Zelink vs Link/instert name *SPOLIERS*

I hope whatever I said didn't sound like bashing, because I don't hate Ilia. *Thinks* I don't hate anyone in the Zelda universe. Except maybe Dark Link, and it's really because of the fanbase itself. -.-
Sincerely, he was hella fun to fight!

chibizelda: Believe me, avoid using ''freedom of speech'' as an excuse, whatever happens.
Don't take it personally. So what you said can offend some people here. Ok. Just keep that in mind the next time you need to say you hate Ilia. Keep in mind you should avoid provocation.



I've seen some people like the Link X Navi pairing. Weird, WEIRD idea, but I do admit that, unlike a lot of fans out there say, Link does NOT dislike Navi. She was with him all the time during those hardships, helping him. Sure she was annoying to the player, and I can't hlp but to think Link might have snapped every now and then for different reasons but really, she was meant to get on OUR nerves, not his. Plot-wise, her telling him ''what would Saria think?'' would've sufficed once, or even twice if he was too hurt to return to the Kokiri Village. But gameplay-wise, Navi was programmed not to stop until WE did what she wanted us to do. XD Because she can't hear us say ''yeah, after this fishing trip why not.''
Anyhow. True love? No way, forget it. Eeew.
But they do care. <3
*Likes Navi even with all the traumatising ''HEY LISTEN''s*

To me LinkxNavi is one of purity & innocence and Link felt nothing more than child like emotional attachment to her. I agree with you that Navi was meant to annoy us more than Link was to be annoyed by her for sure. To me Navi was the close friend who helped little Link to cope with his loneliness in being an emotionally introverted cherub like kokiri social outcast and was not meant to be a romantic interest IMO. I lump the LinkxNavi romance with the other weird and bizarre child Link getting molested theories involving Rararu, Saria, and Child Zelda.

Eh. I accept most-but NOT ilia/Link. It's one of total wierdness and ugliness (on ILIa's part) She is not pretty. She is not charming or talented. She has gross hair. And I am not bashing! I mean, somone put something up saying they hate Midna,a nd another one for Ilia. I mean, seriously...
BuT I like Navi and Link. It's cute :3

Yes...in a cute & innocent way LinkxNavi is acceptable. But I still don't think they should be romantically involved. The notion of Navi touching little or big Link in sensual special places is a tad disturbing IMO. Speaking of Illia she seemed to have an unusual obsession for Epona don't you think? Though I have read a couple of weird LinkxEpona fanfic theories awhile back, I think IlliaxEpona would be a better match IMO.

Most of that kind of didn't make any sense. But I digress.

The thread entitled "I hate Midna" had nothing to do with hating Midna as a character. It discussed disliking the Midna/Link ship because it seemed to have more backing than ZeLink in TP. Even the thread discussing Ilia is done in a respectful manner. Even though the general gist of the thread doesn't necessarily put Ilia in a positive light. You can talk negatively about a character and still maintain a sense of dignity. I find it rather difficult to respect your opinion when you so obviously have very little respect for other people's opinions. I was once indifferent to Ilia and now I'm starting to like her. All thanks to you. Kudos.

Edit: Oh! And! No one is trying to force you to accept Link/Ilia. All I am asking is that you stop bashing Ilia's character. You don't like her. We get it. It's gotten to the point where it's getting excessive and annoying.

Saying Ilia has no talent is a lie. She successfully crafted a thingamajig for Link to call up Epona anytime. Her hair IS weird and doesn't go well with her plain looks, but that doesn't make downright ugly in my opinion.

Link needs a beautiful woman who has enough character and knowledge for him, though. I believe he'll always find a way to get in trouble even after settling down for a ''normal'' (boring) life, with his habit of helping everyone he sees. His girl shouldn't be the type to watch him struggle and pray for his safety, (meaning no Ilia, please). She should be able to help him, or at least give him good helpful advice.

Malon's Lover, please stop bringing intimacy into the conversation. This is not the time nor the place for it. You've been warned before. There are younger people on this forum that are under 18, so you should try to respect that. There's more to life than just that, anyway.

I don't think I'm saying anything new that a 14 year old with freshmen health/sex education would already know. Plus what does me stating my disgust with fanfic/theories of child Link getting molested have to do with intimacy?? As far as intimacy itself is concerned if you can't be intimate with your potential romantic lover then you are only a close friend period. I have never heard of a romance/marriage realistically working out based on celebacy. Usually it results in divorce if anything.

Though I respect your unique view of a LinkxZelda romance with Link being the always gentle & obedient eternal virgin, most Zelinkers seem to want Link and Zelda to be married and to share a bed together if you ask me. IMO there is nothing wrong with discussing intimacy. Its not like I want to SERIOUSLY discuss pornography or anything with an inappropriate nature. And its pretty obvious that I'm not remotely serious about IlliaxEpona in that I was joking about her being overprotective with Epona. Lighten up a little TM.

I think that's what she meant, in a ''you don't need to get into details'' way.

I think, I might be wrong.

It did make me raise an eyebrow, then again *backs off* that's as far as I'll go with my opinion here.


If for some reason Link end his life in Termina, he would look cute with Romani. Playing around shooting things as kids, then developping a nice bond as adults. She had a good amount of bravery that made her try to fight off the alien invaders, guarding the cows while Link did his best to keep the ETs away on his side.
Yup, I like Romani. That crazy little girl.
But I am with those who believe Link didn't stay in Termina (stuck or not).

As a Zelinker I am a bit weird. I am convinced Link and Zelda have a strong bond that has nothing to do with the sibling theory. A strong bond that makes them awesome as a duo. I can imagine them being romantic. But I somehow don't mind if they never get together.
I CAN read happy love stories, but I CAN'T write them, thus meaning I have a hard time imagining them.
Some other girls can look good with him (like Malon or Romani), but what some non-ZeLink fanfics lack is his bond with Zelda no matter what. Don't need to get kissy and add in a love triangle, but don't need to erase Zelda either. Even if she's stuck in Hyrule while Link lives somewhere far away, she'll still be in his memories.
She's not a passive princess. Not as toboyish as some think (she still has that feminine side that doesn't let her run around poking people for a fight) but she's even less a helpless character (Sheik, for crying out loud.)
Roar at some people.
Forgive the princess if she couldn't fight off a darned ring of fire. I'm guessing Sheik and even Link aren't fire-proof either. And I better rant another day.



I'm really happy I haven't found a Link X Zant yet. I hope it stays that way.
But Link kissing Midna in IMP form was weird. *Stares awkwardly at Japanese fansites*

Malon's Lover, that should not be your judgement. You do not know what others need, and it's not proper to teach them that it's the primary aspect in a relationship, anyway. There are people that are even younger than 14, so knock it off. You don't need to constantly continue bringing it into the conversation because you think it makes you look older and wiser; it just makes you look immature because you don't seem to value the emotional end of it. Anyway, please don't argue. Just keep those opinions to yourself being that there are really young people on here who are only 10/11 years old. Should you choose to ignore this request, I'll get one of the Mod's on your case because I'm really sick of the topic of intimacy.

P.S If you've noticed, I haven't even discussed the relationship with Zelink in my recent posts, Malons Lover. I'm just sick and tired that you do not value women the way you should, that you do not value love the way you should. There's so much more to a relationship than what you're talking about. You're talking about lust, not love. Stop being lead by your horomones.

Well I apologize to all the parents of the kiddies who have been permanently traumatized by my posts. I just think its weird that I have to talk like a baby with people that are generally 18 and over due to parents being unable to monitor their 10 year olds on the internet. As for the subject of intimacy most ADULTS see it as a beautiful thing that can be shared between a man and a woman, so not everyone believes that its something thats horribly dirty and pornographic as you do. If your as smart and mature as you claim to be you would be able to easily understand this. I just don't see the Link as an eternal virgin realistically working out in a LinkxZelda IMO. But if you or anyone else ever find their real life submissively obedient Link fantasy/dreamboat and have a look but don't touch relationship forever, then if that makes them happy thats great.

TO KOKIRIAN CLOCKWORK: Yeah I have never read a LinkxZant theory/fanfic as well but I'm sure there is one floating around somewhere. I agree with how non Zelink fanfics seem to ignore Zelda overall. I have never written a fanfic but if I did, OOT/MM Link and Zelda would always have that close bond as childhood friends. Of course Link is romantically involved with Malon in my theory but I would like to believe that Link would maintain his close friendship with Zelda and work with her as a duo/team as you said in protecting the people of Hyrule.

To Malonslover: I am 14, and a girl, and am not bothered by your thoughts. That's hwy I wrote this thing in teh first place. To hear poeple's thoughts. It was meant to be discusded, and to Saami, it's not "bash the writer". So, Malonslover, I have no qualms about your thoughts! ^^

@MalonsLover: I don't think she means not talking about sex ever in a relationship. I mean sure it's bound to come up every now and then. But I think the point is tact. You know? Being tactful and discerning when something that sensitive should be brought up in a conversation. There's a time and a place for everything and knowing that is really helpful for avoiding confrontation like this. And honestly, every single thread is NOT the time nor the place. But to me personally, I don't really care what people read on the internet. It's parents' responsibility and whatnot. But you know, that's not an excuse for people to lose their minds.

@chibizelda: Well. Okay then.

True..I mean these are just video game characters. Losing our minds and getting oversensitive about things is something you should address to TM not me. Again I don't like double standards if this thread is for this type of discussion but I have to act like I'm having a conversation with a 10 year old. Its totally hypocritical if you ask me. I'm cool with the more G-rated Peter Pan like innocence of the LinkxZelda relationship but it does not translate well to a teen/young adult demographic who generally want Link to mentally grow into his own man and have the NORMAL desire to want a perfectly NORMAL adult romantic relationship. If a young teenager like chibizelda has the maturity to want to discuss these issues in a mature non vulgar manner I fail to see what the problem is.

I am very mature for my age and very smart, so that has nothing to do with it. I understand perfectly well that it is present in relationships, but that shouldn't be the focus of attention. Love has to do with the fact that you feel an unconditional love towards another person, accepting them for who they are no matter their appearance. True love is one that is able to pinpoint someone's inner beauty that creates a gateway to your own. That's what love is all about. No strings attached; the two people are together only because they are in love, not because they expect or want anything in return.

Anyway, just control yourself. Like Saami said, you don't need to constantly be bringing it up in conversations. I find it distasteful, in my opinion. Besides that, it doesn't make you appear older, anyway.