Snagla Grobspit Or Goblin Big Boss On Spider?

I often fight VC's with tons of ethereal units, and was given some advice that I should try using big bosses with magical weapons to deal some damage. fielding a unit of 20 spider riders, I decided I would add someone on a gigantic spider in there to tip the scales a tad. Here's what I came up with:

Bogtator Razzaz- Goblin Big Boss On Gigantic Spider W/: 119 Points
• Light Armour
• Enchanted Shield 2+ to armour save
• Shrieking Blade Causes Fear (so I won't have to take a fear test
• Dawnstone re-roll failed armor saves

However, the problem is that I fight empire more than I fight VC's, and whilst browsing through the codex I found out that Snagla Grobspit would give my entire unit hatred for empire, fear, and devastating charge! the only problem would be the ambushers special rule, which never seems to work out when I've seen it in play with ogre gorgers.

would adding the big boss who causes fear into the unit of spider riders make them cause fear to, like how the crown of command would make an entire unit stubborn if one character is? is it better to go for all round survivability rather than situational damage dealing? please let me know and thank you for reading.

The gigantic spider causes fear already, so there's no need of giving him the shrieking blade .

Well, I do love the boss on gigantic spider, but not in a unit of any kind. He won't get a look out sir, and he need his mobility to target warmachines. I would say that a gigantic spider boss with dragon helm and maybe a luck stone is a great choice! He's cheap enough to sacrifice in the race for his warmachines.

The fast cav can take out emperial warmachines on their own as well. Wolfriders with shields are the best, w. 4+ armor and M9. units of five really rush him and are fantastic cheap diverters as well...

I don't think either of the two cavalry special characters are worth it, though they might be fun. In smaller games they might work though.

Snagla grobspit might work if you couple him with a couple of NG shaman to ensure that you get sneaky stabbing off! Sad that his devastating charge doesn't aid the spiders, as these are the ones carrying the poison.

It does work on the spiders? It gives Devastating charge to his entire unit, that means both rider and mount.

A little bit off topic but I would like to ask a few questions about wolf riders. So would you suggest wolf riders are superior to spider riders? they are much faster and have fast calvary, but they don't have poison or the ability to navigate through forests and buildings.

Furthermore, if I take wolf riders, I would equip them with bows and spears. I know Gitilla Da Hunta gives wolf riders the quick to fire special rule and 1+ ballistic skill, which can be crucial. would you recommend say 15 wolf riders with Gitilla? I have a spare Ghazak Khan Model I could use for Gitilla and I could order some 40k space wolf fernasian wolves for mounts. Just a few thoughts.

I love the look and fluff of Wolf Riders but I find it hard to justify either Wolf or Spider riders in any tournament competitive list really if that's what you mean.

A little bit off topic but I would like to ask a few questions about wolf riders. So would you suggest wolf riders are superior to spider riders? they are much faster and have fast calvary, but they don't have poison or the ability to navigate through forests and buildings.

Furthermore, if I take wolf riders, I would equip them with bows and spears. I know Gitilla Da Hunta gives wolf riders the quick to fire special rule and 1+ ballistic skill, which can be crucial. would you recommend say 15 wolf riders with Gitilla? I have a spare Ghazak Khan Model I could use for Gitilla and I could order some 40k space wolf fernasian wolves for mounts. Just a few thoughts.

Personally I prefer the movement (including Vanguard) of the Wolf Riders and whatever army list I build I look at it as 120pts less then the true total (so a 1500 roster has 1380 pts ect) the first two units I place on the roster are 2 units of 5 Wolf Riders with Spears and Shields, this never changes.

I play in a no special/named character environment so can't really comment on the effectiveness of Gitilla/Grobspit, however I don't really think that 14-15 wolf riders with Gitilla would be effective even with the improvement that he gives the unit. If you can get off a couple of magical buffs on the unit (Armour Piercing and Posion) then I could see more of a use for it but thats not garunteed to happen and personally think that other units would typically benefit from those buff's a little better then the unit you have specified.

However if you play with an all Goblin army I could see the uses of this unit if charging in combination with a couple of Chariots for SCR to the chariots impacts

Neither are good, really. Snagla isn't good because Spider Riders can't fight, and Gittila is almost good but he fails because of his low LD (makes panic checks risky since wolf riders are outside LD bubble a lot) and animosity, which can force you you into making a horrrriiibbbllleee charge into something nasty and have a big, expensive unit killed off just like that.