The Fairest Of Them All

Probably, and he didn't know the outskirts of Ordona Province very well, so he couldn't go look for a girlfriend or anything like that. Poor guy, but lucky he went to save the world.

Maybe that's a good part of the reason Ilia was so insecure about him leaving in the beginning. He'd never seen other girls before and she may have been afraid he'd meet someone else. ( I doubt she was actually afraid of Zelda taking him, but Rusl had mentioned meeting her to Link, as if it was a good thing. )

That temper though I think really spoiled what beauty she did have...she got nice and sweet later, but it was hard to forget how angry she had been.

To remark on what Zeruda said: I have to agree in that I prefer some other designs of Zelda better. When I look at her design for instance on the banner above, she almost looks "cold", reminding me of one of those power-women in business. Or of Queen Elizabeth I...totally beautiful, yet powerful. I liked how she seemed warm and vulnerable in WW or OoT.

I just finished reading the manga for Oot, and I haven't played the game, so now I know about Oot. And yeah... Your right. I don't like the Zelda that much now in TP... She might be one of the most beautiful females in TP (actually, the most beautiful...), but she is almost emotionless in the game, and there is a minor connection between Link and her... But I think that there's a reason why the makers did that:
In every game, they set up a certain number of clues to show relationships between Link/anybody. So, since there few clues about Zelink in TP (which SUCKS!!!!!!!! ), they will either show it all in the manga, or do something else to repave the road they set up already for Zelink... Hopefully...


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Maybe that's a good part of the reason Ilia was so insecure about him leaving in the beginning. He'd never seen other girls before and she may have been afraid he'd meet someone else. ( I doubt she was actually afraid of Zelda taking him, but Rusl had mentioned meeting her to Link, as if it was a good thing. )

That temper though I think really spoiled what beauty she did have...she got nice and sweet later, but it was hard to forget how angry she had been.

To remark on what Zeruda said: I have to agree in that I prefer some other designs of Zelda better. When I look at her design for instance on the banner above, she almost looks "cold", reminding me of one of those power-women in business. Or of Queen Elizabeth I...totally beautiful, yet powerful. I liked how she seemed warm and vulnerable in WW or OoT.

I totally agree with what you said about Illia. You just can't forget that she got so mad at Link. About Zelda, she shows those emotions in TP too. When Link's a wolf for the fist time and he meets her, she looks startled that you're there and sad, almost vulnerable, when she talks about how she had to surrender. At the part when she gives herself up for Midna, she's warm and kind. She shows that too when she's revived and feels sympathy for all the sufferung that Midna's endured. At the end, Zelda also shows how kind she is when talking to Midna about how the godesses ment for them to meet and that their world can't exist without the other. The banner here has pictures from SSBB and the pics in the middle look beautiful, but neither look kind. It doesn't mean that they aren't warm in the game.

Maybe that's a good part of the reason Ilia was so insecure about him leaving in the beginning. He'd never seen other girls before and she may have been afraid he'd meet someone else. ( I doubt she was actually afraid of Zelda taking him, but Rusl had mentioned meeting her to Link, as if it was a good thing. )

That temper though I think really spoiled what beauty she did have...she got nice and sweet later, but it was hard to forget how angry she had been.

To remark on what Zeruda said: I have to agree in that I prefer some other designs of Zelda better. When I look at her design for instance on the banner above, she almost looks "cold", reminding me of one of those power-women in business. Or of Queen Elizabeth I...totally beautiful, yet powerful. I liked how she seemed warm and vulnerable in WW or OoT.

I totally agree with what you said about Illia. You just can't forget that she got so mad at Link. About Zelda, she shows those emotions in TP too. When Link's a wolf for the fist time and he meets her, she looks startled that you're there and sad, almost vulnerable, when she talks about how she had to surrender. At the part when she gives herself up for Midna, she's warm and kind. She shows that too when she's revived and feels sympathy for all the sufferung that Midna's endured. At the end, Zelda also shows how kind she is when talking to Midna about how the godesses ment for them to meet and that their world can't exist without the other. The banner here has pictures from SSBB and the pics in the middle look beautiful, but neither look kind. It doesn't mean that they aren't warm in the game.

Oh, I agree she was downright warm mannered with Midna in the end, but she still seemed so "business like" compared up against different versions of herself. I think the difference was really she had no unique connection to Link here. I almost saw Link as a servant compared to her...not her equal barring the one scene in the end.

I think another thing that affected this was that she truly should have been "Queen Zelda" here, the term I've seen is "matriarch" used to describe her role. She was sitting on the actual throne when Zant invaded, her father gone. In that she was very much a woman, not a girl. Her appearance reflected that. I guess I just prefer her more as the younger Princess, comparable to Link who is never quite a man either.

I completely disagree with what was said about Zelda in TP. She is a warm, caring individual, but at the same time she is a strong, independant woman. Why would anyone want a woman to be vulnerable? Just because Zelda doesn't need a guy to survive in the world doesn't make her cold. In fact, I believe that Zelda in TP represents a more modern personality that women have today. Women and men are equal, and more women should embrace the new ways that have been opened for them. One of the reasons why I like this Zelda is because she does not strike me as the type of person that has to rely on a man. She should not be portrayed as someone who cannot fend for herself. The only thing that I do agree with is the fact that Zelda is very beautiful.

Note: There were hints in the game that supported Zelda/Link

Of course there are hints, but people think that there should be more because there are two other eligible bachelorettes in TP. Since Zelda spent the least amount of time wih Link, we start to think that it's not Zelink to be the main picture in TP. I said this in my last post, and I'll say it again: Maybe there's a reasonable explanation for all this mix-up. Hopefully it's reasonable, because it's a argumentable topic. I'm almost positive that in the next game, they'll show something to us that'll either make us go "THANK GOD! I'M SO HAPPY THIS FINALLY WORKED OUT!!!", or a "LIFE SUCKS! WHY DID THEY HAVE TO DO THAT???"...

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I don't think that they will explicitly state that there is something between the two, mostly because it allows different people to interperet the story in different ways. It's like you can create your own ending that will suit what you feel should occur.

What I mean by vulnerable is more, "vulnerable with Link". I like the idea of an internally strong, independant and beautiful heroine who can drop her barrier around someone who loves her dearly. I loved her for it in OoT...she was so strong as Sheik yet when she met him in the Temple of Time she was so open.
She was in TP, but the vulnerability was more with Midna than Link. She was somewhat distant.

In terms of looks, I think I have a better idea of what I meant: Zelda in this one doesn't look as compatible with Link, IMO. Brawl Link seems to be better but I thought TP Link with his facial features and such just looked so common next to her. I love the Magic Armor on him ( which is basically the guy-version of what Zelda wears ) but it took some getting used to. I like the concept of it more than the actual look on Link. Mainly because I thought Link doesn't look imposing enough to wear it properly. He also needs to be cleaned up a bit to wear it. ( a haircut for one )

What I mean by vulnerable is more, "vulnerable with Link". I like the idea of an internally strong, independant and beautiful heroine who can drop her barrier around someone who loves her dearly. I loved her for it in OoT...she was so strong as Sheik yet when she met him in the Temple of Time she was so open.
She was in TP, but the vulnerability was more with Midna than Link. She was somewhat distant.

In terms of looks, I think I have a better idea of what I meant: Zelda in this one doesn't look as compatible with Link, IMO. Brawl Link seems to be better but I thought TP Link with his facial features and such just looked so common next to her. I love the Magic Armor on him ( which is basically the guy-version of what Zelda wears ) but it took some getting used to. I like the concept of it more than the actual look on Link. Mainly because I thought Link doesn't look imposing enough to wear it properly. He also needs to be cleaned up a bit to wear it. ( a haircut for one )

Personally, I think his hair is ok, but maybe a trim on the bangs I suppose, and I think that the one thing that keeps Zelda from looking compatible from Link in the game of TP was his nose. Not pointy enough for, and it's driving me a bit insane. In the titles and mangas, he's got the perfect pointy nose. Even in the banner above is a bit pointier than in TP! I don't know why the makers did that, but I hope it changes next time.

(Is it just me, or are there less and less active members here???)

Eh... I don't think the "looks" really matter when it comes to relationships. It should be based more on whether or not the pair are compatable, which I believe they are in TP as well as the others. They are the same in certain ways but different in others, which is the best kind of relationship you can have with someone. If they were exactly the same, what would they really bring into the other's life? It would certainly get boring after a while, that's for sure.

Of course looks don't matter... I was just making a statement about how they made Link in TP, not necesserily about how Link and zelda go together about looks. Misunderstanding! i do that a lot...

Is this topic really about the relationships in the game??? I thought it was about the fairest of them all...

I'm not arguing for Link and Zelda not to be together, merely talking about outward appearances for the sake of it. I have no doubt Link and Zelda would love each other regardless of looks.

To Hylian Princess: I like how neat and tidy he looked in Brawl. In TP, he just looked shaggy and unkept next to Zelda who has to keep a neat appearance as the representative of her land.

As for his facial features, again, he looks so common next to her. On the bright side, any talk of "Link's her brother" should die on that basis alone. I wouldn't be suprised if they are distantly related ( both Hylians with the strong genetic traits of them ) but not closely.
Their facial structure and such are too different.

Yeah. I agreed with you on most parts, and I always thought he looks that he looked much better in Brawl, but he's still good in TP.
I actually prefer that Link doesn't quite look compatible with Zelda in looks in TP , because it shows that, for one, looks aren't everything, and that they compliment each other in style and where they come from. Link comes from a care-free land where there is always fresh air, but Zelda is always kept inside in the stale air with less freedom. That may be based on their personality and life-style a bit more, but it still shows.