Chariot Impact Hits, When are they worked out?

[Trollhoer]

I played a game vs Lizardmen lately and encountered a situation that worked out pretty.. fishy.

My orc boar chariot combined charged alongside my unit of troll into the front of a skink unit with one Kroxigor. My impact hits alone caused 5 wounds, meaning the entire first rank died. I wanted to continue attacking his unit with the crew and later the trolls, but my opponent stopped to argue that since the entire front rank had been wiped out and couldn't hit back, I no longer was in base to base contact and so I could no longer attack anyone. The impact hit thus prevented me from actually attacking. Then he proceeded to attack back with his Kroxigor (who for some reason could hit me but I couldn't hit him), took one wound of my chariot, only lost the combat with 4 and proceeded to make his break test.

This was wrong, wasn't it? It felt strange from the very start but I'm not one to argue in a friendly game. How should you normally work out impact hits taking out the entire first rank?

This post has been edited by Trollhoer on Nov 4 2009, 04:28 PM

[DrogDrogDrog]

It was wrong. You always remove wounds from the rear, you can continue attacking but he would not be allowed to attack back. Actually I dont kno how the whole kroxigor in a unit thing works but regardless If you destroy the front rank you can continue killing the unit, but he wont get to attack back.

[Silver]

You were entirely allowed to attack his kroxigors or skinks.
Next time ask him to show him where, in the rules, it states whatever he claims.


"Knowing is half the battle" and in this game's case, the other half is the dice.

This post has been edited by Silver on Nov 4 2009, 05:21 PM

[KramDratta]

Check BRB page 36 - Excess Casualties chapter.

[Skartooth The Third]

Wow you got cheated on there mate. I don't even have the rulebook infront of me but logic states that you could attack with all your models in base contact at the start of the combat phase. And no way should those Kroxigors have been able to attack as they were in the second rank at the start of the phase.

Skar

[Kees (aka Ghenkadh)]

...you could have hit him even more indeed.

But about the kroxigor: maybe the skinks screen the big fella who has such a reach he can hit overhead those tiny skinks??? Some special rule I (we) don't know?

Kees

[Silver]

Kroxigors may be hit and may hit you while they are in the second rank of their mixed unit.

Page 53 of the Lizardman army book:
"If a Kroxigor is in base contact with a skink of its own unit which in turn is in base contact with an enemy, then the Kroxigor too is counted as being in base contact with that enemy. This means that it may attack and be attacked by that enemy model."


This post has been edited by Silver on Nov 4 2009, 09:10 PM

[Trollhoer]

Thanks guys, it was as I thought then. Next time I won't be so "friendly" about it.