| · Portal |
Help
Search
Members
Calendar
|
| Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register ) | Resend Validation Email |
| Welcome to MWPH. We hope you enjoy your visit. You're currently viewing our forum as a guest. This means you are limited to certain areas of the board and there are some features you can't use. If you join our community, you'll be able to access member-only sections, and use many member-only features such as customizing your profile, sending personal messages, and voting in polls. Registration is simple, fast, and completely free. Join our community! If you're already a member please log in to your account to access all of our features: |
| Pages: (4) [1] 2 3 ... Last » ( Go to first unread post ) | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
| mangsky |
Posted: Nov 28 2011, 11:22 AM
|
|
Supplier, Accredited buyer/seller Group: Members Posts: 2,679 Member No.: 14 Joined: 3-October 07 |
ARMAGEDDON 2012
WARMACHINE HORDES LEAGUE ![]() PITSHOP FORTRESS (Mon-Fri only) Begins December 1 2011 - Ends January 31 2012 Prizes : Coins and Medals for top finishers (details below) Entrance : P500 (in lieu of cash, for those who will register by the first week of December, we will accept kind donations worth approx P500 for our Christmas charity giveaways) Acceptable donations: (please be advised that QUANTITY trumps QUALITY with regards to donations) Canned goods Snacks/biscuits (no junk food please) Rice Powdered milk/juices for other food stuff please feel free to ask We will NOT accept non-food items ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ COMPOSITION 1. standard army composition with theme forces allowed. 2. non-new players playing vs non-new players MAY NOT play below 50 pts. New players are defined as those who have not played in more than 3 official events 3. factions may not be changed throughout the event for one entry 4. a list (or ibodger) is required and must be shown before deployment 5. original cards must be used or an exact copy (black and white ok) but no other cards will be allowed (specially the home made ones) 6. proxies are NOT allowed and all models MUST be assembled. Paint is optional but recommended (as you can see below) -------------------------------------------------------- GAMES There is a limit of 3 games per opponent for this league. However, certain prizes will only be eligible for those who play against all players equally. There are also corresponding bonuses outlined below in scoring There will be a 6 round limit and I recommend the use of deathclocks to maximize number of games per day (60 min each for 35pts, 80 min each for 50pts and 90 min each for 75) If the round limit has been reached, the tie breaker will be control points, if that is still tied the game is considered a draw but is scored as a loss Mangsky will serve as the tournament organizer and official referee for the event ----------------------------------------------------------- SCORING 1 Lose a 35 pt game 4 Win a 35 pt game 2 Lose a 50 pt game 5 Win a 50 pt game 3 Lose a 75 pt game 6 Win a 75 pt game PER GAME BONUSES +1 playing with fully painted army (at least 4 colors on the model) +1 per game if you have not participated in more than 3 other official events +1 winning a 75pt game without any characters (except caster/lock) BOASTS these must be declared after deployment and are only scored on a win you CANNOT cancel the boast once the game has started +1 will not use feat (pertaining to warlock/warcaster) +1 will play with a -10% pt penalty (32 pts in 35, 45 in 50 and 68 in 75) +2 will not directly attack opponent's caster (no direct attack roll) SPECIAL GRUDGE BONUSES/PENALTIES +1 for winning a game against past 2011 league winners (mangsky, kim) +2 for winning vs an opponent who had beaten you twice already -2 for winning vs an opponent you had beaten twice already END OF LEAGUE BONUSES (these are not mutually exclusive, i.e. they stack) +5 for playing at least 11 different warcasters or warlocks +10 for winning at least one game for each of the 11 different warcasters or warlocks +5 for playing half your games with a theme tier 4 list +10 for winning half your games with a theme tier 4 list +15 for not losing any warcaster or warlock in any game +5 for playing a mercenary or minion army please note that conceding/forfeiting a match allows your opponent to choose the victory condition ----------------------------------------------------- SCENARIOS and TABLES tables at pitshop are already pre-set (3 tables) we will be having only ONE scenario for the entire duration of the league - REVELATION 2011 HOWEVER, there will be varying game conditions for every game played At the beginning of each game PRIOR to deployment. Roll a D6 1 - TRANQUILITY : no special battlefield effects 2 - DARK SKIES : for the first 2 rounds, LOS is reduced to 5" 3 - ROLLING DEATH : all models gain concealment for the entire game (eyeless and true sight does not ignore this concealment) 4 - THUNDERSTORM : no spells (or magic ability) may be cast on the 3rd and 4th rounds 5 - BROKEN GROUND : for the last 2 rounds all models SPD stat is reduced to HALF (SPD/2) 6 - GLIMMER : all models gain FEARLESS for the entire game ------------------------------------------------------ PRIZES The following players will receive a medal JUGGERNAUT - the player who scores the most points at the end of the league* DESTROYER - the player that has the best win-loss percentage* BERSERKER - the player that played the most number of games BEAST - the player that scored the most BOAST points* DEMOLISHER - the player that scores the most bonus points at the end of the league*** *additional requirement that this player must have played the top 5 players at least 2x each *** additional requirement that his player must be in the bottom half of the standings The top 5 players who did NOT get a medal will also receive a faction coin All players that played against all participants at least 2x will get a grab from our renewed loot bag |
| iskat999 |
Posted: Nov 28 2011, 07:11 PM
|
|
Member Group: Members Posts: 41 Member No.: 255 Joined: 16-February 10 |
Im guessing 50 points and latest Steam Roller rules?
|
| Dee-el |
Posted: Nov 28 2011, 08:48 PM
|
|
Accredited buyer/seller Group: Members Posts: 1,437 Member No.: 6 Joined: 3-October 07 |
League rules usually allow games of varying pointages from 25 to 100, with the missions/ scenarios changing from week to week.
Also included are point bonuses from varying boasts or handicaps |
| jojoburra |
Posted: Nov 29 2011, 07:29 PM
|
|
Member Group: Members Posts: 32 Member No.: 432 Joined: 15-June 11 |
December 1 starts this thursday. Any1 wanna start playing? Fortress or Pitshop? I'm free this weekend.
|
| mangsky |
Posted: Nov 29 2011, 07:36 PM
|
|
Supplier, Accredited buyer/seller Group: Members Posts: 2,679 Member No.: 14 Joined: 3-October 07 |
complete rules in 24 hours
|
| mangsky |
Posted: Nov 29 2011, 08:14 PM
|
|
Supplier, Accredited buyer/seller Group: Members Posts: 2,679 Member No.: 14 Joined: 3-October 07 |
scoring information added
dan, i need sr2012 rules , will check if we will apply them to this league |
| daemonruss |
Posted: Nov 29 2011, 08:24 PM
|
|
Press Ganger, Accredited buyer/seller Group: Members Posts: 3,308 Member No.: 17 Joined: 4-October 07 |
whats your email?
|
| mangsky |
Posted: Nov 30 2011, 12:13 AM
|
|
Supplier, Accredited buyer/seller Group: Members Posts: 2,679 Member No.: 14 Joined: 3-October 07 |
hmm, no significant changes
and no access to the public so it will have to be out for now but very likely that we will implement killbox on all scenarios , not that hard anyways, just 10" away from ALL edges... |
| daemonruss |
Posted: Nov 30 2011, 12:18 AM
|
|
Press Ganger, Accredited buyer/seller Group: Members Posts: 3,308 Member No.: 17 Joined: 4-October 07 |
we're allowed to test it
one change you might have missed was 7" deployment for 1st player |
| mangsky |
Posted: Nov 30 2011, 12:33 AM
|
|
Supplier, Accredited buyer/seller Group: Members Posts: 2,679 Member No.: 14 Joined: 3-October 07 |
yeah I know, but I dont think a league is the right time to test it considering we have a bunch of players who dont even know the scenarios yet...
the 7" is really no biggie, I dont think it really matters much what I do find interesting are the flank deployments, although I do prefer quarters as they are easier to measure.... anyway, updated the scenarios already... decided on only ONE scenario for the entire league lol but with varying game conditions hehe |
| daemonruss |
Posted: Nov 30 2011, 12:47 AM
|
|
Press Ganger, Accredited buyer/seller Group: Members Posts: 3,308 Member No.: 17 Joined: 4-October 07 |
ouch on effects #3 and #4
makes me have to think up some new lists just in case |
| mangsky |
Posted: Nov 30 2011, 04:52 AM
|
|
Supplier, Accredited buyer/seller Group: Members Posts: 2,679 Member No.: 14 Joined: 3-October 07 |
the different effects can affect different lists in various ways
point is, its anybody's game sometimes remember that the effects go both ways |
| mangsky |
Posted: Nov 30 2011, 12:04 PM
|
|
Supplier, Accredited buyer/seller Group: Members Posts: 2,679 Member No.: 14 Joined: 3-October 07 |
final rules are up
|
| zionson |
Posted: Nov 30 2011, 12:29 PM
|
|
Member Group: Members Posts: 266 Member No.: 313 Joined: 3-October 10 |
Some questions:
- What about the factions with less than 11 casters/locks? - Can newbies be defined as folks who started in Mk II? Lots of players struggle to get 50, especially those who just started the game this year. I've played a couple of events, but I have to admit I was probably way in over my head playing 50 points during the Masters, which was the first time I played at that pointage. |
| daemonruss |
Posted: Nov 30 2011, 01:00 PM
|
|
Press Ganger, Accredited buyer/seller Group: Members Posts: 3,308 Member No.: 17 Joined: 4-October 07 |
i have 10 warlocks 11 when epic vayl comes out
maybe one award should go to the one with the worst win/loss record with the most games...you should reward perseverance |
| mangsky |
Posted: Nov 30 2011, 01:51 PM
|
|
Supplier, Accredited buyer/seller Group: Members Posts: 2,679 Member No.: 14 Joined: 3-October 07 |
zionson- i believe this will only be your 3rd event so YES, you qualify
minions and mercs automatically get +5 pts just for playing and you can get bonuses for playing with tiers pa rin. we have to reward those who can play multiple casters for the simple reason that its a helluva hard to play with 11 daemon - good idea, will think of something |
| mangsky |
Posted: Nov 30 2011, 02:01 PM
|
|
Supplier, Accredited buyer/seller Group: Members Posts: 2,679 Member No.: 14 Joined: 3-October 07 |
updated
|
| Dee-el |
Posted: Nov 30 2011, 04:38 PM
|
|
Accredited buyer/seller Group: Members Posts: 1,437 Member No.: 6 Joined: 3-October 07 |
I only have 12 of 13 warcasters and can only play 6 at tier 4.
I think its reasonable to say that only those with relatively extensive collections can attempt to catch those bonuses. And unfortunately the bonuses are actually large enough to sway the results. I think it should be cut by half or be exclusive. Let's say you win 11 games for the league at 50 points = 55 points. All those bonuses at the end stack up to get an extra whopping 55 points!!! |
| zionson |
Posted: Nov 30 2011, 06:03 PM
|
||
|
Member Group: Members Posts: 266 Member No.: 313 Joined: 3-October 10 |
Yeah, I agree. I think the bonuses are skewed towards those with relatively big collections. |
||
| mangsky |
Posted: Nov 30 2011, 06:21 PM
|
|
Supplier, Accredited buyer/seller Group: Members Posts: 2,679 Member No.: 14 Joined: 3-October 07 |
no worries, I will modify the bonuses later
but take note , a large collection does NOT = wins I think its pretty darn difficult to get all those bonuses just playing 11 casters to WIN is a bit hard EDIT DONE |
| Dee-el |
Posted: Nov 30 2011, 06:49 PM
|
|
Accredited buyer/seller Group: Members Posts: 1,437 Member No.: 6 Joined: 3-October 07 |
Those bonuses are much more reasonable.
Still it is the point of a league to award dedicated players and player who have amassed a large collection--otherwise what would be the point of having all those models without getting any benefits from them? I think the 11 warcaster thing is the easiest to do. But honestly Mang, you really find it difficult to score all those? |
| zionson |
Posted: Nov 30 2011, 09:36 PM
|
|
Member Group: Members Posts: 266 Member No.: 313 Joined: 3-October 10 |
For the grudge bonuses, opponents who have beaten you twice/whom you've beaten twice -- WITHIN the league? or historically?
|
| Dee-el |
Posted: Nov 30 2011, 10:19 PM
|
|
Accredited buyer/seller Group: Members Posts: 1,437 Member No.: 6 Joined: 3-October 07 |
Within the league
|
| mangsky |
Posted: Nov 30 2011, 11:12 PM
|
|
Supplier, Accredited buyer/seller Group: Members Posts: 2,679 Member No.: 14 Joined: 3-October 07 |
yes only within the league
we wont count any of those fun games hehe I personally think the 11 caster bonus is urm , of slight difficulty and winning half as tier 4 is quite a bit more difficult and I am NOT playing the overpowered faction... if Garrick feels like playing my cryx.... |
| zionson |
Posted: Nov 30 2011, 11:23 PM
|
|
Member Group: Members Posts: 266 Member No.: 313 Joined: 3-October 10 |
There should be a bonus for WINNING with Minions/Mercs lol
|
Pages: (4) [1] 2 3 ... Last » |
![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
|
![]() |
