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Title: Red's Orc River Pirates
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Red Skullz - January 13, 2007 09:24 AM (GMT)
I`ve always had a thing for pirates ya know, and for orc(k)s as well. So much that when the opportunity arose I jumped at it and contributed into making Da Warpath Armies: Orc Pirates, which in my humble opinion at least was and still is a really standout project!

Anyhoo..with some of the guys in my gaming group trying to start up a Fantasy Warbands Campaign one of the things that marked itself out early was the naval aspect of Fantasy. So with persuading my good friend Rik into making a ship for me which can be seen underneath it was all starting to pick up steam:
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His entire project log on that ship can be seen by clicking on this link, the Double Pencils Project log. So no the ship is not done yet!

Okey so that`s the excellent reason for me too revamp my older pirates which had a bit more viking approach to it than normal piratey approach. Just looky here:
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The Cap`n Krunk mini will probably not make it into this crew, I think I`ll save him for the next ship. The others probably will be featured somewhere along the revamped ones.

Here`s some of my older pirates that`s PiP (and been so for at least a year..):
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But now for the "juicy" stuff. What`s shown below is the start on the revamped ones. The orc will of course be my Kap`n, armed with 2 choppas and light armour (hey that coat is quite hefty). Based on a 40K nob (they`re great figs for making slightly larger bosses), Grimgor`s head and a plastic arm from the orK sprue and orC sprue and a bit of greenstuffing I think he represents a decent enough river pirate Kap`n. The troll I`ve still got some work on, his club will be made into a crude anchor and I need to make him a shirt.
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So that should be enough for now, please make comments about what I`ve done so far and I`ll be seeing ya soon with another update!


Warlord Ghazak Gazhkull - January 13, 2007 10:23 AM (GMT)

Cool looking pirate, I also like the troll :), Make sure you keep us updated on you're progress.

And now I will make place before Kurgan gets here and goes crazy about these new pirates :lol:.


Red Skullz - January 13, 2007 10:44 AM (GMT)
Thanks a lot WGG, and will do :)

Oh I guess WK will like that them pirates are getting back in the highlight ;)


emoe - January 13, 2007 11:31 AM (GMT)
im working on my pirates to! :D doing 30 sea gobbos :) how should i use rules? from the new book, or from oldbook+piratesbook?


Hertz - January 13, 2007 03:45 PM (GMT)
Nice done!
I am curious how that troll gonna turn out

Red Skullz - January 13, 2007 03:51 PM (GMT)
Gamewise as the new book, model wise as the Pirates book. That way with my opponents consent I can play a propah pirate list ;)

Thanks bud :)
Oh and I wonder too :lol:


Red Skullz - January 13, 2007 11:16 PM (GMT)
Oh it`s savvy :D
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Red Skullz - January 14, 2007 11:21 AM (GMT)
Here`s a pic of how we plan on building the last parts on the ship/raft/Red Pearl:
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For the lookout I'll sculpt a branch to the big log, rather than fixing a big mast. Then I'll build a "treehut" on one of the branches from that again. There will be room for a flag on the top of this branch..

The warmachine will be place on a platform a bit wider than the main platform. It might be a bit elevated as well, to make it more useful for LOS weapons. Hav'nt decided yet.. From the WM platform, a ladder will go to a plank used to jump on the wheel (for propulsion and execution)

The main platform will consist of 3 and 3 small trees tied togheter with rope(wire), then placed to make gaps looking into the water(to see squigs). They will be attached to rods drilled into the logs, the rods also making the base for the fence around the platform. (not on the picture) I'll do the fence and tree hut orc style.

Modeling oars
To visualise the oars, squigs will be placed in the water (to give an impression that the raft has a kapability to pivot) and goblins/gobbos/snotlings will be placed on the wheel. The crew "pulling the oars" will be amongst the rest of the models.

In this case pulling oars means:
- forcing the squigs to swim the one or the other way
- running on the wheel (when gobbos/goblins = oars)
- "motivating" the ones running on the wheel (when snotlings = oars)
The models "pulling the oars" will be the acting crew, and can't do anything else(as described in generals compendium)

For other ideas please come with them now, we`re about 1-2 days away from implementing the stuff on the sketch.


WarbossKurgan - January 14, 2007 12:19 PM (GMT)
Avast ya scurvy bilge rat! That be a mighty piratical start to yer fleet!

I love the Kap'n - very VERY cool. :wub: B) :D
I really like the ship as well - I think you should add a quarter-deck above the paddle wheel, so the Kap'n has somewhere impresive to stand.

How is the wheel powered? Crude steam engine or Goblin muscle? :lol:

Red Skullz - January 14, 2007 12:38 PM (GMT)
Thanks a lot WK :D

I`ll tel Rik da Buildah about the quarterdeck, mighty fine idea if ya ask me :)

The wheel is of couse powered by many mini muscled gobbos :lol: I`m actually painting up the bully l n Shanks. He`s mainly staying with the lobba krew but will of course have a key part in keeping them gobbos paddlin`away ^_^

So hopefully another update this evening or tomorrow :rolleyes:


frugger - January 14, 2007 02:04 PM (GMT)
Well Ive never been to fond of the pirate stuff*ducks*

There is only a few models I rely liked. And now squig beard is one of em.

Red Skullz - January 14, 2007 03:56 PM (GMT)
Painting speed is really starting to pick up again, always does when I get back to mah orc/ks.

Anyhoo, here`s my Rock Lobba Orc Bully l n Shank. No huge conversion here really, just the normal bully model with a beard added.
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As you can see I`ve re-arranged the places I use the different colours on this one. I will use the 3 main colours red, blue and white here and there on all of my minis for this krew. Makes it coherent, yet rag-tag, yet colourfull and bright.


PS: not everyone can have great taste frugger :lol:
Nah just kiddin with ya, thanks a lot for the kind compliment bud :)

Rik a Kadrin Kazad - January 14, 2007 06:49 PM (GMT)
Hi all

The quarter deck is a nice idea, but then the goblins won't have anywhere to run... Unless I make it a small one..

And shouldn't the capt'n be up front, as one of the chargers? (He's the capt'n because he is the strongest and the one who likes to fight the most, right ? )

Think mayby I'll make two decks up front, a one rank 2nd story deck to give the 2'' hight difference bonus when boarding an enemy (the Red Pearl is kinda close to the water now.. ) At least an idea, you like ?

Anyway, already the scetch have been changed, as I tend to do a lotta changes as I build..

Here are a few WIP's. Have started to do deck mockups.. :
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And the birdview:
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I'll do some adjustments to make the maindeck a bit longer. Ofcourse it'll be barricaded as well. Maybe a orc hut will be constructed on the rear left side, but at least the lookout will have a barrel high up here. I'm moving away from the "sculpt a branch" idea though, easyer to make a construction of some sort..
Maybe I'.ll give the cap'n an overview platform based forward on one of the big log floaters, like a throne or chariot kinda thingy..

Ill use cardboard to wrapround the "floppers" on the paddlewheel, paint it steel and draw lines elsewhere to make it look like wood.

Compare da pictures to the previous scetch, and feel free to post ideas :)

Warlord Ghazak Gazhkull - January 14, 2007 07:22 PM (GMT)
I love the kap'n and the bully is also awesome. I see forward to the rest of you're stuff :).


Chaos goblin - January 14, 2007 08:35 PM (GMT)

Red Skullz - January 14, 2007 10:17 PM (GMT)
Thanks guys, and thanks Rik for contributing in your own words about your build of da Red Pearl :)

Next up will be the whaler = orcs w/spears :D


Rik a Kadrin Kazad - January 16, 2007 02:59 AM (GMT)

Red Skullz - January 20, 2007 01:58 PM (GMT)
Well as usual nothing goes as planned, but now I`ve managed to take some pics of the whaler unit WiP.

The first whaler will eventually become the veteran of the bunch. Still not done since I`ve got one boot left and making his horned helmet into a tricorn hat - pirate style!
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The second whaler is the old geezer of the lot. Missing a leg and more and more of his hair he`s barely sticking around. My fav conversion so far (besides the Kap`n, he rocks).
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The pelt they got on them is squig-seal hide, just to separate them a bit more from the rest of the krew.
You can also see that I`m using a lot of my older models that have a mildly put crappy paintjob on them. Therefore I`m basecoating this with a brush to get as thin of a coat as possible. The rest of the old mistakes I fix with the paintjob itself.
Also here you can see the scoremarks I`ve made in the base to simulate the planks and the flock that will end up as some kind of moss / seaweed.

Now I have finished the young n of the whalers, as seen underneath:
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He`s the orc that originally comes with the chariot, but I like the mini and the spear so much I just included him with these guys.

Comments if ya like..


Chaos goblin - January 20, 2007 03:41 PM (GMT)
Nice models. Good painting.

Red Skullz - January 20, 2007 05:53 PM (GMT)
Thanks Cg :)

Quick update with some PiPs of l geezer here. Skin, eyes, teeth, hair and squig-seal hide more or less done just some minor brushwork here and there.
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Really happy with how this guy is turning out. The hair became even better than I had hoped :)


Warlord Ghazak Gazhkull - January 20, 2007 11:16 PM (GMT)
Really cool looking whalers, Red skullz. You can maybe find inspiration in the pirate book for some more whalers :). Keep up the good work.


Red Skullz - January 20, 2007 11:21 PM (GMT)
Thanks WGG :)

Well I`m using the artwork mostly for inspiration now, I find it a tad more piratey than the minis we made then. Not in a negative sense towards those who contributed to it, it`s just that the artwork has more of the comedy feel that I want to obtain with this warband :)


Rik a Kadrin Kazad - January 21, 2007 07:25 PM (GMT)
The latest situation of Da Red Pearl:
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Sorry bout the low qual pictures.. made to many of them fit one page didn't I...

Rik a Kadrin Kazad - January 26, 2007 06:55 PM (GMT)
I've just started building the capt'n hut, only the frame so far. The plan was to do it coconut style, but I ended up with another "style".. Here are some WIP's:

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Im thinkin big animal hides to cover the sides, maybe on a wall of planks, and a roof for the bowmen.. There will be two entries/exits on the hut, one from the deck over tha wheel, and one out too the platform .

whatya think ?

Rik a Kadrin Kazad - January 29, 2007 07:07 PM (GMT)
New update on the hut at Red Tavern. Slash this.

Grulkhor Shipraider - January 31, 2007 05:22 PM (GMT)
Very cool looking Whalers, I like the Squigseal-hide! Your captain is fantastic, yarrrr! I'd love to see that boat finished too.

Rik a Kadrin Kazad - January 31, 2007 05:53 PM (GMT)
I'll finish buildin da pearl by friday, since I'm on leave startin tomorrow ;)

Red Skullz - January 31, 2007 11:11 PM (GMT)
Thanks for the kind words :)

This force will be (hopefully) very individual and unique looking, at least that`s my goal.

As for you Rik, you keep on building ya hear ;) :D


Mork's Chariot - January 31, 2007 11:54 PM (GMT)
Red do you ever stop painting? :lol:
I really like the way the Red Pearl looks ^_^

Red Skullz - February 1, 2007 06:35 AM (GMT) :lol:

Having a babyson and a girlfriend that works a lot of late shifts and not wanting to sit in front of the television is more than good enough motivation to just sit and build and paint :)


WarbossKurgan - February 1, 2007 10:48 AM (GMT)
Hey Red!
I like the way you think, my man!

"Oh yes dear, you go out to work, I'll stay home and watch the baby!"
*eyes big pile of balsa wood*

Can we have a little more info about the ship in the background of this shot? She's a beauty!

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Red Skullz - February 1, 2007 12:15 PM (GMT)
Could there be any other way of doing things ;) :lol:

Well the ship in the background is of course Rik`s pride and beauty. I think he used approx a year building it and it is the centrepiece of the Kadrin Kazad Navy. Medium sized if I`m not mistaken and a real beaut.

Ah well...go take a look here instead:
One of Rik`s first posts where he says most there is about it. Buuut I`m sure he would be obliged to take some better pics :)


PS: here`s his newest ships for his fleet:

WarbossKurgan - February 1, 2007 12:44 PM (GMT)
*slaps forehead*
Of course the Cecilie! I should o' recognised her at three leagues off! :D
I saw the little Gyro-carriers the other day as well.
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Goomb - February 1, 2007 01:58 PM (GMT)
How the heck did he do the removeable masts and keep them stable? Now that is a nifty trick.....could be used elsewhere! I am thinking a magnet and metal, but perhaps he came up with a more ingenious, dwarfish method.

Neat ships, thanks for the links. The Red Pearl is unique, to be sure. It is not what I expect for an Warhammer ship, but then again, greenskins do put some wood together and call it good. :P Not that you guys are slapping some PVA and on know what I mean! :P

Chaos goblin - February 1, 2007 02:09 PM (GMT)
Nice converted ship.

Rik a Kadrin Kazad - February 1, 2007 11:16 PM (GMT)
@ Goomb:
Sorry bout replyin to this in your blog Red.. It's just easyer..
The removable masts was easy since the hull was 3 layers; foamcard+styrofoam(2'')+foamcard.
1. Used a pencil and the mast to draw a circle on the top layer of foamcard.
2. Used a hobby knife to carv out the circle on the top layer.
3. Used a bit of force(and eye messure to get it straight) to press the mast down into the middle layer styrofaom(it will compress).
4. Then used some pliers to pull out the ruptured compressed styrofoam.
5. Then apliead a 1''square of foamcard (as a layer 4) with the same circled hole in it.
6. Finally covered the top square (when layin the deck) in balsa wood to make a firm top layer for tha masts not to move.. (the two top layers of foamcards also does this..)

So all three masts go aprox 2" down into tha hole, making it mighty stirdy (As all dwarven constructions.. )

No magnets needed :rolleyes:

Thanks for tha comments on Da Pearl, I'm inspired to finish tha hut now :)

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