2000 Point Orc Army Idea

[the orc mafia]

general
stock savage orc war boss 170 points

wizard
wurzagg on a boar 374 points

core
40 savage orc with additional hand weapons split into four 10 man teams with big stabbas or 2 hordes of 20 each with 2 big stabbas each depending on enemy 510 or 580 points depending on setup

20 goblin spider riders with bows in two 10 man teams 340 points

special
20 savage orc boar boys with hand weapons separated into 2 10 man teams 430 points

3 spear chuckas 105 points

1999 points and costs a decent 380 us dollars plus tax (my original army idea had 3 aracnorock with flingas and the 150 dollar price tag for just 3 models was a little hefty for me 100 dollar 2 times a month paycheck


dont know if the points alloted is legal or not , not very good at percentages can u tell me if its good and legal

note i do not have this army this is only a concept i have yet to work out tactics or find a table big enough in my house to play with this large of an army

[the orc mafia]

sorry for making a double post or committing the most horrendous of dark magic threadomancy but im new and i have read the rules and do not think im in the wrong but i posted a week ago and 59 views and no replys i dont get it has my idea already been used or am i copying someone and have not realized it?
i thought the da warpath would like a new member and new o&g player,

plz reply

[Tremendous]

Well, You really didnt leave us with much in the way of what you want.

Number one, Your list is wildly mashed together which makes it a nightmare to read, understand, and interpret.

But I like a challenge so I'll do my best to help you out.

1.) Get an army book. your point values are off.

A "Stock" Savage orc Warboss is 150 points.

2.) Please look at how others have written their army lists on other threads so you know the format. Makes it easier to understand. Your "CORE" should look something like this.

20X Savage Orcs
AHW
Big Stabba

20X Savage Orcs
AHW
Big Stabba

10X Spider riders
Short bows

10X Spider Riders
Short bows

40 savage orc with additional hand weapons split into four 10 man teams with big stabbas or 2 hordes of 20 each with 2 big stabbas each depending on enemy 510 or 580 points depending on setup

Makes little sense and you dont get to change your list out (I.E. add stabbas) after you see what your opponent has. Its cheating and no one likes a cheater. (Plus your opponent probably wouldnt allow it if you tried it)


Now, on to your "Special: Choices...

20 savage orc boar boys with hand weapons separated into 2 10 man teams 430 points

Again, this makes my head hurt.

10X Savage orc Boar Boys

10X Savage orc boar boys

Spear Chucka

Spear Chucka

Spear Chucka

Now to the list itself.

At 2000 points you have 500 points MAX for Lords, 500 points MAX for Heros, you HAVE to spend 500 points on Core, 1000 points MAX for Special, and 500 points MAX for rare.

So, for your Savage orc War Boss and Wurrzag your at 524 for Lord point allotment. Take Wurrzag off the boar and your good at 500 points exactly. But that would be it for lords. This leaves your Lord horribly unprotected, since he has no magic gear, and since he's probably the most important model on the field thats just no good.

You've got 680 points of Core with your current list which means your good there and 465 points in Special which means your good there.

Losing the Boar off Wurrzag in order to make your Lord's point allotment legal your entire list is 1645 points leaving you 355 points left over.

Personally I would suggest adding Commands to the units you currently have in your list. Without them your opponent will have a large advantage over you in CC and I think I speak for everyone when I say no unit should be without a musician if they can take one.

Before you buy any models I highly suggest you study your army book and read the Rule book so that you have an understanding about how to play the game. Otherwise your just going to spend your cash on an army that wont workout, possibly be illegal, and bring you absolutely zero fun.

Study up, and when your ready we'll be here to help you create your list.

Good luck!

[the orc mafia]

ok sorry i dont have very good typing skills im better at speaking then forming a written sentence
which is ironic as im autistic. what im saying about switching out the big stabbas was that if i KNOW i will be playing against a high elf army i would utilize horde formation where as if i knew i was going to play against a skaven player i separate the horde into 2 units, is that allowed and is my list better ps i had added a full command to all units in first list in points but made no mention of it when explaining the format sorry


Lords
1x savage orc warboss with basha's axe of stunty smashing

heroes
1x savage orc shaman with lucky shrunken head

2x goblin shaman

core

10x savage orcs
AHW
full command
big stabba

10x savage orcs
AHW
full command
big stabba

10x savage orcs
AHW
full command
big stabba

10x savage orcs
big stabba


15x spider riders
short bows
full command

special

10x savage orc boar boys
full command

10x savage orc boar boys
full command

1x spear chukka

rare

1x giant
warpaint

1x doom diver catapult

2000 points exactly

[Tremendous]

Well thank you for changing up the format. MUCH better sir!

As for Changing out your list from 1 block of orcs to 2. Unless you have 2 lists ready to go at all times (Which really just consists of carrying around a few more sheets of paper.) You could probably switch around your lists from game to game no problem. However at a tournament whatever list you start with you'd have to stick with no matter what.

Also, you CAN NOT combine units during a game. I'm not sure if this is what your leaning at doing but it is 100% illegal. i.e. you cant take two units of 10 savage orcs and combine them into a unit of 20 mid game. Its not allowed.

Now to the list;

I gotta be honest. Units of 10 orcs... of any flavor, is a waste. With our low ini, average Weapon skill, and low AS most opponents will simply rip thru the models before you have a chance to attack, or at best leaving you with one or two attacks back if your lucky.

I would combine the units into units of AT LEAST 20 models and rank them up 5 X 4. Thats at a minimum. Take a look at other people's army lists on this forum to get a better feel for what your lists should kinda look like. As your list stands now none of your units will have the punch needed to survive any kind of fight. Shoot, an elf, dwarf, skaven, or empire gun line would literally blast you off the table in a few short turns.

Also, check your math (Or its possible I'm missing something or that you forgot to put something in your thread) I've got 1970 out of 2000 points. No biggy but with 30 points left over you could do something with it.

The list is comming along, you'll get there

[Throwdown55]

I would also HIGHLY suggest some night goblins. They are a fantastic tar pit and they are cheap both money wise and point wise. I have a squad of 50 night goblins w/ spears, shields and netters and they are great for holding an enemy unit. Then while they are holding the unit up, send in your savage orcs to flank and deal some heavy damage. Also maybe a chariot could help because it is mobile and great to crash into the side of units

[Throwdown55]

oh and i almost forgot. if you get night goblins, add some fanatics, they are $15 USD and they will really help those night goblins