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 Malon topic, Yeah.
gliderpilotgirl
Posted: Sep 2 2008, 03:40 PM


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QUOTE (MalonsLover @ Sep 2 2008, 03:18 AM)
As for the Ruto scene: His awkward reaction upon seeing a naked female for the first time in his life was in perfect character in relation to the pure childish naive innocence aspect of his character IMO laugh.gif One of my fave cutscenes BTW wink.gif

BACK ON TOPIC: I guess my interpretation of Malons character was just the opposite of you and Love of Zeldas I guess. I felt a closer connection to her than Zelda simply because I sympathized with her more as a commoner and I did not mind doing favors for her at all. In contrast the Zelinkers found it to be annoying in helping Malon whereas I thought helping her was one of the best parts of the game. smile.gif As I said before, I gravitated more to Malon because I WANTED to be her knight in shining armor and I WANTED to be her partner in helping her maintain LonLon ranch. I personally did not want Link being cooped up in Hyrule Castle being a subservant lapdog/errand boy to Zelda having to deal with being out of place in the Hyrule Court. IMO Links place is with Malon being close to the commoners of Hyrule and being able to more quickly deal with a malevolent force with the geographical benefit in living at Lon Lon ranch. IMO the people could rally around someone like Link who is up close and personal instead of being distant and away in being cooped up in the Castle, just like the annoying cartoon. Well thats what Link represented to me in MY OOT game at least.

I wasn't referring to that scene, I was referring to the scene in the Sacred Realm when she awakens as a Sage. It had nothing to do with her body, he reacts instantly when she brings up love in her talk.

And there you go: YOU like Malon, so therefore it revolves around that. It's your perrogative as "you are Link" in your game. I'm not perfectly unbiased as I prefer Zelda in my own. But I'm trying to ignore that and bring the game/other sources/reality into it for the sake of debating on the internet. Of course undeniable emotion does play a role, but I think there's specific reactions they've tried to inspire.

What I am trying to say is I feel the series has given me more reason to believe Link and Zelda will ultimately triumph, though the option is also there for Malon. TP is a bit of an odd duck. But it's really not: Midna IS Zelda, at least she's her role. Many people believe Link fell love with Midna, so we still had ZeLink in way. But the mirror took that possibility away.
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MalonsLover
Posted: Sep 2 2008, 04:56 PM


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What difference does it make on how he reacted to Rutos comment. That didn't change my mind about him still being a child trapped in a mans body at all.

Back on topic: I saw Malon as just a simple commoner with simple needs and I had empathy for her thats all. If it annoys you that I didn't view her as the shallow, self centered, narrow minded bimbo as you ond other Zelinkers did, then just get over it and move on with your life and leave me be.
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Love_of_Zelda
Posted: Sep 2 2008, 06:32 PM


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Back on topic: I saw Malon as just a simple commoner with simple needs and I had empathy for her thats all. If it annoys you that I didn't view her as the shallow, self centered, narrow minded bimbo as you ond other Zelinkers did, then just get over it and move on with your life and leave me be.


That begs the question - why did you create and account and begin commenting here? You can't throw out theories and expect to be left alone. You certainly can't be as rude as you've been and expect to be left alone, either.

You also ignore a comment that I have made on another thread - true Zelinkers do not view Malon as a shallow, self-centered, narrow-minded bimbo. She has qualities of self-centeredness, but she is not a whore, and real Zelinkers don't view here as such, just like mature Malinkers should not malign Zelda for the bad qualities that they interpret as her having.
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Saami
Posted: Sep 2 2008, 07:02 PM


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QUOTE (MalonsLover @ Sep 2 2008, 11:56 AM)
What difference does it make on how he reacted to Rutos comment. That didn't change my mind about him still being a child trapped in a mans body at all.

Back on topic: I saw Malon as just a simple commoner with simple needs and I had empathy for her thats all. If it annoys you that I didn't view her as the shallow, self centered, narrow minded bimbo as you ond other Zelinkers did, then just get over it and move on with your life and leave me be.

And I said I was through debating this.

Anyway, you are being rather rude. Maligning comments and being on the offensive all the time is not going to make your experience here a delightful one. Sometimes it's simply best to agree to disagree as opposed to making rash assumptions and generalizations. It really isn't fair. And to be quite frank, it's getting rather annoying.

To me, I do not think Malon is shallow nor self centered. Her character wasn't explored enough in-game to even make that assumption.
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MalonsLover
Posted: Sep 2 2008, 08:49 PM


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What do you mean?? I'm having a delightful time debunking Zelinker theories cool.gif And shouldn't you be on my side Sammi?? blink.gif (Is very confused now)

To Love of Zelda: When have I stated bad qualities about Zelda?? I have only stated that its not mandatory for Link to be married to Zelda to perform his hero duties and nothing more. And like Gilderpilot, you seem rather annoyed that I don't see Malon as being self centered as you do
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Saami
Posted: Sep 2 2008, 08:57 PM


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QUOTE (MalonsLover @ Sep 2 2008, 03:49 PM)
What do you mean?? I'm having a delightful time debunking Zelinker theories cool.gif And shouldn't you be on my side Sammi?? blink.gif (Is very confused now)

To Love of Zelda: When have I stated bad qualities about Zelda?? I have only stated that its not mandatory for Link to be married to Zelda to perform his hero duties and nothing more. And like Gilderpilot, you seem rather annoyed that I don't see Malon as being self centered as you do

Oh no don't misunderstand me. I do agree with you. I don't think Link needs to be "omg so in love with Zelda" to accomplish his duties. I do not believe he ended up with Zelda either.

But the way you present this side of the argument can easily be construed as rude. And it doesn't help. Saavy?
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MalonsLover
Posted: Sep 2 2008, 09:12 PM


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Thats cool. Anyway, if you ever get jumped by Zelinkers on a Zelda vs. Malon topic, PM me and I'll have your back for sure. cool.gif 20.gif

GO LINKXMALON!!
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Saami
Posted: Sep 2 2008, 09:36 PM


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QUOTE (MalonsLover @ Sep 2 2008, 04:12 PM)
Thats cool. Anyway, if you ever get jumped by Zelinkers on a Zelda vs. Malon topic, PM me and I'll have your back for sure. cool.gif 20.gif

GO LINKXMALON!!

If you have read any of my previous posts, I don't really need you to have my back. And I've step out of the debating arena. At least when it comes to Link x Malon or Malon vs. Zelda. (unless something new comes up). I'm not here to exclusively defend my ship or the reasons why I do not ship Zelink in OoT.

I'm here because I ship Zelink in Twilight Princess and I want to carry on discussions with those who do the same. Not trying to "stir" the fandom. Simply here to enjoy it. So thanks for the offer, but no thank you.
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MalonsLover
Posted: Sep 2 2008, 09:45 PM


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No problem. I've read your posts and they are all well written. I only offered because I know some Zelinkers can be quite annoying in presenting some of their delusional theories as stone cold fact without any in game evidence to support it.

Believe it or not I ship LinkxZelda in TP but I can't force myself to believe it due to lack of game evidence I'm afraid. dry.gif But I stil prefer LinkxZelda over LinkxIllia in TP thats for sure.

Back on Topic: Malon ROCKS!! biggrin.gif
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Love_of_Zelda
Posted: Sep 3 2008, 02:56 AM


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QUOTE (MalonsLover @ Sep 2 2008, 03:45 PM)
No problem. I've read your posts and they are all well written. I only offered because I know some Zelinkers can be quite annoying in presenting some of their delusional theories as stone cold fact without any in game evidence to support it.

I have not read any stone cold bits of evidence from Malinker camp either. Only interpretations and feelings. What many Malinkers and Zelinkers take as "solid evidence" is in fact subject to biases, real-life experiences, etc.
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MalonsLover
Posted: Sep 3 2008, 03:46 AM


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Oh I agree 100%. I'll be the first to admit my reasons for LinkxMalon are theoretical simply because I'm fully aware that the Child Timeline ends at MM and the Adult Timeline ends when Zelda sends Link back. Its all personal preference on my part for sure, but its still fun to theorize and debate about. biggrin.gif
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Love_of_Zelda
Posted: Sep 8 2008, 02:22 AM


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I'm going to throw something out there, something I have just noticed today:

When speaking to Malon, the player can choose to speak to her over and over and over. And yet, after a certain point, the conversation stays static - in other words, as far as the game is concerned, interaction with Malon is over.

After Ingo is saved, the farm is saved, and Talon returns, the player can play Malon's obstacle course:

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Epona looks great! It looks like you were able to tame her, too!
               How about trying your skill with Epona on an obstacle course?
               I'll time you for two laps. It's pretty challenging. If you miss
               jumping a fence in the proper order, you'll fail. How about it?
               Do you want to try?

                 * - "Don't do it" does not prompt any additional script.
                     "Let's go" prompts:

               The current record is 50 seconds. First, try to beat this record!
               If you can beat the record, I'll give you a present! Give it your
               best shot, OK? All right, let's get started!


If the player is successful, a cow is delivered to Link's house in the Kokiri Forest. And that's basically the end of interaction between the player and Malon. The player can choose to go back, play the obstacle course again and talk to her - but the conversation remains the same.

To me and in my opinion, this points to a stronger likelihood of a relationship between Link and Zelda. The dialogue and interaction between the player and Zelda is constantly evolving even into the very last screen of the game.

I got the script from here.
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MalonsLover
Posted: Sep 8 2008, 03:59 AM


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I admit, the whole reference to Ingo, that he is not such a bad man is annoying. But usually I just have Link stand there with Navi twirling around him and simply staring at Malon completely entranced by her wonderful singing in the ROMANTIC setting by the moonlight. Personally I like that cow in Link's house. IMO it symbolizes Link and Malons growing affection for each other. biggrin.gif Does Zelda have special access to Links house in Kokiri village?? Ha.. cool.gif ..didn't think so.
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Love_of_Zelda
Posted: Sep 8 2008, 01:33 PM


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I thought it was interesting that MalonsLover brought up the possibility (in another thread) that Malon and Ingo married. IF this is the case, then we might look to TP for confirmation. I would like to state here that genetic facial similarities can be passed down for many, many generations, and while the likelihood of those genetics continuing to be obvious decrease over each generation, there is still a chance for them to show up in each new generation.

Here we have Malo and Talo for TP - these two bear similar names to Malon and Talon:

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And here we have Ingo:

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Look at the eyebrows between Malo, Talo, and Ingo - similar, no? Also note the name similarities. Malo and Ingo also have the same sharp manner of speech as we see Malo in his store and Ingo before the seven years begin.

Maybe these are coincidences or maybe they are not. For the two kids to be named Malo and Talo, IMO, seems to be fairly deliberate on Nintendo's part.

EDIT: I did not put Adult Malon on here because there seems to be no official artwork for her - just some screenshots done by other people. Because official artwork reveals so much and screenshots downplay so much, I have left a photo of Adult Malon out.
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MalonsLover
Posted: Sep 8 2008, 04:03 PM


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I think Gilderpilot bought this to my attention awhile back with Talo & Malo being descendants of IngoxMalon. In the case that LinkxZelda did happen this theory is definitely possible.
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