So, I am trying to come up with a believable background to my Orcs of the Bleeding Eye clan. Originally I had the idea of making them Draenorian orcs, which is a Warcraft thing, but I realized that is a bit silly, not to mention copyrighted

So I am trying to come up with a reason Krunk and Grunk are the way they are. I have something written, and I was hoping I could get an opinion on it. Its VERY short. This is a quick backstory as well as reason they are fighting in the Nemesis crown.


Background Fluff -
Krunk is a Savage Orc, and his brother Grunk is your normal run of the mill Orc.

The two were born twins, and both showed an aptitude for violence and skill with weapons. One day, when Krunk was around 15 years old, Krunk suddenly got an itch so to speak and ran off and vanished into the wilderness, only to return a few years later as a Savage Orc. During that time, Grunk had become a Warboss in the Bleeding Eye Clan of Orcs. Krunk joined him, and the two of them left the Clan to seek adventure, spoils, treasure, and a good fight. They found a group of night goblins in a cave who were quite crazy and worshipped a giant fish. The goblins were led by the shaman Mungfort Fishrot, who was deathly afraid of the larger orcs and pledged his clan to thier cause. These grotz were the start of Grunk and Krunks warband.

The group then moved out into the world, ravaging and pillaging and generally having a good ol time. After a few months out, the group heard some 'umie soldiers talking about something big that was happening in the Great Forest. What the orcs heard was talk about the Nemesis crown, and the orcs movement into the area. Never ones to miss a good scrap, Krunk, Grunk, and the Gobbo's moved south, entering the Talabecland Border from the north.

Once they entered the area, the ran into a small group of orc boyz who were being lead by an orc named Grinage Scaleslayer. Apparently this group was all that was left after a vicious attack by a small party of lizardmen who had holed up in the area. Grunk and Krunk let the small band join them, and vowed to help revenge the orcs. Not out of duty mind you, but because a fight was a fight, and Krunk and Grunk wanted to show the scalies who the big dog was.

OI! bleeding eye is the name of MY clan!!!!!
Grumble Grumble.

The fluff sounds good to me, exept it might be just a tiny bit to warcraft-orcish rather then warhammer-orcish. besides that, its quite good, but i didn't understand the part of the itch- oh, and dont orcs reproduce through spores? not the "normal" way? so, wouldnt that be illpgical to have a twin brother? or maybe that just 40k stuff.

NIce fluf. Really love the fish thing.

Don't mind the comment that your orcs aren't orcy enough... after all, the texts written in the armybooks are actually written by some dusty emperial scholars, and what do they know? They are STILL denying the existance of skaven. 'sigh'

I like the fluff a lot, especially the fish part, not sure why, but that had me rolling. And i have to agree that it sounds an awful lot like warcraft, whole honor, and brotherly love thing. But I always liked the idea of them as more barbarian tribesmen than savages anyway, so in my opinion, excelent work!

^Awesome!
What's crazy about worshipping giant fish though?


I have to agree with the comments about brothers though ( I don't want this to turn into a flame war about Greenskin biology) but there are no references in GW Orc fluff to brothers, fathers, uncles, etc. and I think it's better kept that way.

But it's your story!

Well I always was of the opinion that just because it aint mentioned, doesnt mean it doesnt exist. Honestly, when ya think about it, there isnt much about Orc Life that I at least have been able to find. We know how they are made up physically, and that they like to fight, and are ruled by the biggest and strongest.

But if they are mammals, like us, then they could, biologically at least, have the possibility of brothers.

Least thats the way I see it.

True enough if they are mammals, but I don't think they are.
But let's not go there; back to the story!

When do we get the next fishy installment?

Hehehehehe. Well that was just the background of the Clan and where they came from. I am still working on it. Hrmmm...Orcs dont really have "friends" in the traditional sense do they?

I think most releations between Orcs boil down to one of these:

• Orcs who I can boss-around
• Orcs who can boss me around
• Not Orcs who I can kill
• Not Orcs who can kill me

After that not much else matters!

Ok. I just started playing Orcs and Goblins back in January, and didnt really have time to do much fluff research...

So I am learning as I go. Alrighty... Lets try this!

UPDATED FLUFFS!

Krunk is a Savage Orc, and his second in command, Grunk, is your normal run of the mill Orc.

Grunk was a low level warboss of the Bloody Eye Clan*, and had been since a young age. One day, he decided to leave the Clan in order to try to be his own boss. He wandered the mountains for a few weeks, then one day entered the nearby forest. Once in the forest, he ran into an orc named Krunk, who rode a boar that Krunk called Porkchop. With Krunk came a group of forest goblin spider riders, who followed him out of a combination of fear and respect. Krunk quickly pressed Grunk into service, as Krunk was bigger, scarier, and stronger. The two of them left the forest, in search of spoils, a good fight, and more people to boss around.

They found a group of night goblins in a cave in the nearby mountains who were quite crazy and worshipped a giant fish, thinking it was Mork. The goblins were led by the shaman Mungfort Fishrot, who was deathly afraid of the larger orcs and pledged his clan to thier cause. These grotz were the start of Grunk and Krunk's warband.

The group then moved out into the world, ravaging and pillaging and generally having a good ol time. After a few months out, the group heard some 'umie soldiers talking about something big that was happening in the Great Forest. What the orcs heard was talk about the Nemesis crown, and the orcs movement into the area. Never ones to miss a good scrap, Krunk, Grunk, and the Gobbo's moved south, entering the Talabecland Border from the north.

Once they entered the area, the ran into a small group of orc boyz who were being lead by an orc named Grinage Scaleslayer. Apparently this group was all that was left after a vicious attack by a small party of lizardmen who had holed up in the area. Grunk and Krunk let the small band join them after a good knocking around, and decided to go find these lizard people, and show the orc boyz how a real orc fights.



How bout that? Little better/Makes more sense?
Footnote - There, changed it from Bleeding Eye to Bloody Eye

This post has been edited by Stomphoof on Jun 5 2007, 12:29 PM

Sounds like you need to create a Fishman theme for your minis like Warboss Kurgan! Damn those fishmen; creating more followers ALL the time!

I think you are moving in the right direction. I purposely stayed out of this until some others provided some feedback.

The change to the clan name was a good one, and it works pretty well. What is your new warband called then? Are Krunk and Grunk under Grinage Scaleslayer, or was this git killed off by the lizzies? You could clarify those two issues a little with this story, or you could begin with the death of Grinage and have the other two stumble on the scene and take over. It all depends where you want to start your story and how you want it to progress.

As far as pure background about your horde, it is pretty good. Like WBK stated, on to the next scene!

Goomb

Well I guess I need to clarify... I had Grinage survive, and Krunk and Grunk pressed him into service along with the remaining boyz. Like they found em running through the woods to get away from the lizzies.

Does that make sense? Or do Orcs not run from a fight?

My Orcs run away all the damn time!

It's worse than you think Goomb! There is going to be more than one fishy warband looking for the Nemesis Crown!

Ok so having the boyz run and literally run INTO Krunk and Grunk is an ok thing.

Now...bout this fishmen..

WHAT ARE YOU PEOPLE TALKIN ABOUT?!

EDIT - As for the Warbands Name?

The Bloody Eye Basha's is what I was thinking...

This post has been edited by Stomphoof on Jun 5 2007, 05:18 PM

Stomphoof, when it rains, it pours. When the battle goes horribly wrong, only the insanely brave or insanely stupid would stand to be ripped to shreds. Greenskins do turn tail and run if things go horribly wrong. Of course, da big boss will do some bashing when the lads get back together because, well, it wasn't his plan or strategy, right?
Stomphoof, are you planning to put a big fish on your banners?

WBK, yep, looks like at least two (yours and Stomphoof). Got any more in your club or other places popping up, or are you completing a goblin fishband?

EDIT: @Stomphoof, your plan sounds like a good one (sorry, we posted at the same time).

Here you go. Check out WBK's Fishmen Blog in P&H. This will shed some light on this! Sorry, Stomphoof, WBK and I get going and forget that not everyone has seen his great minis.