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 Shanghainese Words
kyumiki
Posted: Apr 28 2009, 09:51 PM


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These are some chinese words that I learned from China (Shanghai):

Hello: Nihao
Goodbye: Zai Tien
Thanks: Xie xie
Your welcome: Bu ke qi

I want: Wo yao
I am: Wo zai

Teacher: Lao shi
Student: Xue Sheng
School: Xue xiao

Potato: tu dou
Cabbage: bai cai [sai]
Raddish: luo bo
Carrot: hu lou bo
Mushroom: mo gu

Cloth: yi fu
Shoes: Xe zi [tzi]
Hat: mao zi [tzi]
Pants: ku zi

Spring's rain: Chun yu


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Stephanie
Posted: Apr 29 2009, 12:44 AM


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Is that Mandarin? Cantonese? And, what else are the other types of Chinese language? hmm.gif


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violoncello
Posted: Apr 29 2009, 05:52 AM


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lol it's a dialect Steph.

There are like 100+ dialects in China.

But that sounds like, Mandarin (mostly anyway). I've only heard Shanghainese a couple of times, and it sounds nothing like Mandarin. Maybe it's the way they say the words.


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Hisui
Posted: Apr 29 2009, 09:00 AM


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I recall Shanghainese is a derivative of Mandarin, thus the similarities. It evolved differently, though, due to Shanghai's place in Chinese history.


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kyumiki
Posted: May 1 2009, 09:58 PM


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I learned these in Shanghai thats why i called it shanghainese:

Please: qing

Play ball: da qiu
Read: du shu
Homework: zuo zuo ye
(to)Eat: qu [also can be used for i want]

Grandfather: ye ye
Grandmother: nai nai
Father: ba ba
Mother: ma ma
Big sister(ate): jie jie
Big brother: ge ge
Little sister: mei mei
Little brother: di di
Auntie: a yi
Unkle: shu shu

Rain: xia ba

1: yi
2: er
3: san
4: si
5: wu
6: liu
7: qi
8: ba
9: jiu
10: shi

11: shi yi
12: shi er
(and so on)
~if its 20, its "er shi"~
~I dont know the one hundred...~


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violoncello
Posted: May 2 2009, 01:20 AM


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QUOTE (Hisui @ Apr 28 2009, 05:00 PM)
I recall Shanghainese is a derivative of Mandarin, thus the similarities. It evolved differently, though, due to Shanghai's place in Chinese history.

<--doesn't remember anything about Shanghai in her Chinese history lessons
<--then again, doesn't remember much from those lessons

T_T

but kyumiki, I would imagine the pin yin in Shanghainese would be slightly different than in Mandarin.

Watch this video
@1:55 - 2:08 -> the guy says 1-10 in shanghainese slowly
@2:38 - 2:45 -> the guy says 1-10 in mandarin first then again in shanghainese

and tell me which one was taught to you <.O;

and also they say 20 later in the video at about 4:09


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Hisui
Posted: May 2 2009, 08:15 AM


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QUOTE (violoncello @ May 2 2009, 01:20 AM)
<--doesn't remember anything about Shanghai in her Chinese history lessons

It's the large influx of foreign powers, I would think. Plus, most of China's foreign trade with the British was conducted via Shanghai, due to the city's strategic location, and foreign influences (largely the British) have been strong in the city ever since the First Opium War.

The city was exposed to more of the West than the rest of China at the time, as it was one of various ports that the British stipulated be opened to foreign trade after the war. It continued to hold that role even through the Second World War and the time prior to the formation of the People's Republic, since it had a solid governmental system while the rest of the country was divvied up by warlords.


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violoncello
Posted: May 3 2009, 12:16 PM


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Eh, true, since it was a port <.< but wasn't it Hong Kong that went under British rule until the end of the twentieth century?


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Hisui
Posted: May 3 2009, 02:38 PM


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QUOTE (violoncello @ May 3 2009, 12:16 PM)
but wasn't it Hong Kong that went under British rule until the end of the twentieth century?

Yes, along with other territories. Macau and Hong Kong were in British control, but Shanghai was forced to open its ports to foreign trade. This is in contrast to the rest of China, which was doing what it could to remain closed off from foreign influence.


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