Undead Orcs, Suggested Rules, Stats, Background etc

Not to pull the air from the sails of those of you pushing for any of the other suggested ideas, but I'd like to share with you all some of the basic ideas I have so far:

Background:

Very basic stuff there, mostly just quick ideas that are open for much expansion

Plus some army ideas themselves:

Only Characters available are Common Orc and Common Goblin Warbosses, Big Bosses, Great Shamen and Shamen. Each of these is as taken from the Orc and Goblin army book, and each one can be further upgraded to being Undead.

Undead Orc/Goblin Shamen have a mixed Necromancy/Little Waagh spell list which includes Invokation of Nehek (which should be renamed something Orcy ) and the Undead Orc/Goblin units are affected differently to normal Skeleton/Zombie Units (eg Zombie Goblins are raised at +D6+4 per Power Level). Zombie/Skeleton Orcs/Goblins all have different stats and can further have additional rules (Orcs currently have Choppas )

Trolls are restricted Common and Were-Trolls. (Were-Trolls are normal Trolls with Frenzy and Undead)

Just some food for thought

So, I've gotten so carried away with this over the last 24 hours, and have come up with 12 new unit types, special rules for each, as well as fleshed out the special rules for the army in general...

So far suggested units include: Zombie/Skeleton Orcs; Zombie/Skeleton Goblins; Big Wights; Orc Husks; Corpse Trolls; Zombie Wyvern; Deff Kult Orcs/Goblins; Ghoul-Orcs; Painless Boyz.

goofy this is unfir! dont start with doing things before the voting is over. and post your ideas just like the others in the "the next project" tread.

fels

Yeah Goofy I have to say its nice your enthusiastic but realy you need to slow down or just not post here for equalities sake.

Also Personaly I prefer the idea of having the army mostly undead instead of normal orcs with some undead.

IE. An orc shaman/warboss finds a book on dark magic and finds themselves drawn to its power. They don't actualy read it but after opening it and looking at the pictures they get the jist/some magic helps them understand. Then they mix it with the old WAAAGH enegery they knew and are able to call old orc spirits from the dead.

Its pretty basic but do that instead of orcs and goblins+ some necromantic stuff.



But thats all irelevant, your sucking me in too. WAIT UNTIL THE POLL IS OVER!

But since the Pirate project had such a strong focus on Orcs wouldn`t it be nice for this project to have a stronger focus on goblins? Only would be fair I think since it`s a fair few all gobbo players out there + a lot of people who doubt the quality of gobbos in a scrap.

Just my

talast,
Red

edit: oh..I just read you reply Zorg, but still this is my input on it all

This post has been edited by Red Skullz on Apr 14 2006, 06:39 AM

Just some clarification:

1) This is *NOT* intended to sway the voting for the next project. I intend to work on this regardless of which option is chosen. I actually think there's a lot of potential in pretty much all the other suggested Variants too

2) The way I've got the basic structure for the list means that it can be 100% Undead, Mostly Undead with some living support, 50/50 Living/Undead, Mostly Living with some Undead Support or 100% living.

3) It's totaly not based on Necromantic ideals at all

4) For the sake of equality I'm going to lock this thread down, and move it to the Mod forum later on, and bring it back out when the voting's over

Okay guys, I've just got this sitting here in the Mod Forum to keep it out of public view, so as not to influence the voting on the next army book production

I might add things from time to time as I feel like updating... If you're going to vote in the "Next Project" poll, please don't read any further, as I don't want you to bias your decision

And if you've got any suggestions, then feel free to add them here too

Well I like the idea of a undead orc horde it looks very cool to play with I think, altough modeling wise it will be harder then the pirates I think.

Greetz
G

I think Animosity would be the same...but since these undead leigons of orcs are...well...erm dead. They should be made Immune to phsycology

How would that work?

-ACDM

Take the Undead rule out of the VC book. Also facilitates death if the Shaman dies.

I like the idea, really... and, as a suggestion-

Carrion Snots- Undead Snotlings who eat anything and everything left on the battlefield once the living members of the tribe have cleared out.

and

Orghouls- Essentially, the Orghouls are Orcs who were starved for long periods of time by the Shamen, and then fed putrid, infested, and diseased corpse meat. Due to their state of starvation, the diseases were able to take hold in the bodies, but not kill the Orcs. The Orcs, having long since lost the strength to continue wearing their old armour, go into battle with, at best, a loincloth for clothing, and an even more stooped appearance than usual. Most often, these Orcs have strengthened their natural fingernails into claws by mimicking the eating habits of the Trolls (the next closest thing to them in intelligence in most tribes), using them to rip through the flesh and bone of their foes in battle. The Orghouls in battle are a truly terrible sight to behold, as those foes they kill are consumed immediately on the battlefield, and the Orghouls bathe in the blood of the newly dead.

Orghoul Rules, off the top of my head:
Feasters- Orghouls never pursue an enemy that breaks; they're too busy eating the newly dead!

Horrible Sight- Enemies that see the Orghouls are so disturbed by their actions and brutality in combat that they ALWAYS fear the Orghouls, even other Fear-causing creatures, unless they fall into one of the following categories: the enemy is Frenzied, the enemy is Immune to Psychology, the enemy causes Terror, the enemy suffers Stupidity, or the enemy is Undead. Note that this means that a unit of Trolls will not have to take a Fear test against Orghouls, but a unit of Ogres will.

Alive!- The Orghouls are alive, exactly as described in the Vampire Counts army book. If the Shamen dies, the Orghouls will not take casualties, and they do not lose casualties by the number beaten in combat; they take break tests. However, due to causing fear, they do not take Fear tests.

Fear- They cause Fear.

This sounds really interesting. I'd really like to help out if this kicks off

-ACDM

That's an interesting idea Grim

I may as post *all* the ideas I came up with:

Starting off with the Units/Stats:

Now, Special Rules:

(Looks like the Quote System is going to screw up my tabulation... so just follow the numbers and rules across to mathc with their intended place... )

Overall Army Background:

And now idividual Unit Special Rules: (shoulda put this *after* the General Army Rules )