Ideas for fics, In need of some, scab if you want

Rofl. Oops, I suppose I should clarify. What I mean is, Saria is like the leader of a secret organization, but she doesn't go out and do the dirty work, she's the planner and provids funding. . . Hmm, maybe Nabooru would do better in that post

Yes, but, we also need to put some character into her. I need CGM's input on this; she's the expert. While it could work, you need to consider the personality, and the twist. Though it is a great twist, it just depends on how they take it in...

Yes. *small sigh* I'm torn. . . I can't decide now between Saria and Nabooru. Imput, CM? I want this decided before I start writing.

(Hey, sorry for the delay.)

I'm not quite sure how the whole thing with Saria would work out in the main plot . The basic idea is that Link does the wrong thing for the right purpose, with perhaps Ganondorf being his main target.

I personally find that the simpler the main plotline, the better. Adding side stories from supporting characters as action backstory is often very difficult. This story is already complex enough if you try to include the debate about killing the bad guy, supporting the sister and getting the girl.

If I were in this position, I wouldn't try to add another character who is seeking revenge on anyone. Because that would pull the focus away from Link's main dilemna and put the emphasis on Saria, who, while surely interesting, does not necessarily make the story progress.

Before adding another important character, I usually wonder "is this character a necessary plot device?" "Will this character steal the spotlight?" "How much chapter space will this character occupy?"

If you choose to put Saria's own story in, you have to remember that Link's story might be eroded slightly in favour of her drama. If you choose not to put that vengeance thing in, then Link's story is intact, but the 'twist' doesn't happen.

The fact is, you'll find it's hard to keep track of all the characters' personal stories and make sure they get a satisfying conclusion at the epilogue of it all. It's best to keep one plot with one finale.

Of course, Link (and maybe Sheik) need a superior and someone to give them the mission in the first place. But since the emphasis will logically be on them as cops, it's not necessary for their superior to have a 'round' personality. He/She can remain a flat side-character, one who does not evolve and merely serves his/her role.

I know it's often unappealing to discuss a character in terms of flat/round, but the fact is that it makes the job easier. And it keeps the plot simple, clean, and to the point. It's not a bad thing for a character to be flat: you need a couple of those too, sometimes.

Ultimately, it's your call, but I personally find that if Saria (or Nabooru) makes an appearance in this story, it should be as a flat side-character whose task is merely to expose facts that Link (and Sheik) would not have known otherwise. The role of an instigator, and not a sub-main character. This would have the advantage of helping the story advance, and not slow its established rhythm with a parenthesis that doesn't focus on the main character(s).

If you indeed choose to go through with it anyway, I'd suggest making it a very minor detail, something mentioned just in passing and that doesn't become big enough to merit your story an 'Angst' rating.

Bottom line: keep it simple n' focused.

(And remember: flat characters don't automatically mean they're boring!)

Well, considering it's Alantie-chan's storyline, I personally think the plot device is fine. But I do agree that it shouldn't be overdone. At the very most, I would suggest one chapter (or half a chapter) to cover it. Like, a flashback. In that chapter, to keep the focus on Link more, you could put in some parts where Link/Sheik is voicing his thoughts to Saria/Nabooru/etc.

This was supposed to be Angst!

I think it would be nicer to have an instigator thingo, because it sorta gives a lot of controversies. But...well, it would kinda work I guess. I just think it's a bit more interesting to have her as an instigator. It all depends on how it's written..

Alantie-chan, if you write using this storyline, can you post any material you write involving Saria on this thread? So we can review it for you? Sorry if I sound like nosy parker...

Oh, and...

I need the names of every single Female character from the LoZ series that yall can name. Plus, if you name a classic, or WW, or Majora's Mask character, can you write down three words to describe them?

So far, I have:

Zelda
Malon
Veran
Maple (from OoA, and OoS)
Romani-don't know what she's like
Cremia-ditto above
Anju-ditto above
Impa
Saria
Aryll-ditto Anju
Tetra
Ruto
Lulu-dunno what she's like
Nabooru
Marin-need characteristics
Naryu
Din
Farore

Actually, that might be enough...no, it's not. If you think of anymore, just write 'em down. And could I please get some characteristics for the other characters that I ddin't know about?

And, for male characters:

Link
Ralph
Sir Raven (heh, should I? from OoA manga...)
Onox
Ganondorf
Komali-need characteristics
Kafei-ditto above
Sheik

If you think of any more male ones, please write down.

And lastly...

Watch Mai HiME. To discern my true intentions.

Well, as I said, it's your call, but I'm curious.

And, DH, here's my most complete list of Loz named characters, but some might require some research. Also, I had no age restrictions, so...

Male:

Talon (Malon's dad)
Rauru (Sage of Light)
Darunia (Sage of Fire)
Gonzo (Tetra's pirates)
Senza (Tetra's pirates)
Nudge (Tetra's pirates)
Zuko (Tetra's pirates)
Mako (Tetra's pirates)
Niko (Tetra's pirates)
Mikau (guitarist for the Indigo-Gos)
Toto (manager of the I-Gos)
Japas (bassist of the I-Gos)
Evan (pianist of the I-Gos)
Tijo (drummer of the I-Gos)
Darmani (copy of Darunia/ghost of an ancient goron hero)
Komali (Rito chieftain's son/in 'crush' with Medli)
Quill (Rito postman)
Tael (fairy sibling to Tatl)
Tingle (the annoying guy who thinks he's a fairy)
Mido
Dampé
Vaati
Aghanim

Female:

Koume
Kotake
Lulu (singer for the Indigo-Gos)
Madame Aroma (mother of Kafei/mayor's wife)
Medli (Rito attendant to Valoo, the dragon deity)
Tatl (fairy partner in MM)
Navi (fairy partner in OoT)

If you want descriptions for MM or TWW characters, pm me, okay? It's too long for here.

I'm spouting a hundred storylines right now. CGM, if you could keep the rape one for yourself, that woujld be cool, 'cause I think you coujld pull it off way better than me. Alantie, I think you should take the gangwar one, because you seem to really like it and all. So just post whenever you've got material and we'll provide some friendly reviewing.

I really need to stop watching anime...

And I shall work on finishing off a fic...so I can post my next one up...

Alrighty! I'll get hard to work on the gangwars. Woot woot! I only hope I can do a good job with it. Yes, I'll post tidbits of it up here for you to critic the heck out of me

And never stop watching anime DH! It is our life's blood!!!

Ngeh... DH, I really had other ideas... I'm just here for backup and suggestions. I usually have more than enough ideas for myself...

Ara? Soudesuka?

Hai...hai...*insert thinking smiley*

Ah! Wakata!

It's alright. I just felt like writing that.

I might try the rape thing. In the holidays, when I have time...

Unless I get a job.

I just had a brilliant beyond brilliant fic idea!! You guys have seen Ladyhawke, haven't you? *hears crickets chirp* If you haven't seen it, you haven't lived. Well, if you haven't, you can read about it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ladyhawke

My point in asking this? I want to do a Zelink fic to this story! With the release of TP, it fits perfectly!! What do you think? *looks around at the empty forum*

EGADS! I love LOVE LOVE Ladyhawke! Its one of my favorite-ist EVER. Do it Alantie. DO IT! =D

Yay! I'm glad you like the idea Amaya!! Ladyhawke is one of my favorites too. Just one question, who do we want in the roles of Mouse and the drunk Friar? I was thinking Midna or Saria for Mouse, but I have not a clue who to put in as the Friar.

Lol, as far as I know this is probably CGM's neck of the woods. I haven't got a clue what's going on...



Mind, here's my storyline tht I was thinking up. It's kinda a bit like TP but there are major differences. And no Midna, or Twilight Thingos...

Link has given up being a hero for Hyrule, and isolated himself from the rest of the world. Ganon storms Hyrule Castle, and there seemingly kills the Princess Zelda, and takes over the whole of Hyrule. Most people are living under fear of death and torture from Ganon's creations, "The Faceless Ones".

One night, Link is attacked by a Faceless One; he battles it and ends up knocking its mask off. Surprisingly, it has Zelda's face on it. Enraged by the charade (he and Zelda had been very close friends-I avoid the term lovers as of yet) he confronts Ganon at Hyrule Castle. Ganon explains it as a misunderstanding and that the Faceless One was not under orders from him; when Link threatens him and asks for the truth, Ganon's guards surround him to protect Ganon. Eventually Link leaves Ganon with the Faceless One as his servant, and the two of them return to Link's house.

*predictable plot-the Faceless One begins to develop feelings for Link, Link also begins to like her, but can't bring himself to say it*

It doesn't end like that. It's just a basic outline of the first four or so chapters. The REAL Zelda also appears, and yes Ganon dies. And the Faceless One will end up with Link in the end. But it is LxZ. Trust me. Opinions?

PS: I'll ask CGM to take a look at the Ladyhawke and give her ideas.

Ah, Ladyhawke. I knew someone would bring that one up!

It's a good idea, and self-contained. Not to mention, since it's based on a plot that already exists, it'll be easy to follow.

As per the roles of Mouse and Imperius, well, Mouse can be just anyone. Sheik, perhaps, since he seems like the kind who would escape from prison or save Link from death and that sort of thing. As for the friar, it can also be any elderly character... Rauru, Auru, Ezlo, even. Or you can go for Rusl, who was kind of like Link's mentor...

Anyway, it seems like it would make sense. It's up to you, of course.

As for you, DH, your idea seems fine, except... well, maybe I didn't get it properly, but how could Link end up with a "faceless one" who looks like Zelda who is not Zelda because the real Zelda appears later... and the story still end up being a Zelink? I think I got a little confused there.

Otherwise, you seem to have thought your idea through, maybe even more than I typically think plots through (I find knowing every detail breaks the fun of writing it, kind of like spoiling the punch for yourself!). It's hard to give detailed impressions considering you've only esquissed it for us, but so far it seems fine. Perhaps you can clear it up a little for me, so that I can be more helpful...