Is there hope for Link and Princess Zelda's Love?, PLEASE! PLEASE! PLEASE!

Illia actually just reminds me of how Link felt about Saria in Oot; they're just really close friends. I don't think Link looks at her in any other way, other than that she's likely his best friend. Midna, like Navi, falls into a similar category. Zelda, however, shares most of the same values as Link and is able to bring something new into the relationship. Also, not everything that happened in the story happened on screen. And at the end of the game it shows Link leaving Ordon, which means that he left Illia behind in a similar manner that Link left Saria behind in Oot. Things are not always what they seem.

Yes I do ship LinkxZelda in TP but I have to admit Link is far more romantically compatible with Illia due to the far more established friendship. This whole offscreen thing only suggests that TP Link can just possibly hook up with even a random Hyrule Town maiden. With that said I do prefer TP Link to hook up with Zelda instead of going back to Illia. But if Link did return to Illia or hooked up with a random Hyrule Town maiden instead of Zelda it would not be as shocking if OOT Link ended up with Malon or Ruto.

And again what do these speculative similar values in morality have to do with romance? So if Link and Zelda are both theoretically Roman Catholic then thats the only reason why they should fall in love?? They hardly ever interracted with each other in TP other than just 3 times from the beginning and at the very end. Plus..the more womanly TP Zelda doesn't even seem remotely interested in the boyish TP Link romantically at all. Would you want to date a guy that seems to act like 4 or 5 years younger than you?? Didn't think so. Anyway...if morality and ethics has something to do with romantic chemistry then Zelda should marry a scholarly theologian type, not a boyish country bumpkin like TP Link.

You know, you say you're 24 but at times I begin to wonder if maybe you're a little younger by the way you're acting. Grow up and stop bashing the characters.

Religion has nothing to do with values. Value refers to what an individual deems as important in personal relationships as well as what they believe should be the norm for the world around them. That's why Link and Zelda have the same values, and you should be able to put those pieces together yourself.

Now, when you say that Link could hook up with anyone since things happen off-screen, that's not true. The scenes that actually appear on screen jointly interact with those that are not on screen, so it is not stretching it to conclude that, based on their encounters (even though they seem like only a few times), there is something more between Zelda and Link. There's nothing in the game that hints towards Link running off with someone randomly. And, as I've stated before, Illia is only a close friend, whom of which he leaves behind at the end of the game. Midna is a mere reflection of Zelda, but nonetheless, she is not Link's potential love interest either because it couldn't possibly work out (besides, their connection is more like the one Link had with Navi in Oot).

Wow!! You are so haawwt when you put me in my place and treat me like a child. Anyway yes..I agree with you in a sense that over an extended amount of time I can see the TP LinkxZelda going from formal aquaintances to good friendship and from there who knows. I think once TP Link outgrows his boyishly unassertive personality LinkxZelda in TP has a great chance no doubt.

Its just currently at the moment TP Link seems too much in awe of Zelda's beauty. For someone as formal and mature as TP Zelda is, its hard for me to believe that she can actually take sweet and shy Link seriously as a compatible love interest IMO.

*sighs* Cool it, ML, or I'm upping your warning another meter. You were doing really well for awhile, but now you're slipping back into the way you where before.

Really? So when the statement is something along the lines of this:

Stating that there's no romantic connection, you think that Nintendo is really stating that there is? Right. . . that makes no sense.

I'd like to see where this statement from Nintendo came from, if anyone has a link or scan.

And unassertive? Boyish? I'm wondering if you're playing the same game that I did. Neither are words I would associate with Link. Just because he doesn't walk around thinking he's the hottest thing since sliced bread and bossing everyone around into doing his will doesn't mean his unassertive. There's a quiet strength about him, and a maturity beyond his years. I just don't know where you're getting these ideas about him.

Anyway, I agree, Link and Zelda had a connection from the moment they met in that tower- even Midna herself saw it beginning. Just because we didn't get to see the romance completed doesn't mean it won't ever happen.

What I meant with boyish in that its consistent with his age. I don't mean TP Link acts like a 5 year old but he sure as heck doesn't act like a man at all at least personality wise. What young guy do you know that is unusually soft spoken, has sheepish puppy dog eyes and gently sighs when any female casually interracts with him?? Not very manly if you ask me. TP Link exudes very sweet and shy 16-17 year old boy personality wise but fights like a manly man for sure.

Its just with TP the obvious pro Midna theme overshadowed Zelda almost completely. Also TP Zelda doesn't seem like the over caring comforter that OOT Zelda is. She seems far more distant from Link in maturity, compatibility, and personality. OOT LinkxZelda and their close friendship can probably over come all the obvious romantic incompatibilities to make romance a reality. But TP Link and Zelda seem to have a long way to go before kissyface will ever happen.

BTW..whats wrong with me expressing my harmless internet crush on TM??

Same values =/= automatic romance. True enough having the same values make you more likely to develop a relationship with that person. But it's also a great basis for nothing more than a friendship. I never once got a romantic vibe from TP Link and Zelda. That whole relationship screamed business/friendship. The two kept each other at arms length it seemed. Maybe Zelda already had a beau and therefore was not interested. I dunno. But the fact is, just because they have the same values, the same cause, and a piece of the triforce doesn't necessarily predict romance. Especially when compared against other relationships that cut it close to romance (MarLink, Ilia/Link, Midna/Link). Heck even OoT Zelda/Link had a more romantic vibe than these two.

Off screen activity is an interpretation of the gamer. Because who knows what happened? My interpretations of the game leads me to think that Link went back home to Ordon and Ilia. Do I like it? No I don't. Do I deny it as a possibility? No I don't. I'm not a great big huge fan of Ilia, mostly because Malon is my farm girl of choice. But I digress. The point is, any off screen interpretation, in the end, is all just fan speculation. Because I could point out that Link went back to the fishing hole and Hena. She said that the boat in her shop she only uses for her boyfriend and when you go fishing (with or without her), you use the same exact boat. Therefore they must already be hooked up. And the real romance develops off screen. Now that's more than an exaggeration (but it makes my Link/Hena shipper heart happy ). But my point is, you can take and interpret anything in the game to make it fit what you want to happen off screen. That doesn't make it true.

You can use the subtle hints that are presented to you in the game, though. There were hints that there is something more between Link and Zelda. Now, not only do Link and Zelda have the same values, but they also have similar personalities that make it so that they are compatible. That's all I'm saying when I said that things can happen off screen.

Now, it's is obivious that Link didn't return to Illia, simply because the ending shows that Link leaves Ordon, which means that he's leaving everyone that he knows there behind. That includes Illia. The fact that the last scene ends with the throne room is an indicator that Link returned to see Princess Zelda.

And I agree with Alantie; Midna knew that Link was drawn to Zelda, not by her appearance, but by her personality. As a wolf he is able to sense things that people tend to miss. Even in reality an animal is capable of sensing the type of person you are (which is the same reason why they are able to sense fear or resentment). Zelda is also able to sense something about Link, and she, too, was drawn to him based on his character. I mean, at first glance she was startled by him, but after a short while she got a sense of who he actually was.

What subtle hints? Link stopped growling at Zelda when she turned around? That could simply mean he realized she wasn't a Twilight Beast or wasn't going to attack him. After all he had just traversed a castle full of stuff trying to kill him. If I were Link, I would've reacted the exact same way. Does that mean he's in love with her? No it doesn't.

Midna rolled her eyes when Link approached Zelda? Big deal. She acted in very similar casual manner when Link found Ilia, someone whom he was much closer to.

Link offered his hand to Zelda when they fought Ganondorf? She had just asked for his help. That could very well signify his agreement to help since Link is basically mute the entire game.

Link's leaving was no indication that he had turned his back on Ilia. He had grown and changed as a person. And that meant he wasn't just going to settle back into his old life. That didn't mean he was going to turn his back on the people in his old life. They were pretty much the only family he has ever known and for him to never return is just something I can't see this Link doing. Ilia knew and understood that Link had become changed and she was more than willing to wait for him to return. She even said as much in Renaldo's house. Why would he give that up for someone he doesn't know? It just doesn't make sense to me.

As for the throne room, I took that as an indication of the Light world's connection with the Twilight one. One half of the statue is shadowed over while the other is not. Midna did say that their world is connected to Hyrule and that they should never forget that. If it were some kind of indication of Link returning to Zelda, I think they would've put something more to it. Like at the end of OoT.

Yeah..what Saami said. Anyway TM..though I really enjoy debating you and reading your well written posts, I think you and the other Zelinkers read WAAAY too deep on these non existant subtle hints for LinkxZelda in TP. Its pretty clear and obvious that TP has Link and Zelda as the least romantically compatible of all the Zelink pairings.

IMO TP Link is uncomfirmed bachelor after the mirror shattered to deny the almost inevitable LinkxMidna pairing. At this point Zelda, Illia, Hena, Telma, Ashi, the bug girl, the fortune telling lady, and random Hyrule Town maidens seem to all have a chance at Link's affection. Its not nearly as one sided LinkxZelda as you make it out to be.

Kay. . . I really hate having to say this and be the bad guy, but once again, people, this is a Zelink forum. People here are going to be shipping Zelink. Respect it. You don't have to like it, but you aren't allowed to rag on us for it. I'm really getting tired of having to warn people for it- if you want to debunk Zelink or argue for your other pairings, take it somewhere else. I'm not going to be leniant about this anymore. We shouldn't have to continually justify ourselves to people about our pairing likes in our own forum. I'm tired of every discussion here turning into a pairing war debate.

No, that's your opinion, so take it to another forum to argue it if you don't like it. Seriously, enough's enough. If you guys feel this way about TP Zelink, I could care less. Go talk about it on another Zelda forum. Not here.

Wasn't trying to be contrary. Just thought it was kinda hard to carry on a discussion if everybody agreed with everybody else. I <3 TP ZeLink. But anyway, sorry.

Saami said nothing wrong. I might have said something harsh being in hard headed and rabid Malinker fanboy mode so I apologize. So put the blame on me not Saami please.

I can understand wanting to add some variety to the conversations, that's not a problem. It's just that I've felt that there's been a lot of negativity towards Zelink around the forums lately, so I just would like to ask that it be toned down a bit. I'm sorry if I sound a bit grouchy, Saami.

I didn't say any names, MalonsLover, so please don't assume I'm blaming Saami for anything since I haven't expressly said whether it's her, you, or someone else I'm talking about.

Well, actually, you can see Link worried when he sees Zelda in the temple (I think thats where) before he fights her, but then STUPID MIDNA STOPS HIM! And then he makes that cute worried look at her!