I'm trying to plan out an all gobli army, and I'm wondering the most effective way to run the BSB. My first thought was survivable, making sure I maximized armor and ward saves, but now I'm wondering if a magic banner might be more useful - especially because it's the only one I could get in an all goblin army!

Also, should I run my BSB as a Night Goblin or a Common Goblin? I was leaning towards a night goblin with standard of discipline to join my general in his unit, but that is a very exposed BSB! What do you guys suggest?

Have you considered running the BSB, and possibly the general, in a bunker unit behind the 'combat' blocks (well as combatty as gobbos get anyway :P)?

20 night gobbos with bows, full command (just in case) is stuff all points, and keeps your BSB and general more mobile to pread the leadership bubble. If worst comes to worst you could use them to flank a unit that has broken through.

RoV

I have to agree with Rat of V as it is one of the best ways to keep your General and BSB alive. Its also kinda fitting as gobbos are not very brave and Bosses are the smartest Gobbos "Lead from the rear"

Gobbo Warboss with a NG BSB with LD Banner is a great way to get LD 9 in your army for those 24"

I hadn't! Its certainly worth considering. It just feels so wrong to me to have a general hanging out behind the lines, but I am playing as goblins now, so I should get a bit more crafty with these kinds of things...

Hmm... If I do this I could take the general as a more bare-bones option and put the Standard of Discipline on the BSB. Might try to make that work. I bet I could make that work out nicely if I shifted my units around a bit, but I feel like I'm missing out on the points I'd be spending towards a warboss, since some of those points are going towards his combat stats.

Buy some cheap and cheerful (well, as much as gobbos can be cheerful) gobbo big bosses, and give them a magic weapon or just great weapons. If they are in a NG unit with nets, they are effectively T5!

RoV

Fair! That will certainly counterbalance the warboss I'm missing, and I could probably afford a couple from the points I save on magic gear.

For the BSB, do you guys suggest common goblin or night goblin?

I usually run mine defensive, but those 50 points of magic items just doesn't seem to be quite enough...Even the Armour of Destiny isn't all that.

So today I'm trying out mine with the Spider Banner in a unit of 100 Gobbo archers. :P

Theo

You could have the BSB in the front rank and STILL be 8" away from enemy who have charged the unit! :lol:

With the question as to what sort of night gobbo, I would be tempted to go a common goblin as they have that extra point of leadership; your general might not last as long as you like...

RoV

I run an all-goblin army and I usually do it that way too. A unit of 21NG with musician is a nice bunker to stay. You can give to your BSB the banner of discipline and spread a lovely Ld9 bubble! The drawback and the thing you should be careful is death magic. It can die pretty fast due to snipping spells. Magic resistance is a good way to protect it a bit more. Give to your general magic resistance objects and the hole unit will have ward save against lot of spells, include death ones. Also, I would recommend to get a goblin big boss, as he has more Ld than the NG option.

So...the BSB with spider banner did OK, I guess. No real result. The 100 gobbos ended up dying (He shot them with all he had and Finally Transmuted them several times) so they didn't do a lot. They got a round of shooting off with poison wich took out his Luminark, and that was OK. However, they got panicked by something and spent the rest of the game running before they finally got run down. :lol:

I think the idea has potential, though...my opponent deployed really far back, so getting an opportunity to shoot with them was difficult. :/

Theo

I've got an all goblin army, and I always run my Warboss and BSB on spiders in a unit of spider riders. BSB gets the standard of discipline and they just skitter around behind my line pushing the Ld-bubble where it needs to go. I generally have a rather loose and mobile playstyle, so this works infinitely better for me than the small NG bunker. It's also easier to get out of the way of angry enemy chaff units. A standard wizard-hunting unit will make short work of an unprotected BSB.

I did try the Spider Banner BSB once, but liek Theo's try his unit didn't really get to shoot much. I'll try it again at some point, but it'll be an occasional gimmick at best.

Yeah, is not a bad idea, as you have a fast bunker, but it's a bit fragile, as you have less wounds than the NG bunker and a so-so armor save. Both options have their pros and cons.