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gliderpilotgirl
Posted: Oct 5 2008, 01:46 AM


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QUOTE (Mandy @ Oct 4 2008, 11:50 PM)
I guess this where we differ significantly in that, at the end of the day...it's just a game. Just a bunch of pixels. And to hear that you find some level of emotional pain...
giggle.gif About Link potentially picking Malon at Zelda's expense! Well...there's not much to argue about over that.

I think you've answered your own questions when it comes to having another section for discussion here for other pairings. You obviously cannot stand it, considering how attached you are to the idea of two fictional characters being together only in a certain way, no ifs ands or buts about it wink.gif

I know it's just a game. Whatever happens in it doesn't affect anything in our lives. But I still take it seriously: the very best stories draw us in and make us care about the characters. Empathizing with them is something a creator would strive for. ( Like in movies )

If I "couldn't stand the idea" I wouldn't have suggested the idea in the first place. What I'd like is to be able to discuss Link and Zelda's wedding without having to hear about Link and Malon's potential bliss instead. It doesn't belong there.

( Note: you advocate respect yet you are showing me none with your attitude: you are pretty much flat out laughing in my face because I am touched by the emotion in game. Thanks alot. )
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Mandy
Posted: Oct 5 2008, 02:54 AM


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QUOTE (gliderpilotgirl)
If I "couldn't stand the idea" I wouldn't have suggested the idea in the first place. What I'd like is to be able to discuss Link and Zelda's wedding without having to hear about Link and Malon's potential bliss instead. It doesn't belong there.


Out of the goodness of your heart? Lol...there are a total of 3 (including me) active Malink people here. What's the point in making a Malink section on a Zelink forum? Like it was said before, people shouldn't come here to discuss Malink yes? So why advocate that any further?

QUOTE (gliderpilotgirl)
( Note: you advocate respect yet you are showing me none with your attitude: you are pretty much flat out laughing in my face because I am touched by the emotion in game. Thanks alot. )


Perhaps it's because you're too attached? You may say it's just a game but your posts say otherwise. That's my impression, and please...cut your attitude too. You're narrow minded enough as it is to say that Malink content here is actively playing into Zelda's heartbreak which isn't real. Get over it plz?
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Saphine
Posted: Oct 5 2008, 05:16 AM


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I'll be joining in on this topic, if you guys don't mind, because I think I can share my take on this situation from a third party perspective.

There is nothing wrong with people having their own opinions. Like with anything, however, when you take a position on one thing, there is an opposing position for that same thing, and it's natural that disagreements should arise when there are different opinions. So, while it's okay to like or dislike what you will, you should also be prepared to accept that others may not agree with you, too.

I can understand Gliderpilotgirl's position as a supporter of a specific pairing (Zelink, to be more exact). People grow certain attachments to what they enjoy, and sometimes it can even become personal. I can even understand feeling threatened by something that (for lack of better words) gets in the way of what you like, and I don't think there is anything wrong with feeling upset when that happens.

But all the same, I also agree with Mandy and Saami.

It's fine to support whatever pairing you choose to, but it would be a good thing to understand (and accept) that there are other pairings out there, whether you like them or not. It's not necessary for you to support these other pairings, but the way you deal with them makes all difference.

Like Saami stated, I think there's an issue with how some people respond to other pairings. I personally don't mind if someone hates something I like if they have their own personal reasons for it, but it's ridiculous if it gets to the point a person starts flaming and bashing a character (or the fandom of a certain shipping). In other words, people need to learn how better to express themselves.

That said -- why should it matter that other pairings exist? This is a Zelda x Link forum, and yes, this place is namely a place for Zelink discussion.

Well, because this forum is still a Legend of Zelda forum, it will eventually draw other people, and thus, people of different shippings. In fact, other shippers may also be interested to join a forum that opposes their own personal choice of pairing for a good discussion... like Mandy had said earlier.

If you don't mind that there are different shippers on your board, making a thread for "Everything Else" (like you had suggested) may help move traffic of anything non-Zelink related there. But that won't stop the other shippers from still joining in on Zelink conversations unless you specify otherwise (that non-zelink discussion is not allowed, or whatever). So yeah, if you can't tolerate it, for best measure, you should clarify things by being technical, even if something should be common sense (like, the fact that this IS a Zelink forum).

One way or another, you need to change something. If you really hate a shipping, or a fandom of that shipping, so much that you need a place to flame and bash them, then it's better to just exclude those other people right from the get-go. That way you can avoid arguments and you can enjoy chatter only with like minded people. It'll probably make you look bad to other fandoms, yes, but if it'll put your mind at ease, then maybe it's something to consider.

I'm not trying to offend you, and if I have, I'm really sorry. D: What I'm trying to say, though, is that it seems to me that you don't like non-zelink related matters on your zelink-forum, and in that case, something needs to change, because in the end, this is a public forum, and anything can happen in a public forum. If you don't like the opposition, maybe you should avoid it completely? That's just a suggestion, though.

I hope what I said made sense. Forgive me if it didn't -- I haven't exactly been active on forums in a very long time :P
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MalonsLover
Posted: Oct 5 2008, 06:40 AM


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GILDERPILOT SAID:
I would actually take a certain amount of emotional pain out of the prospect of Link choosing another over Zelda.

A forum that advocates Malon is also indirectly advocating heartbreak for Zelda


Look at it this way. If it was ever revealed that the twin sibling theory was true, more than likely Zelda would be very happy and supportive that her theoretical twin brother (Link) had found true love with Malon. tongue.gif

OK...I'm obviously teasing. Seriously though, I actually feel bad that my THEORIES may contribute to your emotional pain. If it makes you feel any better, I actually like reading your theories supporting LinkxZelda. Provided that they are not blood related of course. wink.gif
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Hylian Princess
Posted: Oct 5 2008, 04:35 PM


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QUOTE (MalonsLover @ Oct 5 2008, 06:40 AM)
Look at it this way. If it was ever revealed that the twin sibling theory was true, more than likely Zelda would be very happy and supportive that her theoretical twin brother (Link) had found true love with Malon. tongue.gif

Or Midna or Illia!

But, or course Zelda will HAVE to cope with the women that he may pick, including herself. But, then they won't be able to be together, will they? Otherwise, their babies will turn... well, bad. They need an heir to the throne, and I don't think Hyrule will have a defected king or queen as their ruler.

Therefore, if your twin sibling theory is correct (no offense, but may god forbid), Zelda could never be with Link, unless they... I think I won't ge into all the scenarios and possibilities for this one...
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gliderpilotgirl
Posted: Oct 5 2008, 04:58 PM


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QUOTE (Mandy @ Oct 5 2008, 02:54 AM)
QUOTE (gliderpilotgirl)
If I "couldn't stand the idea" I wouldn't have suggested the idea in the first place. What I'd like is to be able to discuss Link and Zelda's wedding without having to hear about Link and Malon's potential bliss instead. It doesn't belong there.


Out of the goodness of your heart? Lol...there are a total of 3 (including me) active Malink people here. What's the point in making a Malink section on a Zelink forum? Like it was said before, people shouldn't come here to discuss Malink yes? So why advocate that any further?

QUOTE (gliderpilotgirl)
( Note: you advocate respect yet you are showing me none with your attitude: you are pretty much flat out laughing in my face because I am touched by the emotion in game. Thanks alot. )


Perhaps it's because you're too attached? You may say it's just a game but your posts say otherwise. That's my impression, and please...cut your attitude too. You're narrow minded enough as it is to say that Malink content here is actively playing into Zelda's heartbreak which isn't real. Get over it plz?

I think we could solve this whole problem with some mutual respect. If people HAD the respect to either make a new topic for something like a Malink wedding as well as not attacking us personally ( both you and Malonslover have now done it ) we wouldn't have a problem. I wouldn't have made this topic!

Attitude? Because I have a strong opinion and I stand by it? I'm not going to feel bad for having feelings about something I enjoy. Or for excluding other opinions as I see fit: it's my perrogative. Making fun of me for it won't change that. Anyways, I'm done with you.
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MalonsLover
Posted: Oct 5 2008, 05:13 PM


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You should enjoy the possibility of the Hero & Princess having a magically enchanted fairy tale romance living in the Castle. I know I enjoy my vision of Link being a Knight/Vassal in which I see Link being alerted at Lon Lon ranch on a problematic danger at a nearby village. He quickly dons his Hero tunic, readies Epona for battle, and then there would be an emotional dramatic moment of a teary eyed Malon wishing for her husbands safe return. Link will stand close to her all silent and brave, comforting his wife like a good husband/provider would and should before he gallantly rides off for battle. Then Link gives Malon a nod of reassurance and quietly tells her that he promises to return to her safely. Then he mounts on Epona nearby and off he goes to heroically and courageously battle the danger. cool.gif
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Mandy
Posted: Oct 5 2008, 05:43 PM


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QUOTE
gliderpilotgirl]If people HAD the respect to either make a new topic for something like a Malink wedding as well as not attacking us personally ( both you and Malonslover have now done it ) we wouldn't have a problem. I wouldn't have made this topic!


Had it ever occurred to you that perhaps the members who posted that felt like if they did make a topic in that it would be locked? Cause you know, Zelink forum and all that. I mean, considering the attitude here it wouldn't surprise me. Perhaps MalonsLover felt that making a whole topic for that, and with so little Malinkers here, it would've been pointless. So either they shut up about it or partake in the conversation in an already established thread. I'm assuming here but from how I see it makes sense.

QUOTE (gliderpilotgirl)
Attitude? Because I have a strong opinion and I stand by it? I'm not going to feel bad for having feelings about something I enjoy. Or for excluding other opinions as I see fit: it's my perrogative. Making fun of me for it won't change that. Anyways, I'm done with you.


Replace opinion with unhealthy fantasy and bigotry and we got it right giggle.gif Sorry, couldn't help myself! Perhaps if you'd stop trying to defend yourself you'd stop looking like some addled fan girl?
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gliderpilotgirl
Posted: Oct 5 2008, 06:14 PM


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QUOTE (Mandy @ Oct 5 2008, 05:43 PM)
Had it ever occurred to you that perhaps the members who posted that felt like if they did make a topic in that it would be locked? Cause you know, Zelink forum and all that. I mean, considering the attitude here it wouldn't surprise me. Perhaps MalonsLover felt that making a whole topic for that, and with so little Malinkers here, it would've been pointless. So either they shut up about it or partake in the conversation in an already established thread. I'm assuming here but from how I see it makes sense.

QUOTE (gliderpilotgirl)
Attitude? Because I have a strong opinion and I stand by it? I'm not going to feel bad for having feelings about something I enjoy. Or for excluding other opinions as I see fit: it's my perrogative. Making fun of me for it won't change that. Anyways, I'm done with you.


Replace opinion with unhealthy fantasy and bigotry and we got it right giggle.gif Sorry, couldn't help myself! Perhaps if you'd stop trying to defend yourself you'd stop looking like some addled fan girl?

There's topics about Ilia, Marin, etc. Saami posts Malink fan fiction in that section. I find that a poor excuse to hijack a thread.

Bigotry? Because I won't give Malon a chance? Yeah, um no. And frankly, I don't care if you are calling me a fangirl. You are kind of in the wrong place to be heaping condemnation for that. But enough.
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Mandy
Posted: Oct 5 2008, 06:51 PM


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If it was enough you wouldn't be replying tongue.gif Am I just that tempting to talk to! I think so..

QUOTE (gliderpilotgirl)
There's topics about Ilia, Marin, etc. Saami posts Malink fan fiction in that section. I find that a poor excuse to hijack a thread.


Fair nuff. I'm kinda new to the place so I haven't looked at every thread on here yet to see such topics.

And yes, you are bigoted. You know what being bigoted means, yes? Let's go to dictionary.com!

Bigotry –noun, plural -ries.
1. stubborn and complete intolerance of any creed, belief, or opinion that differs from one's own.


You said so yourself you wouldn't "give Malon a chance" didn't you? I say you fit into this description, even if the word is quite potent. But the facts are facts. You're so into Zelink shipping you can't see otherwise and you refuse to. Fine. But denying that? Yeah, right.
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gliderpilotgirl
Posted: Oct 5 2008, 07:07 PM


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QUOTE (Mandy @ Oct 5 2008, 06:51 PM)
If it was enough you wouldn't be replying tongue.gif Am I just that tempting to talk to! I think so..

QUOTE (gliderpilotgirl)
There's topics about Ilia, Marin, etc. Saami posts Malink fan fiction in that section. I find that a poor excuse to hijack a thread.


Fair nuff. I'm kinda new to the place so I haven't looked at every thread on here yet to see such topics.

And yes, you are bigoted. You know what being bigoted means, yes? Let's go to dictionary.com!

Bigotry –noun, plural -ries.
1. stubborn and complete intolerance of any creed, belief, or opinion that differs from one's own.


You said so yourself you wouldn't "give Malon a chance" didn't you? I say you fit into this description, even if the word is quite potent. But the facts are facts. You're so into Zelink shipping you can't see otherwise and you refuse to. Fine. But denying that? Yeah, right.

You are rude enough that you raise my ire. Hence the talking.

While I could care less what you think of me, here's something to chew on. Perhaps I have considered your POV, but ultimately discarded it? That would be closer to the truth. A good and solid shipper in my eyes will take their opponent's case apart and see if it poses a threat to their own. I've had my time doing that, I just grow tired of it.

But that's not the point of this topic. Again, respect. For those of us that want a safe non-combative place to talk about aspects of our fav ship, would it be too much to ask to keep the fighting somewhere else? Even to the Malon thread for instance.
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Mandy
Posted: Oct 5 2008, 07:26 PM


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It's intriguing isn't it? How someone over the internet can raise your ire over a Zelda forum.

I have considered your POV, but ultimately discarded it? That would be closer to the truth. A good and solid shipper in my eyes will take their opponent's case apart and see if it poses a threat to their own.

Tell me about it. I could say the same, except it was for Zelink. As for tearing apart an opponents case, as if it were a threat? Lol, since when does a shipping pose a threat? We are at war all of a sudden? Sorry but I've got bigger fish to fry than think that a debate on pairings online correlates to figuring out how a certain argument is a threat to what I believe in. It's only a threat to you and whatever other exclusive Zelinkers out there. If your pairing is so awesome and true, then what threat could possibly worth agonizing over? If you ask me this idea of a threat is contrived.

But that's not the point of this topic. Again, respect. For those of us that want a safe non-combative place to talk about aspects of our fav ship, would it be too much to ask to keep the fighting somewhere else? Even to the Malon thread for instance.

And why would the Malon thread by any better? You asked if people wanted a separate section for Malink talk and while I admit our little back-and-forth posts are rather off topic this thread can serve that purpose. I already said no to a Malink section earlier and said my reasoning as to why not. Why not make a poll? I'm sure the people who care will vote.
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gliderpilotgirl
Posted: Oct 5 2008, 07:38 PM


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QUOTE (Mandy @ Oct 5 2008, 07:26 PM)
But that's not the point of this topic. Again, respect. For those of us that want a safe non-combative place to talk about aspects of our fav ship, would it be too much to ask to keep the fighting somewhere else? Even to the Malon thread for instance.

And why would the Malon thread by any better? You asked if people wanted a separate section for Malink talk and while I admit our little back-and-forth posts are rather off topic this thread can serve that purpose. I already said no to a Malink section earlier and said my reasoning as to why not. Why not make a poll? I'm sure the people who care will vote.

Why would the Malon thread be better? Because that's where Malon debating has took place traditionally. A person who's not interested can avoid the topic, and keep on enjoying the forum. It seems pretty simple to me.
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Mandy
Posted: Oct 5 2008, 07:47 PM


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Well then close this topic and this is carried over to there? Lol...if that would please everyone then.

I still say a poll should be put into place, though.
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Existence: DENIED
Posted: Oct 5 2008, 09:09 PM


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Aw, come on guys and gals.

Although all of you raise very good points about this issue, I'll make this clear once and for all.

This is a Zelink forum. Although the rules do say that it's okay to talk about other pairings, the core and very point of this forum is to gather all types of Zelda fans, Malinkers included. Although, despite that being said, we are not going to make a seperate forum for each pairing that is brought up between the interests of our members. This would contradict the names of our forums, correct?

Also, enough with this hibbity bibbity about "Unhealthy obessions" about discussing Zelink. This is obiviously a pairing forum, dedicating to Zelink. Of course, there will be members ranging from soft spots to a passionate liking to the pairing. Nonetheless, whether it is a soft spot or a passionate liking, it all comes down to discussing about a video game pairing, whether it's ZeLink, MaLink, Clerith, Cloti etc. If that's not enough to say it's an "unhealthy obsession" until actually getting into heated debates, then the line between interest and obession must be very, very thin.

It's okay to like Malink in our forums, and it's okay to debate about the canonity (if that is a word) of it once in a while, but when it comes to personal attacks and seperation of discussion, this is where it comes a bit out of hand.

*closed*
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