His name is Malorian. Just type in google "(Army name) in 8th", such as (Empire in 8th): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7LamALBjKI

He is a big poster over on warseer and plays a number of armies inclusing Ogres, Bretonnians and Orcs and Goblins. He posts many bat reps on Youtube which can be entertaining. He makes interesting points however I do not always agree with him but life is all about differences. His name here does produce a mixed response and I would urge people to comment not on him as a person but on his bat reps and advice only.

I bate his gits so much I have trouble sleeping... ;)

Just another of many youtube bloggers - mostly uninteresting because of the sheer amount of posted videos.

his vids are allrigth, but in general he does not go beyond the obvious

some of his batreps are pretty nice, and he's up to date with most tactics. he just talks too much.
I blame warseer for encouraging him in talking even more.

gimme da warpath anytime o da week.

I don't really think he's all that amazing. He was uh... hyped a lot more before, but it's really just basic stuff he covers while trying a bit to pass it off as his own amazing ideas :P

He does his thing though, and it's alright! I just disagree a lot with his tactics.

There are a number of people on here that agree with his tactics of blocks of 100 NG. Shimmergloom uses it. I don't think it's very interesting, but I haven't tried it.

That's probably the first thing I come to think of when I hear Malorian, and all I can say is "Nooo nononono no noooo"

He certainly does very well, and in his particular metagame he's very competent, but what a boring game style he has (In my opinion, of course). Playing one or two phases of the game with 4 units is just no fun, and sometimes I feel he's doing more harm than good when he spreads this style of play on Warseer.

That being said I really like the guy, his battlereports are pretty entertaining in some weird way and his Orc Tactical Team videos are usually high-class stuff. :) And he's too nice a guy to hate from what I've seen.

Theo

Nice battle reps are his thing, Never crazy about his lists as I like a less hordy approach. Over all its a good start for new O&G players to see what some of our strengths are in a very well made video battle rep.

Great guy and I hope to make it up to his neck of the NW some time to get a game in. Im about 4+ hours away from him.

I’ve saw some of his videos and I disagree with much of the stuff he talks about hordes and such, but hey, everyone has its own way to play and should be respected :).

One of the things i like about his vids is
he tries to explain certain tactics and strategies and keeps it simple, so that any Snotling can now see what the blazes Flankdenial is, or a Fanatic slingshot (in 7th).

He knows the basics and he shares them generously :D


and yeah.. he is pro hording in the fora (more than most).

I like the way he plays the game. He uses both fun and more competitive lists. Big fan of his reports and tactic videos as well with which he gives a good insight into the game.

I love his stuff, because his approach is so different to mine. i think his vids are all worth watching, but find your own style. i found him useful as i left the hobby in 6th edition and came back for 8th, and had to bring my metagame up to speed.

I thought it only fair to inform Malorian of this thread so he can reply to any of the posts raised. If he does or not, well that is up to him...

Hi there guys. I got wind about this thread so I thought I would pop in and have my say.


To be honest I'm just your average gamer with too much time on his hands. I hit my tactical peak in 7th ed and I'm now struggling in 8th to give advice past horde up and 6 dice the best spell.

I do my best to try and make videos for those new and experienced and I understand the frustration viewers can have. New gamers find the cheesy tactics cheesy (obviously), vet players find the simple tactics too simple, WAAC players don't like the bat reps with fluffy lists, and fun gamers don't like the bat reps with WAAC lists. Like I said, I just try my best to mix things up and have something for everyone.

Recently I went to two tournaments with my orcs and put up the reports (ten in all) although there was a sound glitch in the first one. I think it would be great if you guys checked them out and let me know what you thought. http://www.youtube.com/user/mrmalorian?feature=results_main

Because I've been putting out so many videos for years I find another problem people have with my videos is that they find old ones (like the one posted at the top of the thread) and don't realize I have ones that are more up to date. All I can say to this is subscribe and then you get them as they come ;)

I don't claim to be any thing great. My favorite channel is OnceBitten's who is a much better painter and puts out a great video every time (I've never found a sound glitch in his). I'm just a long time gamer putting out videos to share my experience so that new gamers can learn from me and so more experienced players can comment and teach em something.

Anyway, that's my say. Back to planning my next greenskin list :D

I think Malorian and I have similar aproaches to gaming which is competitive with a few curve balls here and there to keep it interesting for ourselves.

I learn new things from time to time and I just enjoy sitting down to lunch in front of one of his videos.

aargh.....now we have to be nice ;)

Not at all. The best way for me to improve my channel is through honest feedback.

Plus if someone wants to talk tactics I'm all for that too.

I never tried this 100 ng unit but I surely will soon. I usually don't like the idea of having deathstar units but I don't think a NG Deathstar is not really a Deathstar :P

I'll be using a unit of 100 gobbos off and on as well...but these are regular gobs with bows, shields and the Spider Banner on my BSB. I'd never have thought of such a ridiculously large unit if it wasn't for you, Mal. :P

Theo

i tend to use a unit of 80, different types, and im not sure if there's much benefit in going bigger than this. people at tourneys see mee deploying these amounts and allready they go " wowzers thats just sick, mate!"

i can tell their effects are somewhat different than what what my opponents expect of them.. When i tried a 20 wide archer unit, i found out that, even now, a stand and shoot won't do nuthin, it's also quite difficult to support wide units like this. and still i liked their use.

a deep unit, does last long, even a main unit of the enemy won't take this down in 1 round, so theyre stuck in combat long enough to make supporting units decide decide the outcome.

People dare not charge this with a single unit which makes for a very reliable centrepiece to your army. 20 wide archer unit means 60 volleyshots (40+half of remaining 40) even though those will not do a single wound, you can sit back and watch as the enemy is trying to keep all his medium and chaff units outside of their firingzone, until the enemy is familliar with it ofcourse.

im just curious though, is adding a good 60pts of goblins to this allready 300 pts unit really worth it?

To be honest I've never seen one of his video's and also Warseer has died an ugly death for me so don't have much to add on advice or tactics. From watching a few of the video reports (muted I hate people's commentries I have discovered) it seems that he is a competant player with his lists in a meta that is extremely different to mine.

The Bretonnians games I just couldn't watch, I'm already angry enough about the rumours I'm hearing about my favourite army

In my opinion Malorian makes very nice videos. Orc Tactical Teams have tons of good information for beginners and bunch of good points and views for more experienced players too. The battle reports are great fun while painting models, his and Oncebitten's reports are very well done.

Here in Finland ETC comps lead the monopoly of the competitive tournaments so I haven't had a chance to try things like 100 Night Goblins or huge hordes of Black Orcs/Trolls/Squigs/whateva, but in non-comped games I see this definitely as the way to go.

- Cheers, Skarsnik.

Now that's an interesting note.

I know from my own experience I get bored with reporters that are long winded and I find myself skipping forward, so is that your main issue too, or is it something else?

Since I have partial deafness and Tinnitus I struggle listening to anything except person to person conversation and alternative (for me) accents make it more complicated and painful for me, obviously this cannot be helped much by yourself and other internet bloogers so I find it easier all around if I just mute the video and turn the sound back on if I felt like I have missed something or found something interesting and wanted to hear thoughts although I often struggle with this part.

Interesting. Unfortunately like you say there is little I can do unless I start putting in more visual ques like others have done like stars when something is destroyed or arrows showing charges and flees, and the program I'm using doesn't support that without going to a third program.

I'll also be the first to admit that I have a bit of a slur, so on top of my Canadian accent I can see how that would bother people.

Hey Mr M.
You can always text your batreps :P

I'm not sure that more visual aides would have the desired effect as I have seen some battle reports online where I hadn't the faintest clue what was going on because there were stars, explosions, flame templates ect everywhere which made the entire thing almost unfathomable

Do you mean Twitter or actually making them written again?

On youtube.
You talk and text it at the same time.
Like a movie :P

Lordy that would be a lot of work... I think I'll pass on that one ;)

He just moved to my area and should be playing in our tournies soon(not sure if he was in our 1250pt tourney, I had to miss that one).

Our next tourney is in September. I may become internet famous getting crushed in his reports.

I also will never get over how anti-horde O&G people are here, when you are playing the quintessential horde army.

8th edition has finally made it possible to play a greenskin army the way it's always been imagined. Don't let this opportunity pass you buy. Before you know it, GW will be back to making sure that small msu elf style/5 man cav units are super powerful again and it'll be too late.

Say what?

That is not what it is about at all. It is about claiming something as facts and proof when you could just type whatever you like and expect everyone to swallow it (ignore the dice, ignore various meta, ignore types of opponents...). Hordes will work in games, but not everytime, nor are they the only way to play the game. You can still have lots of greenskins on the table, with large blocks, but they do not need to be a horde. Sometimes you do, sometimes you do not - that is what reform is about.

It really does depend on the area that you play, for me we play with Heavy terrain (6+d6 pieces) so often it is not possible to run all horde all the time due to being able to manouver freely between terrain, hence myself attempting to adopt a MMU/MSU style of army and going heavy on warmachines to reduce to routes to my forces essentially creating a funnel

It is actually good that there is so much discussion about "to horde or not to horde"

it just shows that it really is a tactical desicion and not another nobrainer.

I don't know about you guys, but I am a massive fan.

I eagerly await his battle reports every week!

Some good stuff on this thread. Especially the horde or not discussion.
I remember watching some of malorian's videos a while back, but dont remember much content.
Think i'll give some of them another look, especially as I'm a sucker for a decent bat rep...

In terms of the UK tournament meta, hordeing up seems to be the way people are going. Less units with animosity, less units to panic, less randomness essentially.
In general, orcs and goblins really seem to struggle in the tourneys. Some people are arguing that the way to comp them, is to just remove animosity... Which would be very controversial...

In terms of the horde I currently run, a 40 strong (30 squigs, 10 goblins) Squig herd.
- The unit gets targeted a lot. People see a big scary horde and shoot and magic it to pieces.
- It means that often, I'm not getting a third rank of Squig attacks by the time I reach combat.
- One answer would be to deploy them in a thinner formation, to make people perceive them as less of a threat. But the issue with this is that there is no musician for a swift reform...
- Invariably however, they do a large amount of damage to whatever they get into combat with.
- Plus they're a unit you can just throw forwards and sacrifice for damage output, as you know they'll cause some pain even if they are defeated.
- Because of the offensive nature of the unit, it seems to me that it is always better to be wider and getting more attacks than thinner and getting more ranks/taking less damage.
Overall I think it is a better unit as a horde.

I think i'd argue much of the above for savage big uns too. But i'm not sure about hording up any of the other units in the army...
The 100 strong 10x10 square of goblins does sound fun though...

To me it's a very simple issue:

-By having a different formation I get more attacks
-More attacks wins more combats
-By winning combats you wipe out entire units


Should you always horde? No. There are times when going ranked is better, but by and large there are many more situations where being in a horde is better than being ranked, or at least there should be.

Going horde means being offensive and winning combats, going ranks means being defensive and losing combats. So really if your game plan doesn't revolve around winning then you are bound to do a lot of losing ;)

I couldn't disagree more with this opinion, but if it works for you in your meta congratulations and may your luck continue