Zelink vs Link/instert name *SPOLIERS*

I just have to say that I adore Shad/Zelda. In TP, Zelda... is not Link's age- that's obvious. Compare her and Ilia, and you see it even more. Shad is more around Zelda's age... and he's hot. I mean, yeah, Link was hot in OoT n stuff, but... well, not in TP (IMO). In TP, Link was too scrawny and boyish for my tastes. While I do support the Link x Zelda thing regardless of age difference in TP, I still think that Zelda would prefer a man. Shad's smart and charming. And, if you actually take a good look at him, he's got some muscle. ;D Shad is a smexy, smexy man, I must say.

But.. I don't want Midna to come back. I love, love, LOVE Midna, but the ending suited her so well. She became a stronger, more understanding a mature ruler, and she chose protecting both realms over her own romantic interests. That shows a lot of character development on her part. I wouldn't want to destroy that.

What many people don't look into is the fact that Midna and Zelda are two sides of the same coin, as phrased in the game itself. They are almost identical and parallel at the same time. The way Zelda behaves outwardly is the way Midna is inwardly, and the way Midna behaves outwardly is the way Zelda is inwardly. The romance between Midna and Link started after Midna and Zelda had become one- that's quite significant. If Link and Midna could share romance, then so could Link and Zelda. TP is odd anyway... it's lilia, lidna, and zelink all at the same time.

Even if Midna did come back, I doubt anything would truly happen between her and Link. Ultimately, she is the ruler of the Twilight Realm. I not think she would leave her people behind. Link could go there himself, yes, but I honestly don't think that's something he'd end up doing. It's not TLoZ-esque.

Perhaps a TP sequel would be a good thing. I'd like to know where Link went off to at the end of TP. Maybe he travels to another land and saves others. The original Link was an adventurer, LA!Link traveled to find ways to protect Hyrule, OoT/MM!Link traveled, TWW/PH!Link joined a band of pirates.... so what does TP!Link do? Does he eventually return to his home like ALttP!Link? Maybe he becomes Zelda's guardian? Who knows? I demand an answer!



I do, however, want to see a TWW/PH sequel. I'm very interested in the "new world" that Link and Tetra are going to explore. I want to know more about the races, etc. Plus, they really emphasized personality in the games, and I'd love to see more of it.

I think it's interesting to see the duality between Midna and Zelda. One is shadow and the other, light. However! When I consider it they appear more compatible with each other, as opposed to somehow sharing equal grounds in romance with Link. Where Link plays into their duality I don't see other than acting as a third party, a connection between them. Either way Midna left the realm of light for the sake of their peoples (a very strong facet of her character, like you previously mentioned) so if we want to go about it in a more simple manner Zelda has a better advantage than she would.

Yeah, although I consider myself a ZeLink, I know that if TP gets a sequel it won't be ZeLink, and it actually doesn't bother me.
Midna coming back would cut the drama for me, not enhance it no matter how I look at it.
Seriously.
''It's painful, but I have to go, forever! *two months later* Ohai Link I'm back. What's for dinner?''

Even if I was a hopeless MidLink, it would cut the drama. As if Tristan and Isolde lived at the end for some reason. If you don't get Tristan and Isolde: as if Romeo and Juliet just faked their death or came back to life and really married somewhere else.
So, gone forever isn't dead, buuuuuut I consider them really, really similar when it comes to not seeing a loved one or hearing about him/her ever again.

Even if Midna did come back for a serious reason Nintendo won't clearly make her hook up with Link.
Really, the 3 girls are there for a reason.

If there's a sequel I doubt there'll even be a role for Zelda.
I think Link will leave Hyrule.

I'm convinced they're making a brand new one.
I'm hoping it's about the new Hyrule. I -would- like a sequel to WW, but if it's just in the same timeline it won't matter. (Yeah, PH is a sequel to WW, but plotwise... let's just say it was more an excuse to explore the DS' possibilities. And it's a great game, mind you.)
WW adult era: I want to see that! No not for Link X Tetra fluff. Really, WW Link has a bright future and I want to see it!

Zeruda: You mean boyish as ''less manly'', right? Because I strangely find OoT Link to be more ''boyish'', but as in... ''less fine features''...
Anyway, I like both, a lot.
You are right though, Link is supposed to be like 16 in TP, and Zelda looks like 20. ^^ Not sure. She won't tell me her age.
I think he needs to mature before getting his chance.

Yeah..if a TP sequel is done in a way without pissing off the Midna and Zelda fans that would be good for sure. Either way...I will play the next Zelda game TP sequel or not. Though I agree that the well hinted age difference between TP Link and Zelda makes them far less romantically compatible than OOT Link and Zelda who are relatively the exact same age. And I assume Zeruda is going by the official art when she says OOT Link is hotter than TP Link. (Thinks of in game adult OOT Link with ugly pointy nose and creepy blank stare) Forest child in a mans body with a fairy floating around him = Novelty circus freakshow IMO.

I do find it funny to see a grown man walk around in Kokiri cosplay sometimes (when I start to wonder about all the details that make OoT weird), but like I said:
One guy with a fairy is less weird than rock men in my own opinion.
Lol!
And fairies don't seem to be that rare a sight. So if some think green is hot, it's still less weird than a Goron.
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Yeah, I'm guessing she means the official art.

Zeruda: Ok, so I just found out what scrawny meant (don't know why I didn't search the word before). Never mind then. XD



Edit: But if we add in OoT Link's dressing code in details that point out his personality, he's the saddest Link I've seen yet.
Identity crisis of some sort.
Gosh those are hard to deal with.
Loosing 7 years of his life didn't help.

You know..I always felt OOT/MM Link seemed kind of sad looking when compared to the more happier WW Link. Must be the whole social misfit thing with not fitting in as a Kokiri or a Hylian. And like you said, 7 years lost life experience to literally make him a young man with the sexual innocence of a 10 year old doesn't help much either. AAAWWW poor little baby OOT/MM Link.

Exactly. OoT/MM!Link probably has more issues than any other Link. He has to leave his best friend and what he thought was home twice. He finds out he's not a Kokiri, so ultimately, he must leave. Now he knows he's a Hylian, but he has nowhere to go except back to Zelda (which he actually does, rebuilding their friendship after being sent back to his own time, then returning again after MM).

On top of that, he does have the sexual innocence of a little 10-year-old, but then wakes up with a mandong. If you want to get really into it, you can assume that, even with his lack of sexual knowledge, he undoubtedly would feel the urges of a 17-year-old. Then he gets thrust back into the life of a 10-year-old, and now knows about sexual urges, but may or may not feel them now that's he's 10 again.

On top of having to leave his best friend, Saria, he loses his close friend and mentor, Navi. His adventure in Termina yields no results in finding her, and he must contend with the possibility that she may belong to some other kid now. He also bears the responsibility of telling going back to Zelda after being sent back to his own time, and instead of re-embarking on the quest to gather the spiritual stones, he has to convince her that he already did that whole thing, and the results were horrific. According to Aonuma, Ganondorf isn't even executed right away:

"...In the last scene of Ocarina of Time, kids
Link and Zelda have a little talk, and as a consequence of that
talk, their relationship with Ganon takes a whole new direction.
In the middle of this game [Twilight Princess], there's a scene
showing Ganon's execution. It was decided that Ganon be executed
because he'd do something outrageous if they left him be. That
scene takes place several years after Ocarina of Time. Ganon was
sent to another world and now he wants to obtain the power..."

So, after Link is sent back to his own time and has to convince Zelda of all that happened, the execution doesn't even happen until years later. SO all the while he's in Termina and even after he returns, he knows Ganondorf is still alive, and he has to stress about it until years later when Ganon gets executed.

OoT/MM!Link has it rough. Really rough.

Well said on OOT/MM Link. If I was 10 years old and had experienced going back and forth from child to young man over and over again, I would have a sad & melancholic demeanor/expression as well. I always imagined adult OOT Link must be asking himself:

Who am I?

Am I a boy or a man?

Why am I wearing these funny looking virgin white tights?

Where did all this pubic hair come from?

OOT/MM Link has it bad indeed.

Just, no.
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I don't even think he cares, lots of grown men in OoT wore very tight-looking pants.



I'd love to explore OoT/MM Link's confusion further. I'm even taking notes as I'm playing it again! Eventually I'll get to the adult part.
Gah, taking notes is so darn long.


Seeing how much damage Ganondorf did before being sealed away in TP, I'm guessing it was pretty hard on Link indeed.
I'm trying to link all the details and information together but man is this complicated.
Maybe he woke the sages, or they woke themselves. Don't think he would've opened the door of Time, or maybe he did since TP Link and Zelda... And Ganondorf have the Triforce..

Or I'm just misunderstanding something.
And this isn't the right thread for my mumbling.

Hey, tights are manly. It used to be that only guys wore them. They're a whole lot more functional for running around doing things than the baggy pants nowadays. Athletes like cyclists still wear tights because it's the best way to keep warm and retain easy movement.

I never thought Link was confused for long after he woke up. He probably woke up thinking, "What was I just doing?... Last thing I remember, I was trying to save the world." And then somebody comes along and explains to him how he can continue trying to save the world. With that goal unchanged, he'd probably be focusing on it and would be more likely to notice physical changes more gradually.

OOT Link has a similar parallel to the comic book hero Captain Marvel with a young boy in a mans body that enabled him to do heroic things. But as Zeruda referenced, he may have been able to feel sexual urges but its doubtful that he would have been able to fully comprehend what manly errections were all about. OOT Link seemed to exude purity and innocence from every pore of his being throughout the entire quest.

I have read some theories that say Link had an errection when he saw Ruto naked in the water temple which is why he had a comically awkward reaction. Also a pro LinkxZelda theory explains that Link had an errection in the scene in the sky around the time Zelda gently touched his hand when he gave back the ocarina. Thats why he was compelled to return to her at the end when his childhood was permanently restored, though he seemed unsure why since he now had the full innocence of his child like mind once again.

...Can we keep the discussion clean here?

THANK YOU

OOPS. ...Sorry, well you get the point. Nothing complicated. We can't help it even if some Zelinkers have dirty minds. Remember this is not my personal theory.

Back to the discussion about tights (and them being referred to as 'manly')...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pc1am3KyYgA

Had to be done, ohoho!