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 Windwaker Link and Zelda
gliderpilotgirl
Posted: Jul 29 2008, 10:16 PM


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QUOTE (Saami @ Jul 27 2008, 11:48 PM)
QUOTE (zelda-in-disguise @ Jul 27 2008, 05:52 PM)
There's so much proof in tWW for ZeLink, yet some people think it should be Medlixlink

I am in fact one of those people. Dunno why. Just by the end of the game, I was more enamored to Link x Medli than I was to Link x Tetra (though this ship is a close second on my list of favorite WW ships)

Aside from what people said, I didn't see much in way of romance for Link and Tetra. They're both kids. Don't really think much would come of their relationship other than friendship now. But as they got older and settled into creating a new Hyrule, something could come of it.

Romance is often in the eye of the beholder. IMO, it was subtle, yet very strong..kind of a theme. I love Medli a great deal, but I didn't feel the "force of the game" behind her in a romantic manner, not when compared up against Tetra.

Another thing to talk about in WW: The game definately had some "themes" as I'd call it. Destiny being a huge one. I loved what that said for ZeLink though. We have the most different from the normal Zelda world possible, Link being some random island boy and Zelda an actual pirate. But it doesn't matter...they are still destined to fight together and IMO, to fall in love. ( I thought it was obvious )

I also liked that they threw the "Link must be related to the previous Hero" out the window though there is still debate on that one. ( Hero's family shield and all )
I'd take the KoRL's word over that though. It also fits in the "chosen" aspect that TP continued.
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Saami
Posted: Jul 30 2008, 06:28 PM


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It wasn't. Not to me. Link is some random island boy. And Zelda is a pirate. And they're both getting their first tastes of real adventure. From the lighthearted nature of the game, I easily concluded that heavy romance (outside of a playful crush perhaps) was placed on the back burner, as opposed to Link meeting Zelda and BAM insta-love.

Most of my assumptions are based on their interactions with each other. Not what really on what people said. Nothing even remotely suggested to me that Link was interested in Tetra (and Medli) as nothing more than a friend who he is helping out during his adventure.

I do agree that destiny played a huge role in bringing Link and Zelda together (as it is apt to do). But I also believe that it is largely up to Link and Zelda, whether or not they fall in love, not destiny. And simply put, romance is the last thing on the mind of an eleven year old boy.
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gliderpilotgirl
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QUOTE (Saami @ Jul 30 2008, 06:28 PM)
It wasn't. Not to me. Link is some random island boy. And Zelda is a pirate. And they're both getting their first tastes of real adventure. From the lighthearted nature of the game, I easily concluded that heavy romance (outside of a playful crush perhaps) was placed on the back burner, as opposed to Link meeting Zelda and BAM insta-love.

Most of my assumptions are based on their interactions with each other. Not what really on what people said. Nothing even remotely suggested to me that Link was interested in Tetra (and Medli) as nothing more than a friend who he is helping out during his adventure.

I do agree that destiny played a huge role in bringing Link and Zelda together (as it is apt to do). But I also believe that it is largely up to Link and Zelda, whether or not they fall in love, not destiny. And simply put, romance is the last thing on the mind of an eleven year old boy.

I'm not advocating heavy romance, merely puppy-love on Link's part, and admiration from Tetra/Zelda for his heroics. It's a start: I wouldn't expect them to have the relationship for instance that 17 year old TP Link clearly was starting with Ilia.

It depends on how you interpret their behavior. I see for instance Tetra's playfulness and almost tenderness towards Link as budding attraction. On Link's part there's how he brushes off Tetra's apology when she says she is sorry for what happened to him. She's been a jerk! He's rather sweet-spirited to begin with, but you can also take that as unconditional love. ( or like ) I will confess I'm drawing most of my evidence for Link returning Tetra's affections from PH as well: warn me now, who's going to be offended by spoilers?

I suppose. But they are destined to become at least close as they work together...that works well to lead into more. Romance and 11/12 year olds being incompatible? Nope. Not true at all. Rather, that's the age when feelings can start to surface. I have personal experience: my best friend for years suddenly started seeing hearts my direction when he was 12. I was of course too dense to see it, but my mom and his mom sure noticed. I've been around 10 year olds and heard them talk about "dating". They aren't thinking the mature love that an adult feels but attraction is very normal.
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zelda-in-disguise
Posted: Jul 30 2008, 07:25 PM


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So true about the ten-year olds thing. It's okay that they "date" with a person they like, but in my third elementary school, every fifth grader was dating a new person every week. Why so early? Wait on that until you're older. Feelings at that age are great, but dating different people, even people you hate, every few days? Well, this isn't the place for that. Anyway, lots of affectionate feelings bloom around that age (although it hasn't happened to me so I only have proof from everyone around me).
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gliderpilotgirl
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QUOTE (zelda-in-disguise @ Jul 30 2008, 07:25 PM)
So true about the ten-year olds thing. It's okay that they "date" with a person they like, but in my third elementary school, every fifth grader was dating a new person every week. Why so early? Wait on that until you're older. Feelings at that age are great, but dating different people, even people you hate, every few days? Well, this isn't the place for that. Anyway, lots of affectionate feelings bloom around that age (although it hasn't happened to me so I only have proof from everyone around me).

Well, yeah...in that case they are dating for the sake "of status". It's a popularity thing vs actual feelings. I agree crushes can switch every couple of weeks too..there's nothing serious at that age. However, puppy love can be real cute, as in the case of WW Link. I've never had any doubt that when they grew up that it would turn to real love though...like what I saw develop between OoT Link and Zelda. They're sharing a great adventure, best friends...it's a classic set up.
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zelda-in-disguise
Posted: Jul 30 2008, 09:18 PM


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Yep. Total classic set-up. smile.gif I don't doubt that it'll grow into real love either. zelinksmileytgther.gif forever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Hylian Princess
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QUOTE (gliderpilotgirl @ Oct 23 2007, 12:46 AM)
The only conceivable competition I saw in WW was Medli...even with the whole falling into his arms, but Link didn't seem to return it all. The Fairy Queen hit on him..and he looked sheepish, only to be given a "in your dreams" look by the King of Red Lions.

I love how Tetra seems elusive and tough..yet you know she's got a tender side that Link can bring out, and nobody sees it but him. He is such a sweetheart in WW too..despite her taunting and such at the beginning..he still fell for her and went charging to her side when she was taken. I loved they let her actually fight beside him too..and how she caught him when he fell. When they departed..you totally knew he would stay beside her forever..not take off like OoT Link did. ( Though I think he came back)

These two are pushing for my fav ZeLink pairing, tied with the OoT/MM pair.

I don't think Medli is even competition! She's so in the sidelines! And link is really adorable in WW (though he is almost all the time), especially when he smacks his face on walls. I laugh my head off all the time when I see it!!! Hehehehe... hahahaha.... lol

But, they do look like they're ten year olds, so it's just maybe puppy love for them , but there's bound to be more later. In PH maybe???

And yeah, Tetra is very much like a tough gangster girl, hanging around with pirates who are either extra small and old, or big and gorilla-like. And yet, she is princess Zelda as well, making her everything a princess is, besides prissy, because Zelda ain' prissy at all, except in the cartoons.

GO WW! It does deserve more discussion.

PS: You know in WW??? At some parts, Zelda's hair looked green! Maybe it was just my eyes... blink.gif unsure.gif
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zelda-in-disguise
Posted: Aug 5 2008, 11:53 PM


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QUOTE (Hylian Princess @ Aug 5 2008, 11:19 PM)

I don't think Medli is even competition! She's so in the sidelines! And link is really adorable in WW (though he is almost all the time), especially when he smacks his face on walls. I laugh my head off all the time when I see it!!! Hehehehe... hahahaha.... lol

But, they do look like they're ten year olds, so it's just maybe puppy love for them , but there's bound to be more later. In PH maybe???

And yeah, Tetra is very much like a tough gangster girl, hanging around with pirates who are either extra small and old, or big and gorilla-like. And yet, she is princess Zelda as well, making her everything a princess is, besides prissy, because Zelda ain' prissy at all, except in the cartoons.

GO WW! It does deserve more discussion.

PS: You know in WW??? At some parts, Zelda's hair looked green! Maybe it was just my eyes... blink.gif unsure.gif

Totally agree with you on the Medli part and the part about Link smacking into the walls. ^^ I laughed so hard and then I just wanted to hug him and make the pain go away. i'm telling you, it hurts when you smack into a wall...really bad... spoiler in PH there is more and the entire adventure started out as saving Tetra. Then later they said that you had to defeat the ghostship and then you had to defeat Bellum so that Tetra can be brought back to life before it's too late(she turned to stone) and to save the people from getting their life force sucked out. end spoiler Tetra's nice at times, she has a soft spot for Link and apologizes to him for all that's happened. About the hair...it does have a green-ish tint to it. Not TOTALLY green, but it's so blond that at times it looks like it's tinted with bright yellow-green.
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Hylian Princess
Posted: Aug 6 2008, 12:58 PM


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QUOTE (zelda-in-disguise @ Aug 5 2008, 11:53 PM)
QUOTE (Hylian Princess @ Aug 5 2008, 11:19 PM)

I don't think Medli is even competition! She's so in the sidelines! And link is really adorable in WW (though he is almost all the time), especially when he smacks his face on walls. I laugh my head off all the time when I see it!!! Hehehehe... hahahaha.... lol

But, they do look like they're ten year olds, so it's just maybe puppy love for them , but there's bound to be more later. In PH maybe???

And yeah, Tetra is very much like a tough gangster girl, hanging around with pirates who are either extra small and old, or big and gorilla-like. And yet, she is princess Zelda as well, making her everything a princess is, besides prissy, because Zelda ain' prissy at all, except in the cartoons.

GO WW! It does deserve more discussion.

PS: You know in WW??? At some parts, Zelda's hair looked green! Maybe it was just my eyes... blink.gif  unsure.gif

Totally agree with you on the Medli part and the part about Link smacking into the walls. ^^ I laughed so hard and then I just wanted to hug him and make the pain go away. i'm telling you, it hurts when you smack into a wall...really bad... spoiler in PH there is more and the entire adventure started out as saving Tetra. Then later they said that you had to defeat the ghostship and then you had to defeat Bellum so that Tetra can be brought back to life before it's too late(she turned to stone) and to save the people from getting their life force sucked out. end spoiler Tetra's nice at times, she has a soft spot for Link and apologizes to him for all that's happened. About the hair...it does have a green-ish tint to it. Not TOTALLY green, but it's so blond that at times it looks like it's tinted with bright yellow-green.

Yeah, I think I prefer Zelda with either dirty blonde hair or light brown hair like in TP. She looks really pretty in TP. w00t.gif
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Saami
Posted: Aug 7 2008, 12:14 AM


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QUOTE (Hylian Princess @ Aug 5 2008, 06:19 PM)
QUOTE (gliderpilotgirl @ Oct 23 2007, 12:46 AM)
The only conceivable competition I saw in WW was Medli...even with the whole falling into his arms, but Link didn't seem to return it all. The Fairy Queen hit on him..and he looked sheepish, only to be given a "in your dreams" look by the King of Red Lions.

I love how Tetra seems elusive and tough..yet you know she's got a tender side that Link can bring out, and nobody sees it but him. He is such a sweetheart in WW too..despite her taunting and such at the beginning..he still fell for her and went charging to her side when she was taken. I loved they let her actually fight beside him too..and how she caught him when he fell. When they departed..you totally knew he would stay beside her forever..not take off like OoT Link did. ( Though I think he came back)

These two are pushing for my fav ZeLink pairing, tied with the OoT/MM pair.

I don't think Medli is even competition! She's so in the sidelines! And link is really adorable in WW (though he is almost all the time), especially when he smacks his face on walls. I laugh my head off all the time when I see it!!! Hehehehe... hahahaha.... lol

But, they do look like they're ten year olds, so it's just maybe puppy love for them , but there's bound to be more later. In PH maybe???

And yeah, Tetra is very much like a tough gangster girl, hanging around with pirates who are either extra small and old, or big and gorilla-like. And yet, she is princess Zelda as well, making her everything a princess is, besides prissy, because Zelda ain' prissy at all, except in the cartoons.

GO WW! It does deserve more discussion.

PS: You know in WW??? At some parts, Zelda's hair looked green! Maybe it was just my eyes... blink.gif unsure.gif

I never made Medli out to be viable competition for Link's affections. I simply stated that when it came down to it, I preferred Link/Medli over Link/Tetra (Zelda).

I'm still not entirely convinced that romance was even on Link (or Tetra's) minds while they were out adventuring. As a matter of fact, I'm fairly certain that when he's fighting off Dark Nuts and Mighty Dark Nuts (or other various enemies), I think the last thing Link's thinking about is what Zelda's doing.
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zelda-in-disguise
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QUOTE (Saami @ Aug 7 2008, 12:14 AM)


I'm still not entirely convinced that romance was even on Link (or Tetra's) minds while they were out adventuring. As a matter of fact, I'm fairly certain that when he's fighting off Dark Nuts and Mighty Dark Nuts (or other various enemies), I think the last thing Link's thinking about is what Zelda's doing.

Well, of course it would be the last thing on his mind. He's going to die unless he concentrates. Anyway, it's probably affection/a crush. It'll probably bloom into something more as they get older.
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Hylian Princess
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QUOTE (zelda-in-disguise @ Aug 7 2008, 02:04 AM)
QUOTE (Saami @ Aug 7 2008, 12:14 AM)


I'm still not entirely convinced that romance was even on Link (or Tetra's) minds while they were out adventuring. As a matter of fact, I'm fairly certain that when he's fighting off Dark Nuts and Mighty Dark Nuts (or other various enemies), I think the last thing Link's thinking about is what Zelda's doing.

Well, of course it would be the last thing on his mind. He's going to die unless he concentrates. Anyway, it's probably affection/a crush. It'll probably bloom into something more as they get older.

Yeah, I think that they're a bit too young for romance and all that jazz. Anyway, I actually agree with liking Medli/Link over Tetra/Link, Saami. This might not make much sense, but I really son't like Tetra. She's kinda uncool.
And the Zelda in WW, is kinda dumbstruck all the time. I know that she never knew that she was Zelda and all, but come on! Just embrace reality and quit looking lost!!!
Anyway, in WW, I didn't find any romance between ANYBODY and Link, but I could change my mind any day now.


Oh yeah. I also believe that in PH or in WW, Zelda was the last thing on his mind. Usually, Link is facing bosses up to three times his tiny size!!! Usually, he's half-dead!
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zelda-in-disguise
Posted: Aug 7 2008, 03:08 PM


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QUOTE (Hylian Princess @ Aug 7 2008, 12:36 PM)
QUOTE (zelda-in-disguise @ Aug 7 2008, 02:04 AM)
QUOTE (Saami @ Aug 7 2008, 12:14 AM)


I'm still not entirely convinced that romance was even on Link (or Tetra's) minds while they were out adventuring. As a matter of fact, I'm fairly certain that when he's fighting off Dark Nuts and Mighty Dark Nuts (or other various enemies), I think the last thing Link's thinking about is what Zelda's doing.

Well, of course it would be the last thing on his mind. He's going to die unless he concentrates. Anyway, it's probably affection/a crush. It'll probably bloom into something more as they get older.

Yeah, I think that they're a bit too young for romance and all that jazz. Anyway, I actually agree with liking Medli/Link over Tetra/Link, Saami. This might not make much sense, but I really son't like Tetra. She's kinda uncool.
And the Zelda in WW, is kinda dumbstruck all the time. I know that she never knew that she was Zelda and all, but come on! Just embrace reality and quit looking lost!!!
Anyway, in WW, I didn't find any romance between ANYBODY and Link, but I could change my mind any day now.


Oh yeah. I also believe that in PH or in WW, Zelda was the last thing on his mind. Usually, Link is facing bosses up to three times his tiny size!!! Usually, he's half-dead!

Well, you'd be dumbstruck too if you suddenly were told you were let's say the banished pirate from the third universe or something. Then all of a sudden, everything changes. one moment you know that you are an average person leading a life you shape, and the next you get told that you are the banished pirate from the third universe with proof that you ARE the banished etc. Sort of bewildering. Also, in the battle with Ganondorf, Zelda isn't bewildered at all, I think she accepted who she is during the time Link is awakening the sages and finding the triforce. In PH, Link actually started the whole adventure for Tetra. He was thinking about her ,and how to save her, a lot. spoiler>Then Oshus tells you that you have to vanquish the Ghost ship to save Tetra. Later, he says the whole thing about Bellum. <end spoiler. He's going through all the adventure for tetra and later for Oshus. Here's proof that Tetra likes link and vice versa: "By the way Mr.customer, are you perhaps aquainted with that adorable little pirate girl? You have a bashful look on your face Mr. customer. You can't hide it from me! Yuk yuk yuk yuk yuk yuk!" -Beedle the shop ship owner, tWW. "Come save your precious Zelda." -Ganondorf, when he takes tetra/zelda to the top of the tower, tWW "You're a talented little kid...I like you." Salvatore as Tetra (he knows...). whenever a person in the game (Beedle, a teacher, a random person) says something about a relationship, you have to pay close attention to it. "I don't know how to say this...All that's happened to you and your poor sister. It's all beem my fault. I'm so sorry. *Link smiles and gives a short laugh of forgiveness* Link...Be careful...*Zelda holds her hands over her heart* The Tetra that shows is only her tough side. It protects her. She'll probably feel like people will think she is weak if she doesn't act tough. She's Zelda inside and deeply cares for her friends. it's like sheik. Tough on the outside, soft on the inside. Just another side of Zelda. I still feel that Link and Zelda/Tetra should be together.
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QUOTE (zelda-in-disguise @ Aug 7 2008, 03:08 PM)
QUOTE (Hylian Princess @ Aug 7 2008, 12:36 PM)
QUOTE (zelda-in-disguise @ Aug 7 2008, 02:04 AM)
QUOTE (Saami @ Aug 7 2008, 12:14 AM)


I'm still not entirely convinced that romance was even on Link (or Tetra's) minds while they were out adventuring. As a matter of fact, I'm fairly certain that when he's fighting off Dark Nuts and Mighty Dark Nuts (or other various enemies), I think the last thing Link's thinking about is what Zelda's doing.

Well, of course it would be the last thing on his mind. He's going to die unless he concentrates. Anyway, it's probably affection/a crush. It'll probably bloom into something more as they get older.

Yeah, I think that they're a bit too young for romance and all that jazz. Anyway, I actually agree with liking Medli/Link over Tetra/Link, Saami. This might not make much sense, but I really son't like Tetra. She's kinda uncool.
And the Zelda in WW, is kinda dumbstruck all the time. I know that she never knew that she was Zelda and all, but come on! Just embrace reality and quit looking lost!!!
Anyway, in WW, I didn't find any romance between ANYBODY and Link, but I could change my mind any day now.


Oh yeah. I also believe that in PH or in WW, Zelda was the last thing on his mind. Usually, Link is facing bosses up to three times his tiny size!!! Usually, he's half-dead!

Well, you'd be dumbstruck too if you suddenly were told you were let's say the banished pirate from the third universe or something. Then all of a sudden, everything changes. one moment you know that you are an average person leading a life you shape, and the next you get told that you are the banished pirate from the third universe with proof that you ARE the banished etc. Sort of bewildering. Also, in the battle with Ganondorf, Zelda isn't bewildered at all, I think she accepted who she is during the time Link is awakening the sages and finding the triforce. In PH, Link actually started the whole adventure for Tetra. He was thinking about her ,and how to save her, a lot. spoiler>Then Oshus tells you that you have to vanquish the Ghost ship to save Tetra. Later, he says the whole thing about Bellum. <end spoiler. He's going through all the adventure for tetra and later for Oshus. Here's proof that Tetra likes link and vice versa: "By the way Mr.customer, are you perhaps aquainted with that adorable little pirate girl? You have a bashful look on your face Mr. customer. You can't hide it from me! Yuk yuk yuk yuk yuk yuk!" -Beedle the shop ship owner, tWW. "Come save your precious Zelda." -Ganondorf, when he takes tetra/zelda to the top of the tower, tWW "You're a talented little kid...I like you." Salvatore as Tetra (he knows...). whenever a person in the game (Beedle, a teacher, a random person) says something about a relationship, you have to pay close attention to it. "I don't know how to say this...All that's happened to you and your poor sister. It's all beem my fault. I'm so sorry. *Link smiles and gives a short laugh of forgiveness* Link...Be careful...*Zelda holds her hands over her heart* The Tetra that shows is only her tough side. It protects her. She'll probably feel like people will think she is weak if she doesn't act tough. She's Zelda inside and deeply cares for her friends. it's like sheik. Tough on the outside, soft on the inside. Just another side of Zelda. I still feel that Link and Zelda/Tetra should be together.

Woww... I never heard of all that!!! I suppose they got older in PH, so it makes more sense. Settled then! I've changed my mind!!! Even though it's just a bunch of teasing, it's cute!

Thanks!
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Yep. The wonders of analyzing and paying attention. biggrin.gif Your welcome.
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