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 Salary Cap Reconfiguration
 
Yes or No
Yes [ 6 ]  [50.00%]
No [ 6 ]  [50.00%]
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Penguins
Posted on Jun 12 2012, 03:11 PM


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QUOTE (Rangers @ Jun 11 2012, 11:14 PM)

The change wouldn't increase the cap.  Instead, it would make the cap flexible.

If this league is around in three years, a change in the way we calculate our cap will be needed.  My plan would be a proactive move in anticipation of future NHL cap increases.



Should we change from using NHL Salary Cap + $25 million to NYR's suggestion of using NHL Salary Cap X 1.4 (140%)? Please vote yes or no.
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Rangers
Posted on Jun 12 2012, 04:23 PM


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Can someone who voted no explain why they don't like this idea?

I'm legitimately curious.
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Sharks
Posted on Jun 12 2012, 06:10 PM


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I just prefer the way its been done all along. Don't see why its a need to change it.
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Rangers
Posted on Jun 13 2012, 01:10 PM


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Fear of change often blocks the path to progress.

If that is the league's best reason for not making the improvement, I suppose there's no use in trying to argue about it. You can't outwit fear.


EDIT: For the sake of the future playabillity of this league, I hope that the cap is cut in the new CBA. If the players continue to earn $12m contracts, we'll be stuck with teams full of third and fourth line goons.

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Sharks
Posted on Jun 13 2012, 02:35 PM


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QUOTE (Rangers @ Jun 13 2012, 01:10 PM)
Fear of change often blocks the path to progress.

If that is the league's best reason for not making the improvement, I suppose there's no use in trying to argue about it.  You can't outwit fear.


EDIT: For the sake of the future playabillity of this league, I hope that the cap is cut in the new CBA. If the players continue to earn $12m contracts, we'll be stuck with teams full of third and fourth line goons.

Uhm, yeah. I fear a change in a fantasy hockey league. blink.gif

Even if I change my vote, it still doesn't matter.

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Rangers
Posted on Jun 13 2012, 03:15 PM


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I'm not just talking to you.


Fear, laziness, ignorance....take your pick. These are the only reasons to vote against a definitively positive change in the league rules.

You either misunderstand the change, you're too lazy to bother to understand, or you are afraid of things you don't understand.

I've been preaching this change for three years, and nobody has ever provided a single logical reason to oppose it.




Will the league be ruined because we don't change the rule? Probably not.

Will the league be more prepared for changes in the upcoming CBA and future cap increases if we do make the change? Definitely.


That's all I'm saying.

We're missing an opportunity to make a simple change to improve the league's future flexibility. If people don't care enough to see that, there's not much that my reasoning with them will do to change their minds.
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Sharks
Posted on Jun 13 2012, 03:49 PM


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It really doesnt matter to me what it is. My cap situation is fine regardless. It's not laziness, ignorance or fear. I just don't see why its a big deal to you.

and we have 24 guests on the forum. what the hell is up with that? Never seen that many before.

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Rangers
Posted on Jun 13 2012, 04:10 PM


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It matters to me because I enjoy the league the way it is RIGHT NOW.

Making this change will lock in the CURRENT cap ratio, no matter what happens with the NHL in the future.

That's the thing that has me so frustrated.

People don't like change unless they are fixing an already evident problem. I get that. It's easier to be reactive than proactive.

The problem is that, in this case, doing nothing will actually bring about change for the worse in the future.
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Sharks
Posted on Jun 13 2012, 04:52 PM


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I'll change my vote then, but we're still going to be either at a stand still or in favor of no change.
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Posted on Jun 13 2012, 06:54 PM


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i voted for the change, i feel that NYR has a strong understanding of why this is good. if anyone else feels their vote would change after seeing what has been posted in this thread, let me know. either via here or PM. if we stay the course we are now with the +25, that's fine as well. perhaps we can revisit this next offseason.
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Posted on Jun 13 2012, 06:55 PM


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QUOTE (Penguins @ Jun 13 2012, 06:54 PM)
i voted for the change, i feel that NYR has a strong understanding of why this is good. if anyone else feels their vote would change after seeing what has been posted in this thread, let me know. either via here or PM. if we stay the course we are now with the +25, that's fine as well. perhaps we can revisit this next offseason.

Ill change mine to yes
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cupper66
Posted on Jun 13 2012, 07:01 PM


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Sounds good
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Penguins
Posted on Jun 13 2012, 07:07 PM


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NYR do you have anything mathematics-wise that would work with the $1.75 waiver rule?

I don't know if I worded that right, does it make sense?
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Rangers
Posted on Jun 13 2012, 08:50 PM


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QUOTE (Penguins @ Jun 13 2012, 08:07 PM)
NYR do you have anything mathematics-wise that would work with the $1.75 waiver rule?

I don't know if I worded that right, does it make sense?

If we were happy with $1.75m as the waiver cut off when the rules were written, that number represented approximately 2% of our league's cap.

If we wanted to go to a proportional waiver system, that would probably be the number to use.

FWIW, that would place this year's waiver limit at $1.9m.
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Blackhawks
Posted on Jun 14 2012, 05:08 PM


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I voted yes. I definitely don't see an end to inflation unless our entire economic structure collapses, in which case, we'll have bigger things to worry about than fantasy hockey.
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Blackhawks
Posted on Jun 14 2012, 05:11 PM


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Also in favor of changing the waiver cap to a percentage. For what it's worth, that wouldn't put any of my current players under the cap, I just think it would be good for the future.
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Posted on Jun 14 2012, 08:18 PM


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Go ahead and change mine to yes
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