 Aug 2013, 03:34 PM
works now biggrin.gif

Posted by: arto 11 Aug 2013, 11:47 PM
I know this doesn't interest anyone, but for full disclosure latest RV House sources aren't anymore hosted in sourceforge, but here:

https://github.com/ajalkane/rvhouse

Posted by: Phantom 16 Aug 2013, 11:12 PM
Give a kick to the damn server again. smile.gif

We're light blue since few days.

Posted by: arto 18 Aug 2013, 08:01 PM
QUOTE (Phantom @ Aug 16 2013, 11:12 PM)
Give a kick to the damn server again. smile.gif

We're light blue since few days.

Seems like I can't connect anymore to the virtual server.

Urnemanden will try later tonight. I will try again tomorrow if needs be.

Posted by: Phantom 18 Aug 2013, 08:15 PM
Okidoki. Thanks. smile.gif

We are thankful that P2P is working flawlessly. No crashes anymore, or maybe 1 every 2-3 weeks.

Posted by: urnemanden 18 Aug 2013, 09:02 PM
I cannot seem to connect to the server either and the support forum seemed to have been raided by spambots. I have contacted Surftown Support for now - will receive a reply in a few days. smile.gif

Posted by: urnemanden 20 Aug 2013, 03:37 PM
I received a reply from Surftown now. They told me that they are experiencing problems with the host servers - problems which are not worth it to solve. So they are currently in the process of setting up a new solution for all active servers including the RV House server.

I was told that I could expect the new solution ready for usage by next week. Until then, let's be happy about how stable the P2P network is these days! wink.gif

Posted by: Stingox 22 Aug 2013, 08:49 PM
I cannot connect to rvhouse, not even with p2p connection for the past week

Posted by: Skarma 24 Aug 2013, 10:18 PM
When will our beloved centralised server return to us?

Posted by: sebr 25 Aug 2013, 09:46 PM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqO0Kuw8sic[/youtube]
like Skarma said we miss it ...

Posted by: arto 25 Aug 2013, 10:06 PM
QUOTE (sebr @ Aug 25 2013, 09:46 PM)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqO0Kuw8sic[/youtube]
like Skarma said we miss it ...

Lagging in race has nothing to do with RV House centralized server. Centralized server is only used while chatting in RV House and setting up the games. Once you're in the game, the data communication is all between participants - not with the centralized server. Host of the race is the one making most of the difference.

With that out of the way, as urnemande said, hopefully during next week centralized server is up-and-running. Time to pray.

Posted by: Phantom 28 Aug 2013, 08:42 AM
QUOTE (sebr @ Aug 25 2013, 05:46 PM)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqO0Kuw8sic[/youtube]

Oh. My. God. I thought the lag engine was improved, wasn't it?

Posted by: Balint12 28 Aug 2013, 09:39 AM
But let's be honest... SebR always had periods when he was very very very laggy, so it could be his connection too.

Posted by: VaiDuX461 28 Aug 2013, 10:16 AM
Is it the latest v1.2 alpha fault for more lag. I've noticed it's more intense than before, easily noticeable when you late join and spectating players. I've never seen like that with older builds.

Posted by: Phantom 28 Aug 2013, 11:08 AM
Call 911 Huki then.

I don't understand how it it can work so well on 1 patch and then get ruined so easily in the next one.

Posted by: sebr 28 Aug 2013, 06:42 PM
It's true, my connection was particulary crapy all that day... dry.gif
it was the only 1 time i had (big) lag with last build

Posted by: Stingox 28 Aug 2013, 07:46 PM
Does anyone here have success logging in to Rvhouse?
I have been cut off from the online scene for about a month now

Posted by: Skarma 28 Aug 2013, 08:29 PM
We all do...

Posted by: arto 28 Aug 2013, 08:35 PM
QUOTE (Stingox @ Aug 28 2013, 07:46 PM)
Does anyone here have success logging in to Rvhouse?
I have been cut off from the online scene for about a month now

Have you registered in RVZ? Since the change from RVZT to RVZ, you need to create account to RVZ. And confirm it by e-mail. RV House nowadays uses RVZ's user database to do the authentication.

Posted by: Stingox 29 Aug 2013, 07:57 PM
I had it installed and working until I think i made a reinstallation. Since then it is not working. I have the No More Tea edition, but cant enter http://rvhouse.zackattackgames.com/

Posted by: sebr 29 Aug 2013, 08:01 PM
QUOTE (Stingox @ Aug 29 2013, 07:57 PM)
I had it installed and working until I think i made a reinstallation. Since then it is not working. I have the No More Tea edition, but cant enter http://rvhouse.zackattackgames.com/

try http://revoltzone.net/ biggrin.gif

will be better

Posted by: Balint12 29 Aug 2013, 10:00 PM
Hehhhe Stingox, you missed so many things smile.gif

Posted by: Phantom 30 Aug 2013, 08:42 AM
I remember Urnemanden had a limited period to use Surftown's VPS service, and after that we are going to need another server or buy a new one for arto.

So in case the server reaches this limit what are we going to do?
I've been recommended Host1Free, it's probably the only one who offers a VPS for free. It is aimed for young developers and students who can't afford a commercial VPS. Maybe someone with more knowledges can check it out if it's worth to keep it as an alternative.

Posted by: Balint12 4 Sep 2013, 05:53 PM
Has anyone any idea, why everyone is marked wtih " r" (or rather, not an original r, but it's a bit downwards from the other letters) in the main chat? I mean where it says 'xy has entered' and these stuffs. The names are correct on the list on the right though. I don't know if it has anything to do with it, but my RVHouse is set to German language.

EDIT: Also, the room names are marked in the main chat as ' r' too, whatever their actual names are. Again, it's correct on the upper side, on the room list.

Posted by: Phantom 9 Sep 2013, 12:49 AM
@Bálint: doesn't happen here. try reinstalling rv house.

QUOTE (revoltrace chat)
benvoliosaythat: is somebody can explain me about Rv House .. i would like make better the connexion .. i can host Rv House if necessary on my server .. before my server hosted www.revoltrace.com .. i can host Rv House


House looks like a cementery without a server...

Posted by: urnemanden 12 Sep 2013, 04:54 PM
Since I haven't heard from support in a few weeks I asked them for an update - they replied to me today that they were still working on the new solution and that they were sorry about the downtime. No estimations on when the new solution will be up and running again.

Posted by: Phantom 16 Sep 2013, 04:51 AM
QUOTE (RTT-Pigasque)
Hi all (again from a long time),

I made a mistake creating my new account on the new RVZ site wacko.gif
I entered "Pig@sque" as pseudo ...
But RV-house don't accept specials caracters in pseudo and I can't log to it huh.gif

What can I do ???

Posted by: Skarma 16 Sep 2013, 01:22 PM
Use "Pigasque" instead?

Posted by: Pawulon 4 Oct 2013, 01:43 PM
I can't connect to central server through RV House, is it still down? In Wireshark I can see that I'm connecting to 64.71.35.13 which replies with RVH related stuff.
It seems, that it sends readme/changelog of RV House as HTTP reply.

Posted by: Phantom 6 Oct 2013, 08:42 PM
QUOTE (Phantom @ Sep 8 2013, 08:49 PM)
benvoliosaythat: is somebody can explain me about Rv House .. i would like make better the connexion .. i can host Rv House if necessary on my server .. before my server hosted www.revoltrace.com .. i can host Rv House

House looks like a cementery without a server...

Or noboby cares about playing online anymore..

And people don't see each other..

Then nobody wants to connect...

And we get no answers here or there..

And people are looking for alternative lobby launchers..

And why don't we start looking for an alternative server..

Posted by: Stingox 10 Oct 2013, 06:23 PM
I only have success login once every week...

Posted by: Phantom 14 Oct 2013, 04:34 AM
Will RV House stay like this forever?????

Can't we start looking for a new server or everyone just accepted the fact that people don't see each other and that most players can't connect at all? It is so embarrasing! This looks like a dead community and dead program. Can't we do anything???

Posted by: benvoliosaythat 17 Oct 2013, 01:38 PM
What i need to do .. TO PUT :

- RVHOUSE on my own server

- RVZT pn my own server

What i need to do to put Things like before, tell me and i ll do it.

Thx for your FAST answer !

ps : i email arto .. 5 min after this


Posted by: benvoliosaythat 17 Oct 2013, 02:01 PM
Mail sent ..

Posted by: Skarma 17 Oct 2013, 09:28 PM
Why RVZ?

Posted by: Phantom 18 Oct 2013, 12:21 AM
Another report:

QUOTE
sticky_rabies: Well I can't log into RVHouse anymore. Apparently my router settings changed, but they have not. I might not play anymore...


Let's cross fingers and don't lose hope.

There may be a solution earlier than expected. Well done ben!!

Posted by: arto 31 Oct 2013, 10:23 PM
Good news, everyone (Professor Farnsworth impression)!

We have a new RV House server secured by urnemanden. Until a proper RV House release is available, please try it by doing this:

Open your RV House configuration file (default installation location C:\Program Files\RV House\conf\rvhouse.ini)

Modify inside section [net_centralized] to read
server=5.231.52.232

Let me know if it works or not... if it works alright I will make a new proper RV House release.

Thanks to urnemanden for securing the server and to benvoliosaythat who investigated a backup plan to secure us another server if this one won't work!

Posted by: nero 1 Nov 2013, 12:00 AM
I can't connect to it. I've modified the .ini correctly. I've opened every single necessary ports. I've disabled the firewall. My router isn't blocking it last time I checked.

Anyone got any ideas as to what the problem could be?

Edit: Uninstalling Hamachi solved the problem for me.

Posted by: Mladen007 1 Nov 2013, 10:34 AM
I can connect to it with no problem.

Posted by: urnemanden 1 Nov 2013, 11:14 AM
Just installed RV House again and decided to work a bit on an icon. So might as well share it in case some of you are looking for something else as well:

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Posted by: Phantom 2 Nov 2013, 06:47 AM
I take the chance to share the Icon Pack i've been using since some time.

Before you ask, a Help icon is included because i had the ridiculous idea to update the help center into something easier to understand for newbies containing step-by-step instructions for most of the routers i know, and the RVR icon is there because i thought of integrating the links of the rvr sections like B3L, B4L, Month Tracks and R-League into rv house top menus so people can access all the tournaments altogether directly from rvhouse top menus. That obsolete 'competitions' menu needs an update afterall. This could have been included in RVHouse v93.5 but since arto didn't have the time to do all the bugfixes that rv house needs in order to be called 'heaven edition' or post-zombie era, it has been postponed.

Anyway, it's free to download by clicking the blue button below.
To use it just extract all the content of the pack into your ProgramFiles\RVHouse folder.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/104051213/RV%20House/RV%20House%20Heaven%20Icon%20Set.rar

Preview:

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Main RV House Icon:

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Special thanks to Scott Copeland for the RVHouse icon and MarvTheM for improving the waiting-in-room icon.

Posted by: dnjsrb35 2 Nov 2013, 08:20 AM
I like really nice RV House icon

Posted by: arto 2 Nov 2013, 10:48 PM
RV House has been packaged and updated! Next time you start RV House there should be notification to update.


Posted by: Mladen007 2 Nov 2013, 11:08 PM
Nice job,fits well with windows vista. thumbs-up.gif

Posted by: mmudshark 3 Nov 2013, 12:03 AM
Thanks for the updated house Arto, and for the new icon set Phan.
(Also thanks to Urne for getting the server!)

Posted by: Dave-o-rama 4 Nov 2013, 12:46 AM
I'm really liking the new icon set, Phan. After over 6-ish (!) years of the old icons, I think a change can only be a good thing, no?

Posted by: tucika 4 Nov 2013, 06:47 PM
Nice one! I have the feeling that I just downloaded a next-gen RVHouse smile.gif

Posted by: nero 14 Dec 2013, 11:46 PM
The latest version crashes on a regular basis for everyone. Fix it as soon as you can.

Posted by: Vabi 17 Dec 2013, 01:12 PM
Hello,

where can i get the proper version of RV house, and what should i do to connect to the best rv house server? (Europe, GMT+1)

Posted by: Phantom 17 Dec 2013, 07:53 PM
Hello Vabi,

The only place to get RV House nowadays is in this website:
http://rvhouse.revoltzone.net/

If you're european, the best time to join is 7PM GMT approximately.
Don't expect many players. There are around 10-20 users connected every day of the week.

Remember this is a chat+play program, so some people come to play online, others only for chatting. Please don't expect everyone to be playing all the time because this is not the case.
Some new members usually complain about this.

Also, you will have to do 2 things to join multiplayer games:
1 - Open some ports in your Modem-Router. A sampe picture can be found https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/104051213/Routers/05754774754221689041.png.
If you don't do this, your router will block the game when trying to join online games.

2 - Update the game to the newest version available. Patch 1.2 can be found here:
http://rv12.revoltzone.net/

I hope to see you around. We'll be waiting for you. smile.gif

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Posted by: }!{enR 27 Dec 2013, 05:21 PM
RV House has just been working at the background, and then...
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Please fix it, Arto. wink.gif

Posted by: arto 27 Dec 2013, 10:46 PM
QUOTE (}!{enR @ Dec 27 2013, 05:21 PM)
RV House has just been working at the background, and then...
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Please fix it, Arto. wink.gif

That is KadC crash. This topic has plenty of references on that.

There's really nothing simple I can do, but if you want you can disable P2P connections and it won't happen anymore.

Posted by: Phantom 28 Dec 2013, 10:20 AM
QUOTE (arto @ Dec 27 2013, 06:46 PM)
There's really nothing simple I can do

Not even for 2015? smile.gif

We can live with it, but a permanent fix would be nice for many people.

Posted by: arto 19 Jan 2014, 06:22 PM
QUOTE (Phantom @ Dec 28 2013, 10:20 AM)
QUOTE (arto @ Dec 27 2013, 06:46 PM)
There's really nothing simple I can do

Not even for 2015? smile.gif

We can live with it, but a permanent fix would be nice for many people.

Nothing simple even in 2015, but who knows maybe I get motivated and have time for something complex. You never know.

Perhaps it's best to disable the P2P connection from rvhouse.conf. Then this problem won't happen. We seem to have pretty stable centralized server now.

Posted by: Phantom 19 Jan 2014, 06:29 PM
QUOTE (arto @ Jan 19 2014, 02:22 PM)
Perhaps it's best to disable the P2P connection from rvhouse.conf. Then this problem won't happen. We seem to have pretty stable centralized server now.

You mean disabling it completely by default? P2P is very helpful sometimes, and it's working fine now. The server works fine too, but there are big shutdowns very often, and people tend to disconnect from it every few minutes and the only way to chat with them is when they are light blue, meaning P2P is the only way we can see some users.

The crashes aren't so big to require an obligatory turn off of the P2P network for everyone. Maybe the best is to wait until you have time and motivation to improve RVHouse.

Posted by: Phantom 1 Feb 2014, 05:38 AM
Centralized server is down since 31/01.

Who is hosting the central server nowadays? Is it Urne or Arto? or external company?

Thanks god P2P works.

Posted by: arto 3 Feb 2014, 12:27 PM
QUOTE (Phantom @ Feb 1 2014, 05:38 AM)
Centralized server is down since 31/01.

Who is hosting the central server nowadays? Is it Urne or Arto? or external company?

Thanks god P2P works.

It's Urne's account, and he has to each month "confirm it's in use" by an e-mail form. I wonder if it has been forgotten to be done?

I'll try to access the server...

Posted by: arto 3 Feb 2014, 12:33 PM
QUOTE (arto @ Feb 3 2014, 12:27 PM)
QUOTE (Phantom @ Feb 1 2014, 05:38 AM)
Centralized server is down since 31/01.

Who is hosting the central server nowadays? Is it Urne or Arto? or external company?

Thanks god P2P works.

It's Urne's account, and he has to each month "confirm it's in use" by an e-mail form. I wonder if it has been forgotten to be done?

I'll try to access the server...

The VM was for some reason stopped. I started it again, and now it seems to be running okay.

Posted by: Phantom 14 Feb 2014, 10:55 PM
For those constantly getting an IP Detected: Failed error in the last week, you can fix it by changing the website that gives you the IP in the RV House Settings file.

Go to your RV House folder, open conf, and then open rvhouse.ini
Find a line called ip_site and change the default address (http://checkip.dyndns.com/) by this one:

http://www.checkip.org/

And you won't get the error anymore! smile.gif

Posted by: gazzz 25 Feb 2014, 08:23 PM
Arto, know that the server is just down.

Posted by: Kipy 25 Feb 2014, 08:23 PM
Hey arto.
Today I tried join to RVHouse, but it taken a long time, because the server is down again. It's simply a report. Just said rolleyes.gif

Posted by: arto 2 Mar 2014, 08:50 PM
Thanks for the reports.

The host had been down for some days. Today I checked it, and it was functional again so I restarted RV House server. Should work now again.


Posted by: Kipy 2 Mar 2014, 10:43 PM
Correct. It works fine again, thank you very much! smile.gif

Posted by: Balint12 13 Mar 2014, 10:30 AM
I would like to point out a bug, where in German language, instead of the players' names, it always writes just an "r".
Like: "r has joined the room" (of course in german)


EDIT: Another one: my RVHouse stops working (crashes) quite frequently. I simply get an error message: The program stopped working.

Posted by: Kipy 19 Mar 2014, 02:34 PM
Ahoy!
I guess the server is down again huh.gif

Posted by: arto 23 Mar 2014, 10:02 PM
QUOTE (Kipy @ Mar 19 2014, 02:34 PM)
Ahoy!
I guess the server is down again huh.gif

Sorry for the long response time sad.gif.

The server was down (no idea why), but I've restarted it.

Posted by: Kipy 25 Mar 2014, 12:14 AM
QUOTE (arto @ Mar 23 2014, 10:02 PM)
QUOTE (Kipy @ Mar 19 2014, 02:34 PM)
Ahoy!
I guess the server is down again  huh.gif

Sorry for the long response time sad.gif.

The server was down (no idea why), but I've restarted it.

Don't worry, we are happy that you fixed it, thank you biggrin.gif

Posted by: Kipy 4 Apr 2014, 08:52 PM
A simple question.
It is a common issue for me, that I log in to house and it kicks me in the first minute always.. why? blink.gif

Posted by: Kipy 15 May 2014, 05:53 PM
ARTO, can u make abc blacklist again? he still doing useless hackings again with name Juest dry.gif

Posted by: Abc 16 May 2014, 09:11 AM
Kipy: Screw you.
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Oh Hello there
it's RST, yay

Posted by: Mladen007 16 May 2014, 08:58 PM
Arto, please ,ban this guy forever

Posted by: Abc 16 May 2014, 10:13 PM
this is going deja vu all over

Bring Platform to the Martix

Posted by: Balint12 17 May 2014, 09:23 AM
Seriously, Abc... again?
I beleived you you weren't that pathetic little child anymore, who found a more anonym and technical way to express his "inner beauty", than torturing little animals.
Guess I was wrong... sad.gif

Posted by: Abc 19 May 2014, 06:46 AM
QUOTE (Balint12 @ May 17 2014, 05:23 AM)
Seriously, Abc... again?
I beleived you you weren't that pathetic little child anymore, who found a more anonym and technical way to express his "inner beauty", than torturing little animals.
Guess I was wrong...  sad.gif

LMAO. Screw you, mfer. you're just in my DDoS blacklist.


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EDIT: man, this sucks, now i have to keep open rvhouse all the time, zach somehow "fixed" rvhouse authentication in a way i cant access (maybe i could without being online or "blacklisting" login server)

Posted by: MightyCucumber 11 Oct 2014, 08:16 PM
Mladen's been helping me out with this port-forwarding ordeal, but I don't always get online at the same time he does - so I'm kinda lost sometimes and have to rely on shitty web tutorials. Not to mention our modems aren't the same, there's obvious differences in what he tries to guide me and what I actually find.

So I've print-screened (ugh, is that even a word?) some parts of my little odyssey so you guys can tell me if I'm doing stuff the right way (and if I'm not, correct me smile.gif )

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Posted by: MightyCucumber 11 Oct 2014, 08:16 PM
And now I get this?... this is ridiculous, no wonder few people dare to go through with playing online. *facepalm*

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Help anyone? This is seriously watering me off, ugh. dry.gif

Posted by: Phantom 11 Oct 2014, 08:37 PM
RV House and its bugs.. a neverending story. I'll give you a hand.

Posted by: MightyCucumber 11 Oct 2014, 11:20 PM
Phantom helped me out with this, and it turns out the ports needed are 2300-2400 TCP/UDP and 47624 TCP/UDP. Just though I'd highlight that because like me, many players must have been portforwarding the wrong ports all this time.

As it stands now, the RV House's router/firewall help page is obsolete and outdated. This should be fixed to prevent new and old players alike from configuring their ports the wrong way...

I've been part of this community ever since the original game came out, almost 15 years ago (not always actively in the forums), and only now I gathered willpower to go through this ordeal of portforwarding and all that stuff. This scares away potential new online players, sadly enough - if a newcomer doesn't even know how many versions of the game there are, how to you expect them to have the hard work of configuring ports to play online? Not everyone knows a lot about computers, especially young kids who are rediscovering this awesome game, much like we discovered it when we were little.

This must have been asked countless times, but isn't there a better method to connect and get RV House working and doing everything manually?...

Posted by: Abc 12 Oct 2014, 03:11 AM
No, RVHouse needs a full rewrite, currently it uses the "old" way, standard ports and DirectPlay loobies, P2P library sucks and it still uses registry data to detect the game, and the ports info are in RVR Help, RVH "firewall help" and even in a MS page (DirectPlay ports one).

please read my guide also, and rvr help got that info too smile.gif

Posted by: Phantom 12 Oct 2014, 06:51 AM
Agree that it needs a full rewrite. Or at least an update to fix bugs. Otherwise it is condemned to demise in its current state. It's no surprise that fewer and fewer people use RV House these days. I've been using GameRanger for a long time now to play with my group of friends and it's absolutely easy to set things up there. The only thing new players need is the 1.2 patch and they're ready to play, nothing else.

New people care about simplicity, if it's not simple they just won't play online and they are right, and sometimes it looks like the admins in this community don't see this or don't agree with the concept. Setting things up via RV House is nothing but a pain in the bottom. If you're not a developer or if you don't have a good friend that has the time and advanced knowledge to help you, you can just forget about playing online via RV House. Now that the new Re-Volt Zone registration is also restricting many new people to create accounts, RV House looks like a small bunker with a death wish.

Posted by: MightyCucumber 13 Oct 2014, 06:24 PM
Hey Phantom, little help here: this window pops open sometimes (not in the modem you configured though - well at least yet).

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Is there something wrong or is it just RV House being buggy?

Posted by: Abc 13 Oct 2014, 11:14 PM
QUOTE (MightyCucumber @ Oct 13 2014, 02:24 PM)
Hey Phantom, little help here: this window pops open sometimes (not in the modem you configured though - well at least yet).

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Is there something wrong or is it just RV House being buggy?

You're behind a NAT and thus can't access P2P, that is decentralized network, it pops because of unable to connect, probably ISP doesn't allow p2p (peer to peer)
Did you allow RVH in firewall?

Posted by: Phantom 19 Dec 2014, 10:09 PM
Central server down. When was it supposed to die definitely? Next year?

Posted by: Abc 20 Dec 2014, 01:19 AM
Where's Benny and Arto!?

Finally the sh**thouse dies!

Posted by: arto 24 Dec 2014, 06:43 PM
QUOTE (Phantom @ Dec 19 2014, 10:09 PM)
Central server down. When was it supposed to die definitely? Next year?

Up again.

Posted by: arto 24 Dec 2014, 06:44 PM
QUOTE (Kipy @ May 15 2014, 05:53 PM)
ARTO, can u make abc blacklist again? he still doing useless hackings again with name Juest dry.gif

Sure if it's necessary. Sorry I didn't notice this before. But if he's still a problem it can be done again.

Posted by: RV_Passion 24 Dec 2014, 07:03 PM
Hey, it's nice to see you here again arto. smile.gif Do you want still make an update on rvhouse or is there nothing what you can make better?

Btw, merry christmas arto! biggrin.gif

Posted by: Kipy 24 Dec 2014, 10:23 PM
QUOTE (arto @ Dec 24 2014, 06:44 PM)
QUOTE (Kipy @ May 15 2014, 05:53 PM)
ARTO, can u make abc blacklist again? he still doing useless hackings again with name Juest  dry.gif

Sure if it's necessary. Sorry I didn't notice this before. But if he's still a problem it can be done again.

Don't do that, he seems ok now (yet)

Posted by: Phantom 25 Dec 2014, 06:39 AM
Thanks for turning the server up again and merry christmas.

May I ask what are your current thoughts about RV House? Should we wait for a peaceful demise or wait for an update?

Posted by: Asdam 5 Jan 2015, 03:42 AM
Hey, not to seem ungrateful (being that I just made this account now for the purpose of posting this) but the RVZT server is down again... I recently had a wave of nostalgia come over me for some LAN re-volt and would like to spark that back up if possible.

out of curiosity, is the server having like... funding issues? Is interest dwindling? I'm not sure what to make of the forum's current activity level.

Thanks in advance!

-Asdam

Posted by: arto 5 Jan 2015, 09:33 AM
QUOTE (Asdam @ Jan 5 2015, 03:42 AM)
Hey, not to seem ungrateful (being that I just made this account now for the purpose of posting this) but the RVZT server is down again... I recently had a wave of nostalgia come over me for some LAN re-volt and would like to spark that back up if possible.

It's running. Anyone else having problems?

Posted by: arto 5 Jan 2015, 09:35 AM
QUOTE (RV_Passion @ Dec 24 2014, 07:03 PM)
Hey, it's nice to see you here again arto. smile.gif Do you want still make an update on rvhouse or is there nothing what you can make better?

Btw, merry christmas arto! biggrin.gif

I'd like to make an update, but it seems unlikely I have time to dig into it anytime soon

Late merry christmas to everyone and happy revolting new year smile.gif!

Posted by: Phantom 5 Jan 2015, 10:53 PM
By the way, who owns or has the right to edit rvhouse.revoltzone.net? Arto/Zach/Huki?

Posted by: arto 6 Jan 2015, 09:48 AM
QUOTE (Phantom @ Jan 5 2015, 10:53 PM)
By the way, who owns or has the right to edit rvhouse.revoltzone.net? Arto/Zach/Huki?

Zach.

In theory I should have rights also, but there was some access rights problems.

Posted by: kajeuter 8 Jan 2015, 02:38 PM
QUOTE (arto @ Jan 5 2015, 09:33 AM)
QUOTE (Asdam @ Jan 5 2015, 03:42 AM)
Hey, not to seem ungrateful (being that I just made this account now for the purpose of posting this) but the RVZT server is down again... I recently had a wave of nostalgia come over me for some LAN re-volt and would like to spark that back up if possible.

It's running. Anyone else having problems?

No, since you did the reset everything seems to be fine.

Posted by: Kipy 15 Feb 2015, 11:22 AM
The server is down again.
PMs can't work properly, I get empty PMs from rv_house. And players can write after they exit (picture below).

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Posted by: sebr 22 Feb 2015, 01:54 PM
Server still down ...
Is it dead ? huh.gif

Posted by: Abc 22 Feb 2015, 08:45 PM
QUOTE (sebr @ 22 Feb 2015, 09:54 AM)
Server still down ...
Is it dead ? huh.gif

^^

The app sucks, P2P sucks, when will this be changed!?

Posted by: arto 22 Feb 2015, 09:16 PM
QUOTE (Kipy @ 15 Feb 2015, 11:22 AM)
The server is down again.
PMs can't work properly, I get empty PMs from rv_house. And players can write after they exit (picture below).

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The VPS went down due to some sort of attack. I have just restarted the server.

If it's not working in within hour or so, let me know and I'll look more into it.

Posted by: arto 22 Feb 2015, 09:20 PM
QUOTE (Abc @ 22 Feb 2015, 08:45 PM)
The app sucks, P2P sucks, when will this be changed!?

It'll be changed anytime you have time to work on it. The sources for RV House are out there under GPL license so that the Re-Volt community has the future of RV online gaming in its own hands. So please change it to how you like and provide patches.

Much appreciated and thanks in advance!

Posted by: jigebren 22 Feb 2015, 10:15 PM
QUOTE (arto @ 22 Feb 2015, 09:20 PM)
QUOTE (Abc @ 22 Feb 2015, 08:45 PM)
The app sucks, P2P sucks, when will this be changed!?

It'll be changed anytime you have time to work on it. [...] So please change it to how you like and provide patches.

+1
Perfect answer, arto. One will soon realize that providing an effort oneself is not as easy as asking someone else to do the job, and that's it is easy to criticize, but hard to act. Oh, and suddenly, one will lower its level of requirement... rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Phantom 22 Feb 2015, 10:30 PM
If you still want to race when the server is down sebr, just go to GameRanger. People have been playing there a lot and they seem to be moving, so don't need to do anything abc.

Posted by: Abc 22 Feb 2015, 10:50 PM
QUOTE (Phantom @ 22 Feb 2015, 06:30 PM)
If you still want to race when the server is down sebr, just go to GameRanger. People have been playing there a lot and they seem to be moving, so don't need to do anything abc.

+1
GameRanger is a better option than killing self by coding a new rvhouse!

Posted by: Manmountain 22 Feb 2015, 11:02 PM
Could some supply some specific details about GameRanger,
ie : Where is it ?
What OS do I need ?
What do I need to do to ensure my system and Network/Router will allow me to play ?
Any other details ?

Thanks. smile.gif

Posted by: Abc 22 Feb 2015, 11:20 PM
QUOTE (Manmountain @ 22 Feb 2015, 07:02 PM)
Could some supply some specific details about GameRanger,
ie : Where is it ?
What OS do I need ?
What do I need to do to ensure my system and Network/Router will allow me to play ?
Any other details ?

Thanks.  smile.gif

http://gameranger.com
Any os works
All the information you are looking for is in the site basically.
it supports a wide range of games, runs on Mac and Windows.
Any router with UDP 1600 open just works (it uses a VLAN "hack") having dmz or game ports opened is better and preferred tho smile.gif but the point is that it requires less than rvhouse or any standard non-NAT aware program.

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QUOTE (arto @ 22 Feb 2015, 05:20 PM)
QUOTE (Abc @ 22 Feb 2015, 08:45 PM)
The app sucks, P2P sucks, when will this be changed!?

It'll be changed anytime you have time to work on it. The sources for RV House are out there under GPL license so that the Re-Volt community has the future of RV online gaming in its own hands. So please change it to how you like and provide patches.

Much appreciated and thanks in advance!

Sorry, I still don't have the programming skills yet and not much time for that.

Posted by: Kipy 22 Feb 2015, 11:30 PM
I am still for RVHouse and against GameRanger.

Posted by: Abc 22 Feb 2015, 11:33 PM
QUOTE (Kipy @ 22 Feb 2015, 07:30 PM)
I am still for RVHouse and against GameRanger.

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Posted by: Manmountain 22 Feb 2015, 11:37 PM
QUOTE (Abc @ 22 Feb 2015, 11:33 PM)
QUOTE (Kipy @ 22 Feb 2015, 07:30 PM)
I am still for RVHouse and against GameRanger.

-censored- angry.gif

I'm still for RVHouse (Arto rules yeah.gif )
But as yet untested GameRanger.
I was quite a fan of GameSpy back in the day... tongue.gif

Posted by: Abc 22 Feb 2015, 11:45 PM
QUOTE (Manmountain @ 22 Feb 2015, 07:37 PM)
QUOTE (Abc @ 22 Feb 2015, 11:33 PM)
QUOTE (Kipy @ 22 Feb 2015, 07:30 PM)
I am still for RVHouse and against GameRanger.

-censored- angry.gif

I'm still for RVHouse (Arto rules yeah.gif )
But as yet untested GameRanger.
I was quite a fan of GameSpy back in the day... tongue.gif

Call gameranger a replacement of GS. GameSpy Arcade Admins have moved to GameRanger and have their full support! smile.gif

Posted by: mmudshark 10 Mar 2015, 06:19 AM
ETA: Back to square one as 6 hours later it is back to not connecting to P2P again on 64 bit version.
That's rather annoying as I thought it was fixed!
The question now is why would it work for a few hours and then quit working again?

I've been having a problem connecting P2P in RV House for a couple of days. A few others have been having the same issue.
I have Win7 32 bit and Win7 64 bit installs. When I boot to the 32 bit system it always connects as it should, but the 64 bit install quit working properly. I can still race in house, but P2P never connects so I don't see everyone in the room.

I checked router, firewall, re-installed house and everything else I could think of but everything seems to be set properly.
What fixed the problem today was copying the full RV House folder from the 32 bit OS and replacing the 64 bit OS RV House folder with it. When I start RVH it fully connects on both systems now.

I then compared each file in the working and non-working RV House folders that I have and the only file that is different is the kadc.ini. My question is what exactly does the kadc.ini file do?

Thanks

I still like House better than GameRanger. smile.gif

Posted by: kajeuter 10 Mar 2015, 09:56 AM
Both work fine for me. However, Ido prefer RV_House. I think it works a bit better.

Posted by: Abc 10 Mar 2015, 02:46 PM
QUOTE (mmudshark @ 10 Mar 2015, 02:19 AM)
I then compared each file in the working and non-working RV House folders that I have and the only file that is different is the kadc.ini.  My question is what exactly does the kadc.ini file do?

P2P Library is called KADC, the ini its the p2p "config", contacts folder is the peer list that kadc reads.

P2P connectivity is very flaky and its more a luck-like system

Posted by: mmudshark 10 Mar 2015, 10:13 PM
UPDATE:

I can get back to fully connected on the 64 bit version if I copy the 32 bit RV House folder and overwrite the 64 bit system's RV House.
Close rvhouse, copy the rvhouse folder from the system that works, and paste it and overwrite the files on the non-working system. Reenter house and it's blue.
If I close house and reenter, I'm sure it will be green again though.
Santi started having the same problem and this fix works for him too. I need to find out WHY this is happening and get a permanent solution.

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