Link and Zelda. TWIN SIBLINGS??, The Twin Sibling Theory

For the last time: Nobody accused you for creating the theory.

This whole theory is weak to begin with.

And what people have been telling you time and time again is that you can't tell if somebody is related to oneother just by looks. That's like saying that every Zora is related, because they look the same. Or that Ilia and Colin are siblings, because both have blond hair. (And if you counter this "arguement" by saying they have different eye colours, I'm seriously gonna die of laughter.) I can't understand what you don't understand in this matter.

Dude...nobody is talking about TP. You seem really frustrated that you obviously can't come up with any decent counter arguements at all. Does Illia and Colin possess individual triforces?? DIDN'T THINK SO. The sibling theory in OOT still exists. Get over it and move on with your life and quit coming up with these laughably pathetic counter arguements.

gr33n already came up with the acceptable ones in his/her well thought out posts. Your counter arguements seemed more based on emotional frustration if anything. Colin and Illia?? Thats sad.

That, my friend, is known as an example. OoT doesn't have many hylians with same hair colour - unless you count a bunch of unnamed characters from the Market square or Kakariko Village. That's why I used Ilia and Colin as an example. But seems like nothing will do unless it's from OoT. Fine, here's an example from OoT: just because the kid in the Kakariko graveyard has orange/red hair AND blue eyes doesn't mean he's related to Malon. BUT appearantly by the sibling theory (or your statements, whichever) they should be. Happy now?

And I'm not trying to destroy the sibling theory, it existed before OoT and it will exist long after it. I just find it very silly that one of your reasons for the sibling theory to be true is that two blonde haired people have pieces of the triforce and non of these things require bloodties. Not blond hair, not blue eyes and certainly not the triforce peaces. Like gr33n already said:

If you'd have decent evidence, I'm sure I would.

Again...you seem to be ignoring the point that the fact that OOT Link and Zelda are the ONLY HYLIANS with similar hair and eye color along with the fact that they are the ONLY HYLIANS with a triforce, that by PROCESS OF ELIMINATION they would be the most likely to be closely related to each other as twin siblings than either one of them being related to Malon or Ganon. I'm not saying that Link and Zelda are related but more that it COULD be a possibility based on obvious subtle evidence WITHIN THE GAME ITSELF that a special needs child can understand.

I don't understand how you keep sticking your neck in here and keep saying that this is a weak arguement and then provide no support to back it up as to why. I suggest you ACTUALLY READ the arguements for and against the twin sibling theory and make an effort to BETTER UNDERSTAND the given points instead of focusing on trying to be confrontational with opinions that are based on silly and self defeating counter arguements. Such as using Malon, Ganon, Colin, and Illia as your best counter arguements. In two words EPIC FAIL.

If you don't understand with whats being discussed, then for the love of god quit responding to this thread PLEASE.

Look, we aren't ignoring the fact that Link and Zelda have similar colouring, we are simply saying that just because people look alike, it doesn't mean they're related. The reverse is also true, in that two people may be related, yet they look nothing alike.

What we're saying is that you can't tell who someone's related to by the way they look.

As for the Triforce, of course Link and Zelda both have a piece of it. They're the Hero and the Princess, and along with Ganondorf the Wizard Thief, they have been and always will be the main characters of the Legend of Zelda. It is for this reason, and not a blood relation, why Link and Zelda posses a piece of the Triforce.



Also, name calling is hardly the best way to support your arguments.

Yes I agree gr33n. The point that I was trying to point out to my Finnish friend TOXO is that the inherent subtle evidence within the OOT game that may or may not suggest that Link and Zelda are twin siblings spawned the inception of the comics/mangas to dissuade the doubt that they are not related. Fast foward to today and you have the non canon vs. canon debate that has allowed the twin sibling theory to linger to this day. Since MM ended the Child Timeline there is no certainty if Link did end up with Zelda, hence that debunks the possibility of incest issue blah blah. Anyway..if TOXO simply just used the destiny vs bloodline counter arguement instead of the silly Malon, Colin, and Illia counter arguements I would not have been so annoyed. Anyway..TOXO, No hard feelings.

Nope, no hard feelings here, either. We both got a bit steamed up with repeating things over and over, huh? Well, life is. Do continue the debate, though.

Ooh boy. Not even sure I want to touch this thread. Pretty much what the others have said in the against the sibling theory I agree with.

However, I want to point out another theory about Link's dreams. I rather like the idea that Zelda may have been trying to communicate with the hero by sending dreams. It's not completely farfetched and makes relative sense. But anyway- another theory. It's clear from the begining that Link is meant to be special, touched by destiny and so forth. Another idea is in many myths, cultures, and religions is that dreams are sent by deities to warn or help heros. So here's a thought- why couldn't the dreams have come from the goddesses? He's the chosen hero of the goddesses, they clearly have influence in his life, he's bestowed with powers close to that of the gods. So it makes sense that to prepare and warn Link of future events the goddesses could have sent him these dreams.

Secondly, the whole appearance thing is a very weak argument. There's a Hylian man in the town square who has bright red hair- by the same logic he could be Malon's real father, since Malon looks nothing like her father who has brown hair and brown eyes. Or that Malon and Anju are sisters- both Hylian women with red hair and blue eyes. I might point out that two siblings in the game, Anju and her brother who sits under the tree at night look nothing alike. Or I could say that the lakeside doctor and Anju's brother are related since they're both freakish in appearance with their white skin and odd looks. You can't determine who's related and who isn't based on appearance. People in families can often look nothing alike.

I also believe that it was confirmed somewhere besides the manga that Zelda is a few years older than Link.

Anyway, just my two cents tenatively thrown in here.

Its all about the bloodline vs. destiny issue. From what I researched, the in game coincidental similarities between Link and Zelda in physical appearance, triforces, prophetic dreams, overall vagueness of the parent of the same gender for Link and Zelda, intriguing quotes from Impa, Composer brothers, and Zelda herself made Zelda fans question on the possible blood relationship of Link and Zelda. Hence the creation of the comics/mangas to debunk the twin sibling theory. Now you have the canon vs. non-canon issue and blah blah blah to this day.

Uh, yeah, that's what you have been discussing for the past couple of pages, I get that.

Anyway, something else I thought of- as far as I remember, Anju's mother is never mentioned either, though her father is the carpenter. Neither is Malon's mother. There are lots of characters in the game who have only one parent mentioned. So esentially, it could easily just as be said that Link is related to one of them if we're going by that logic.

Also, regarding Zelda's Lullaby. Though it's said that only Royal family members are allowed to learn it, there are clearly other people who know it. Darunia knows the song and expects the one who plays it to be a messanger for the Royal Family. The Zora's too know the song. The allies of the Hyrulian Royal Family all know the song, but that doesn't mean that they are related by blood to them. Likewise, Impa and Link know the song because they are connected to the Royal Family by alligance, not by blood.

Yeah..the quotes are so subtle and vague that it could go either way with the bloodline vs. destiny issue. As for the coincidence with the missing parents of the same gender, it had to do with Link and Zelda being the FOCAL characters. I believe that Malon's mother was a Gerudo in reference to what Talon says when Link wears the Gerudo mask.

Whoa man, debates, debates. Not used to so much repetition. But since everything was already said, all that's left to say in my case is my own personal opinion.
-They are NOT related by blood.
-It -would- be cute if they are in a future Zelda game.
-Cute, but BORING. Couldn't the Triforce pieces be a little more imaginative?
-The Hero is always a descendant of Hylian Knights. Doesn't matter WHICH as long as they are worthy Hylian Knights.
-Some may have the blood of the Hero, but what's important is the Hylian Knights part.
-Hyrule's princess is always named Zelda in memory of the first Zelda.

That's all I know, or want to believe. I've read this thread and all arguments have been added at least once.

Well, since the manga has been used as a source in the past, I thought I'd add in what the English version of the OoT manga has to say. ( It arrived today )

Rauru tells Link he has royal Hylian Blood, like Princess Zelda...and that he was born to the house of a Knight in service to the King.

So I'm thinking that's a strike against the sibling theory ( again ) but it does peg Link as having noble blood, possibly coming of high ranking nobility. Canonly, it wouldn't surprise me either.

So could that indicate the Knights of Hyrule are of noble blood, hence coming from royalty themselves? I have no problem with that - if you want to believe Link is of the KofH and also that him and Zelda ever marry, the bloodline is bound to cross at some point.(s) Providing a Link and Zelda aren't close cousins, there's nothing to stop them from marrying though. ( As real life nobility did. )

Anyways, spare me the "not canon!" remarks. I'm well aware of it, and also my impression of the English translation is that the translator took some liberties in his understanding, when compared to the scanlations. I think it's still worth discussing, this is published material remember.

Speaking of that, are there any major differences between the translation of the English version and the translation of the scanned version on the Internet? I've heard some talk about that.

Speaking of that, are there any major differences between the translation of the English version and the translation of the scanned version on the Internet? I've heard some talk about that.

Actually there is: the meaning of the ending almost struck me as different. I'll go start a thread about that in the manga area.