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 Multiple Combat Questions
Selenn01
Posted: Jul 8 2012, 08:45 AM


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Hey guys,

It's me again smile.gif

I have some questions regarding multiple combats. We had a game last night which ended in a mega multiple combat (7 different unit were participating rolleyes.gif ) Here is a pic with the position of all the units.

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At the end of turn 3 I lost combat by 7 so i had to roll double 1’s for my break tests which I, of course failed to pass Censored.gif. At first I turned the fleeing units in a 180° angle from the unit they were facing and ran (as you do in normal one vs one combat). But then we checked the rulebook which states that you need to flee in the opposite direction of the most numerous unit (in this case Men at arms). So all my units were fleeing towards my side of the table.

The problem was, if you look at the pic, the two units of knights of ther realm were facing each other. How are you supposed to pursue in that case ?

My second question is about staying in combat or not. The rightmost knights of the realm unit was playing first and did casualties to my big uns. As you remove casualties from the rear rank, when it was the turn of the knights of the realm on the left , they were no longer in combat (they charged in the back of the big uns). We played that they move forward a bit to be in combat again and same for the black orcs (they charged in the back of the left knights of the realm unit wink.gif). Did we play it correctly ? Or should the knights have stayed out of combat ?

Thanks in advance for your help!
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Paiant Slapah
Posted: Jul 8 2012, 02:46 PM


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If I read the rules correctly, it doesn't matter if the knights are facing each other. They would pivot to face the direction of the fleeing unit they decide to pursue. Overlapping of the units is now permitted when pursuing or fleeing when making the pivot.

The question I have is, wouldn't the blorcs, chariot and the lancers (I'm assuming NG spearmen?) flee from the knights they are engaged with? Overall it is a multiple combat, but those particular units are not in a base to base multiple unit contact like the big uns.

And another question, you said 'most numerous'. I don't know if you meant ranks or models, but you flee from the one with the most ranks. From the picture, if it is somewhat to scale, it looks like the knights have more ranks than the men at arms (only need 3 models in a lance formation to count as a rank).

Your second question- I would play it like you did, but I wouldn't know if it was correct or not either. If we couldn't agree on how to handle that situation, then it would be determined by a dice roll.
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Selenn01
Posted: Jul 8 2012, 04:14 PM


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QUOTE (Paiant Slapah @ Jul 8 2012, 04:46 PM)
If I read the rules correctly, it doesn't matter if the knights are facing each other.  They would pivot to face the direction of the fleeing unit they decide to pursue.  Overlapping of the units is now permitted when pursuing or fleeing when making the pivot. 

Thanks for that info!

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The question I have is, wouldn't the blorcs, chariot and the lancers (I'm assuming NG spearmen?) flee from the knights they are engaged with?  Overall it is a multiple combat, but those particular units are not in a base to base multiple unit contact like the big uns.
Black orcs, chariot and NG spearmen are not considered as multiple combat? How do you calculate combat result then? The way we did it, we added all casulalties all all combats, bonuses to charges (including flank and rear), standard and bsb, and the bonus from the unit that has the most ranks. Was that right?

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And another question, you said 'most numerous'.  I don't know if you meant ranks or models, but you flee from the one with the most ranks.  From the picture, if it is somewhat to scale, it looks like the knights have more ranks than the men at arms (only need 3 models in a lance formation to count as a rank). 
Yeah sorry I meant with most ranks (I have french rulebook, tried to translate, but obviously it was a bad attempt smile.gif) The scales of the pic was accurate at the beginning of the combat, but at the end when calculating combat result it was the men at arms unit who had the more ranks. So we assumed I must flee opposite to them. But If I understood you correctly, only the Big uns needed to flee opposite to them? An d the other ones opposite to the unit which made them flee?

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Your second question- I would play it like you did, but I wouldn't know if it was correct or not either.  If we couldn't agree on how to handle that situation, then it would be determined by a dice roll.
Thanks that seemed the right thing to do at the moment wink.gif
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Da Spawn Man
Posted: Jul 8 2012, 08:17 PM


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Yeah, I'd like to know too as (thankfully) I've not yet come by any combats like this in my game. *Groans* SQUIGKIKKA! Can you come shed your experience on this...? wink.gif
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