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 Link and Zelda. TWIN SIBLINGS??, The Twin Sibling Theory
MalonsLover
Posted: Oct 4 2008, 07:55 AM


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Previously Love of Zelda requested that I get more info on the sibling theory. I browsed around other forums but instead of posting a big wordy essay from a sibling theorist I found this more simple summary.

1) They both have the same colorings (blonde hair, blue eyes, white skin).

2) They're both Hylians (duh!).

3) They're the same age (read that in one of the answer books).

4) The game talks about Link's mother, but never his father. And Zelda's father is mentioned, but never her mother. And if they were both born "before the King of Hyrule unified the land" when that fierce war was going on. . . .

5) They're both ones "of destiny" (Link was "a child of destiny" and Zelda was "the princess of destiny").

6) They were both chosen by the other two Triforce pieces.

7) It said that the Royal Family had "mysterious powers", and Link seems to have powers similar to that (both he and Zelda have prophetic dreams, remember?).

8) The ghosts of the composer brothers tell Link that he reminds them of Princess Zelda.

9) Impa said that only Royal Family members can learn Zelda's Lullaby. (Of course Zelda had a dream that Impa taught Link the song, but what did she mean that only Royal Family members can learn Zelda's Lullaby? Did Impa realize that Link was Zelda's brother, and therefore a member to the Royal Family?)


Impa's actual dialogue:
Only Royal Family members
are allowed to learn this song.
Remember, it will help to prove your connection with the Royal Family.


Also the prologue to MM about the story being cherished by the Royal Family could suggest that Link was part of the Royal Family by BLOOD rather than marriage. I also found this bit of interesting info from Zelda's dialogue in OOT.

What is your name?
.....
Link...
Strange...it sounds somehow...
familiar.


This suggests that Zelda had previously overheard Links name being mentioned by the King or other members of the Royal Family in reference to Link being Zelda's long lost sibling that she was not aware of at that particular time. More than likely after the OOT adventure, whether by the TOW or the King himself, that it would be revealed to Zelda that the name that she was previously familiar with was actually the name of her long lost twin sibling. So in essence the last scene in OOT represents the twin siblings with the TWIN triforces were finally reunited after being seperated as infants during the attack on Hyrule Town years before as referenced in the OOT manga. Thoughts or Opinions??
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Angel Zelda
Posted: Oct 4 2008, 05:26 PM


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QUOTE (MalonsLover @ Oct 4 2008, 07:55 AM)
1) They both have the same colorings (blonde hair, blue eyes, white skin).

So? Many people in the real world have similar hair and eye colors and aren't related.

QUOTE (MalonsLover @ Oct 4 2008, 07:55 AM)
2) They're both Hylians (duh!).

That doesn't prove anything. Going by that logic, I could make an argument that Link and Malon are siblings because they're both Hylians.

QUOTE (MalonsLover @ Oct 4 2008, 07:55 AM)
4) The game talks about Link's mother, but never his father. And Zelda's father is mentioned, but never her mother. And if they were both born "before the King of Hyrule unified the land" when that fierce war was going on. . . .

You conveniently fail to mention that it's confirmed that Link's father was one of the knights of the Hylian army. For Link and Zelda to be siblings, the Queen would have to be in an affair with the knight. And if Link's mother was the Queen, why in the blue blazes would she be running to the Kokiri Forest to ensure her son's safety? And if for some strange reason she did, why would she take Link and not Zelda too?

QUOTE (MalonsLover @ Oct 4 2008, 07:55 AM)
6) They were both chosen by the other two Triforce pieces.

And Ganondorf was chosen by the Triforce of Power. What's your point?

QUOTE (MalonsLover @ Oct 4 2008, 07:55 AM)
8) The ghosts of the composer brothers tell Link that he reminds them of Princess Zelda.

So what? If my dad reminds me of some famous actor, it doesn't mean their brothers.
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MalonsLover
Posted: Oct 4 2008, 05:40 PM


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Actually the King of Hyrule would have been a Hylian Knight during the great war and its easy to believe that during the chaos from the attack of Hyrule Town that Zelda would have remained with him and Link with his wife trying to flee for safety. Why would Links mom want to endure the liability of carrying both of them around and exposing both of them to possible danger when she can easily entrust her husband, who is a Hylian Knight perfectly capable of at least protecting Zelda?

But yeah..I agree with you that what I posted does not fully prove anything, but there is more than enough hints in OOT within the game and dialogue that if Link and Zelda were twin siblings it would not be that much of a shock.
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gr33n_sl33ves
Posted: Oct 4 2008, 06:03 PM


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Age, race and colouring are circumstantial evidence at best. For example, one of my best friends is caucasian, fair skinned with dark brown hair and eyes, just like me. She's the same age as me, and we both even wear glasses, and we are constantly mistaken for sisters, but we aren't even remotely related.
And remember, in not all of the games did they have matching colouring. In the older games, Link had brown hair while Zelda was a ginger, WW Link had green eyes to Tetra/Zelda's blue, and TP Link was sandy blond while Zelda was light brown.

As for Zelda's mother and Link's father never being mentioned, it could be that the game developers didn't bother to delve into the personal histories of Link and Zelda, what with the player busy trying to save the world and all.

Both of them being "of destiny" probably stems from the fact that they were essentially chosen by the gods to be bearers of the Triforce, chosen for the strength of their hearts, not so much as a blood bond.

The game mentions that the blood of all Hylians is infused with magic, and while the general populace doesn't seem to exhibit any magical tendencies, Link was raised by the Kokiri and the Great Deku Tree, all of whom are more inclined to using their magic.

As for Zelda's Lullaby, if only Royal Family members are allowed to learn it, then how did Impa learn it? Nowhere in the game is it mentioned that Impa is related to Zelda by blood.
I think what she meant was more along the lines that common folk would never learn the song, so if some kid from the woods plays this song at you, then it must mean that he's there at the behest of the Royal Family.

Throughout the game, or any of the Zelda games for that matter, the general populace of Hyrule seem to have no idea that Link is all but single-handedly saving the world. As far as most people see, he's just some kid whose going around and helping with little problems. Only Zelda, and companions like Navi and Midna, ever know what's happening on a grander scale. I think if someone were to save your kingdom, you'd be disinclined to let the tale of their deeds fall to the wayside.

As for Zelda finding Link's name familiar, you could give him ridiculous names like "Poopie" or "FGHJK" and she'd still say they were familiar, because that's the way the dialogue was designed.
But to not bring game mechanics into it, it could just be that she subconsciously recognized the name from her prophetic dreams, if she didn't consciously.
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MalonsLover
Posted: Oct 4 2008, 06:21 PM


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Kudos on your post gr33n. Its interesting how the game gives hints that they might be twin siblings but enough doubt to believe that the coincidental similarities could be based on what you posted. But the whole mystery of Link's actual father and Zelda's actual mother is still of great interest. But maybe its better for the Zelinkers sake that they remain a mystery. Also, my thread is based only on OOT Link and Zelda being possible twin siblings. ALTTP, AOL, TP, and WW are irrelevant in this discussion. Anyway take a look at the uncanny physical similarities of OOT Link and Zelda.

Here is OoT Adult Zelda:

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And here is OoT Adult Link:

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Basically the difference in the noses would make them fraternal twins and not identical. Unless you were going by Love of Zelda's avy and sig in which Link and Zelda actually look like identical clones. laugh.gif
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gr33n_sl33ves
Posted: Oct 4 2008, 06:39 PM


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True, they do look alike, but Zelda is more strawberry blond to Link's golden blond, and if going by your insistence that appearances donate a blood connection, then Zelda and Malon could be sisters, or cousins at least, and they would have blood ties to Ganondorf and Nabooru, possibly the whole Gerudo tribe, who are all red heads. For that matter, Ingo and Talon must be brothers, as they look pretty similar too.
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MalonsLover
Posted: Oct 4 2008, 06:44 PM


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Maybe..but since OOT Link and Zelda have TWIN triforces to go along with their physical similarities...well who really knows. But yeah...Talon and Ingo do look like brothers. laugh.gif
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gr33n_sl33ves
Posted: Oct 4 2008, 06:51 PM


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The thing you seem to be forgetting is that the Triforce comes in three. It's a triplet. And the other piece went to Ganondorf, who I think we can all agree on the fact that he isn't a blood relation of Zelda's. And that being the case, that pretty much says that a blood relation isn't needed to be a bearer of the Triforce, which puts doubt or your sibling theory.
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Love_of_Zelda
Posted: Oct 4 2008, 06:52 PM


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Zelda's mother is shown in the OoT manga - it is a small image, but it clearly shows that Zelda looks to be about three years old. This means that Link and Zelda's mother are obviously not one person, because Link's mother was murdered when Link was a baby. It isn't really possible in that regard that Link and Zelda are twin siblings.

The OoT comic that Nintendo Power released shows Link's father who is a Hylian Knight and is killed in battle. It also shows that Link's father sends his wife away with a newborn-appearing Link.

The King of Hyrule would not have been a Hylian Knight - he might have had the skills of a Hylian Knight (we can't know for sure), but if he was King, he probably would have never been any rank lower than Royal.

I believe that Zelda's Lullaby is not just taught to Royal Family members - obviously Impa has learned it somewhere along the way, and she is in no way related to Zelda. Yet Impa teaches it to Link - I think there is a commonality here, and that is that Zelda's Lullaby is taught only to Zelda's personal protectors, even though they are not related to her. I understand that the game says that the song is taught only to family members, but aren't you basically family when you protect someone's life?
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MalonsLover
Posted: Oct 4 2008, 07:05 PM


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Its pretty much accepted by most Zelda fans/theorists that the King of Hyrule was not a King during the great war. More likely he was involved in the Hyrule military during the war and he could have been at least a high ranking Hyrule Knight. But one thing is for sure, he was not a King at that time. I've never read the OOT Manga or Comics so I don't think it would be appropriate for me to go ITS NOT CANON!!! ARRRGHH!! angry.gif as some people do. Like I said, what I posted has more to do with in game hints that OOT Link and Zelda COULD be twin siblings but there is enough doubt that they are not related as well.

To gr33n
Yes but Ganon looks nothing like Link or Zelda. Link and Zelda on the other hand...(Looks at Love of Zelda's avy and sig)
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Mandy
Posted: Oct 4 2008, 09:35 PM


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Yanno I never bought into the whole siblings theory because most of the so-called evidence is mediocre and doesn't leave enough room for substantial doubt. This is coming from me by playing the games; I never even let it cross my mind that the two would be related! The only time I remotely considered it was in ALttP when Link met with his dying uncle and his last words:

"Link...Zelda is your..." and that's it (roughly). Now fit in the word "sister" and see how you feel about it? Kinda deflates the whole thing, if you ask me. But fit in "destiny" and heeey! You got a mysterious and heavy-meaning sentence there huh? But we will never know what his uncle meant regardless. Too bad ;(

As for the OoT manga, I really cannot accept that either. Considering it completely butchered the story...yeah. No dice with me >.< The idea of Link's mom being who she was is an interesting idea, since we know next to nothing about her in the game, but she could've been anyone.
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MalonsLover
Posted: Oct 4 2008, 09:55 PM


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I just made this thread since the sibling theory does exist, I thought I would just throw caution to the wind in hopes to read other peoples opinion on the issue. I really don't personally support it, but if it was revealed that OOT Link and Zelda were fraternal twins I would not be shocked at all.

In a sense, I kind of like the sibling theory mainly because it overwhelmingly favors LinkxMalon. But I don't see Link ruling Hyrule with Malon as his queen though. More likely in this theoretical scenario, Link would probably relinquish his claim to the throne to his twin sister Zelda in a humble and selfless gesture of love to be with Malon and to live with her at Lon Lon ranch as a humble Hero/Knight/Vassal in protecting the land of Hyrule. Link's relationship with Zelda would be as the Triforce Twins working together to maintain peace and prosperity within and throughout the kingdom of Hyrule, and LinkxMalon live happily ever after YAAAY biggrin.gif

But yeah...there still is more than enough doubt that OOT/MM Link and Zelda are not blood related, but the coincidences in their physical similarities, matching triforces, prophetic dreams, and the vagueness with their parents of the same gender still make me wonder though.
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Mandy
Posted: Oct 4 2008, 10:07 PM


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QUOTE (MalonsLover)
In a sense, I kind of like the sibling theory mainly because it overwhelmingly favors LinkxMalon. But I don't see Link ruling Hyrule with Malon as his queen though. More likely in this theoretical scenario, Link would probably relinquish his claim to the throne to his twin sister Zelda in a humble and selfless gesture of love to be with Malon and to live with her at Lon Lon ranch as a humble Hero/Knight/Vassal in protecting the land of Hyrule.


o.O That's quite an idea there lol. Never considered it that way...but I agree in that I can't really see Link being the kingly type, for the most part. Zelda's better ruling material anyway biggrin.gif

QUOTE (MalonsLover)
Link's relationship with Zelda would be as the Triforce Twins working together to maintain peace and prosperity within and throughout the kingdom of Hyrule, and LinkxMalon live happily ever after YAAAY biggrin.gif


Oh man, I just got a hilarious idea in my head xD Imagine Link and Zelda as some super hero duo in funny outfits! "Triforce Twin Powers, activate!" giggle.gif

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Angel Zelda
Posted: Oct 4 2008, 11:23 PM


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QUOTE (Mandy @ Oct 4 2008, 09:35 PM)
"Link...Zelda is your..." and that's it (roughly). Now fit in the word "sister" and see how you feel about it? Kinda deflates the whole thing, if you ask me. But fit in "destiny" and heeey! You got a mysterious and heavy-meaning sentence there huh? But we will never know what his uncle meant regardless. Too bad ;(

In the Japanese version of ALttP, Link's dying uncle does say, "Zelda is your destiny." I'm not sure why he doesn't finish the sentence in the American version; I heard it was due to a lack of space.
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Mandy
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Lack of space? Lol! Well okay then!

At least one version has all the dialogue ~.~ Better than nothing.
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