So I picked up a huge pile of older (but still in original boxes) models recently.

I've started putting together a metal Azhag. OMG what a nightmare that model is. lol

I've snapped 3 drill bits so far, and I've got lots of pinning still to do. My fingers are bleeding and sore, and I've got a blister from my pin vise.

Ugh!

Which azhag is it? the (very) old one or the previous metal version of the actual finecast ?

If you're talking about the latter, then I'm gonna cry also since I own this model and I've yet to assemble it

The old one and the "newer metal one are pretty painful from my experience.

It's the newer metal one.

It's chief flaw is that it is so heavy (even the wings are metal) that overall stability is affected. Every major joint needs multiple pins.

A clubmate built his with at least 2 pins in every joint and it still comes apart unless he picks it up by the body only.

Never tried this, but I have seen some kids use like auto body expoxy (it was light and dark silver. They would glue their models together with that, looked awful if they did not clean the stuff that pressed out of the join. I suppose you could greenstuff the gap. Not sure if this is even a good idea or not!

im dreading the metal gorbad so i can only magine how metal azhag will be.
green stuff + 1 pin wont help more than multiple pins tho.
it is worht making sure the pin is a real tight fit in the hole with green stuff tho.

i think thats why some of my pins have come out in the past - because the hole is a little bigger than the pin im using.

tough work but i like the weight of a metal model ,is very satisfying :)

Metal Gorbad was a pleisure or at least my one. The base wasnt that good because it doesnt fit into each other but that´s it. Gorbad himself was really good but well, metal minis can be a pita for sure. I even had a grimgork who was really bad.

ive dry fitted mine on several occasions and the axe arm join is pretty terrible,
the rest seems okay.
but the boar (which came ready made, ebay!) had huge gaps in it.
but ive already filled those.

did you pin your gorbad to the base?
im worried he will eventually braek of it and topple :P



sorry for going of topic!

That's the only real trouble spot on Gorbad (I put two pins in that joint). I had some big gaps to fill in mine, but I repositioned the torso a bit so that his pointing hand is pointing exactly straight forward along the boar's head.

I just filled the big gaps at the base with green stuff and flocked it after. Now it´s pretty stable and looks ok. I have to work on the base anyway so why not completely cover it with flock and grad I said to myself. :D

i have old metal azahg - pre white metal i think and definitely pre GW greenstuff, the old ones that had lead, and it has broken on numerous ocasions, and now has a plastic highelves dragons tail. It was a a trial to pin together and it refused superglue.
i used a small amount of newpaper as a gluing medium because i was young and didnt know any better, and as superglue stick metal to paper better than it sticks metal to metal this succeeded.

unfortunately i had his saddle in the wrong position, and the efficacy of the mixture of glue and paper has meant that to this day azhag topples forward.

of my four wyverns, and loads of metal miniatures, this one has been the worst and i mean to update with a Failcast model in the new year. :vomit:

ps, having just bought a metal gorbad, i'm worried that he'll be hard and i'll have to resort to the metal/paper/metal debacle :badgobbo:

The hardest thing I recall glueing was the common troll with the hammer. :badgobbo: :badgobbo: :badgobbo:

Oh and the old-skool goblin wolf chariots. How I ever got the crossbeam to sit on the wolves and join the chassis I will never know.

oh god ive got one of those trolls sitting to be stuck together.

the gigantic spider thronw bit was a pain in the :badgobbo: to stick together - not a pinning or weight problem, more a, my hands coated in super glue by the end of it one.

Well let me warn you now, you either need a sturdy vice to hold him or 3 pairs of hands. Unless ofc you are very lucky and the 2 joins fit first time. I wish you luck. :(

I don't know about the new Azagh model, but the old one wasn't any problem.

It's still in one piece and that's without pinning (which I didn't do at the time).

I've just finished the new normal Wyvern of which i got a metal one on the cheap and I didn't have any mayor problems once I figured out how it should fir together.

It's now sitting on my desk all in one piece and one of these day I'm going to get around the butchering it once again. As I plan on cutting the neck in at least three places to have him looking to the right and also the Boss on top of him will be a kitbash / conversion.

I actually like models nog fitting 100% as this gives me the need to green stuff and means I usually end up converting them :D (and yes, I know this isn't a big help to most of you)

Grtz
-EM-

Got the bastard built last night. I'm not putting on the piece of chain (from Azhag's hand to the wyvern's head), since I'm keeping orc and wyvern separate for painting. I'll put a section of actual chain in it's place once the thing is finally done instead.

I still have to put in some supplementary after-the-fact pins in the wing joints - I only put in one pin in each to get the initial assembly done.

It could make sense to put a chain on both sides. The way it comes Azhag can only do left-turns, which would be something of a disadvantage. :o

You know what they say: three lefts make a right

I am an older player (2nd Ed) and have the old (original) Azhag which is white metal (lead + tin ), very soft and difficult to work with.
I also have the later metal one which is the revised metal (white metal +tin= Pewter) very hard to drill, a general PIA to work with.
I'm waiting for GW to sort their dung on the Finecast before I get one.
Believe me I know your pain.