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Evidence/Obviousness, Proof!
| gliderpilotgirl |
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I thought it was blatantly obvious. If you play through the cutscenes with him in it, you can see it even more clearly. here's the link: there's a better headshot of him in it further down: http://www.zeldauniverse.net/forums/zelda-...e-kingship.htmlplus all over deviantart ( for LZ Angel ) there's pic's of it. Well, so it is likely a "leftover" from the previous hero ( Hero of Time ) if nothing else, it shows the dev's were thinking in the L x Z direction....as that must have taken quite a bit of work to draw and make for the game.
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| Alantie |
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I must admit that I hadn't noticed the thing about the Magic Armor, but now that I've read that and looked at the picture, its too obvious! Lol. Link the King. . . I rather like the idea. Wow, that is just too neat! Does anyone have any other screenshots of Link in the Magic Armor? I'd love to see it in other lights and angles. The only point I would debate in the article (just because I'm that way  ) Is the part about Link not being connected to the OoT. True the King, Jaboon, Deku Tree and Valoo believe that he does not have a connection to the Hero of Time, but this is also countered by Ganon after Link defeats Puppet Ganon. He says something along the lines of, "It is as I thought! You are the Hero of Time Reborn!" As much as I love the good guys (King, Jaboon, Deku, and Valoo), who would know better than Ganon, having actually known the OoT Link? *shrugs sheepishly* That's just my take on things there. I'm for the whol reincarnation thing, but I know a lot of people don't go for that theory.  Now aside from that, I loved the article, and I'm saving it for future references.
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| gliderpilotgirl |
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| QUOTE (Alantie @ Oct 8 2007, 05:21 PM) | I must admit that I hadn't noticed the thing about the Magic Armor, but now that I've read that and looked at the picture, its too obvious! Lol. Link the King. . . I rather like the idea. Wow, that is just too neat! Does anyone have any other screenshots of Link in the Magic Armor? I'd love to see it in other lights and angles.
The only point I would debate in the article (just because I'm that way ) Is the part about Link not being connected to the OoT. True the King, Jaboon, Deku Tree and Valoo believe that he does not have a connection to the Hero of Time, but this is also countered by Ganon after Link defeats Puppet Ganon. He says something along the lines of, "It is as I thought! You are the Hero of Time Reborn!" As much as I love the good guys (King, Jaboon, Deku, and Valoo), who would know better than Ganon, having actually known the OoT Link? *shrugs sheepishly* That's just my take on things there. I'm for the whol reincarnation thing, but I know a lot of people don't go for that theory. 
Now aside from that, I loved the article, and I'm saving it for future references. |
Unfortunately it's hard to find screenshots of it..I took this one myself with a camera. ( Which is why it's so crappy!) You need like a video capture card to do it better!.  Hmm...and that's where the split timeline comes in. ( Do you believe in it? ) The recent interview with Aonuma had him actually say Twilight Princess is parallel to Windwaker. So they are happening at the same time, but WW in the world where the events of OoT took place..and TP in post-MM Link's world, where the events of OoT were prevented ahead of time from happening. If the Magic Armor was that Link's, it was from after he grew up a second time. That meant he did return to Hyrule..and Zelda's "I believe in my heart that a day will come when I shall meet you again" came true. If you believe that Link did go back in time at the end of OoT and effectively stopped existing in that timeline...he couldn't have kids in that one. WW Link couldn't possibly be his descendant unless OoT Link got some girl pregnant before he got sent back. As much as I don't like the idea of reincarnation, I do think it fits with the "deja-vu" feeling the whole game projected..for both Link and Zelda. ( Tetra and Sheik's similarity for one )
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| Ghirox |
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I really think that some characters want Link & Zelda to be together. For example, in the end of Twilight Princess, Midna decides to leave Link & Zelda together instead of leaving the Twilight Mirror in Hyrule so as to go there with them if any of them wanted.
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| zelda-in-disguise |
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I am hidden, yet obvious...I am Zelda in disguise...
 
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| QUOTE (Alantie @ Dec 12 2006, 03:46 PM) | My my, you certainly are enthusiastic! Love the siggy, by the way. Its beautiful!
Ahem, anyway, I agree, the ending of OoT was perhaps the biggest giveaway to the Zelink romance. Instead of just taking the ocarina from Link, Zelda rests her hand ontop of his, so sad because she knows the moment she takes the ocarina from him her love will have to leave her. . . *bursts into tears* Waaaahhh!!! I really did cry at that scene the first time I played the game. I still tear up, lol.
Ha, another hint, from WW. I think its after you get the bombs and when you step into one of Beetle's shops and speak to him, he says something about you and that 'lovely pirate' girl. And then he says, 'Oooh! You are blushing sir!' or something to that effect. Shows that others notice the attraction between Link and Zelda 
Pfff, of COURSE the manga can be used as proof! *smacks the silly people* Geez, what are they smoking? |
These are the exact words that Beetle says: "By the way Mr.Customer, are you aquainted with that adorable little pirate girl? You have a bashful look on your face Mr. Customer. You can't hide it from me! Yuk yuk yuk yuk yuk yuk!" So that's proof for ZeLink in tWW.
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| Angel Zelda |
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| QUOTE (zelda-in-disguise @ Jul 27 2008, 10:07 PM) | | QUOTE (Alantie @ Dec 12 2006, 03:46 PM) | My my, you certainly are enthusiastic! Love the siggy, by the way. Its beautiful!
Ahem, anyway, I agree, the ending of OoT was perhaps the biggest giveaway to the Zelink romance. Instead of just taking the ocarina from Link, Zelda rests her hand ontop of his, so sad because she knows the moment she takes the ocarina from him her love will have to leave her. . . *bursts into tears* Waaaahhh!!! I really did cry at that scene the first time I played the game. I still tear up, lol.
Ha, another hint, from WW. I think its after you get the bombs and when you step into one of Beetle's shops and speak to him, he says something about you and that 'lovely pirate' girl. And then he says, 'Oooh! You are blushing sir!' or something to that effect. Shows that others notice the attraction between Link and Zelda 
Pfff, of COURSE the manga can be used as proof! *smacks the silly people* Geez, what are they smoking? |
These are the exact words that Beetle says: "By the way Mr.Customer, are you aquainted with that adorable little pirate girl? You have a bashful look on your face Mr. Customer. You can't hide it from me! Yuk yuk yuk yuk yuk yuk!" So that's proof for ZeLink in tWW. |
And proof of Zelink in OoT would be Ruto saying, "You're looking for the Princess Zelda, aren't you? Hah! You can't hide anything from me!" Another piece of OoT!Zelink evidence is Ganondorf saying, "If you wish to rescue Zelda, come to my Castle!"
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| Angel Zelda |
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| QUOTE (zelda-in-disguise @ Aug 5 2008, 11:15 PM) | | Fado is the goatherd guy in TP. He calls you to help him round up the goats. Link is more of the assistant goatherd. |
Fado is also a character in Wind Waker (don't know much about him; haven't played WW), and Fado is also the name of the blonde Kokiri girl whose hair is in two buns in Ocarina of Time.
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I am hidden, yet obvious...I am Zelda in disguise...
 
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| QUOTE (Angel Zelda @ Aug 5 2008, 11:58 PM) | | QUOTE (zelda-in-disguise @ Aug 5 2008, 11:15 PM) | | Fado is the goatherd guy in TP. He calls you to help him round up the goats. Link is more of the assistant goatherd. |
Fado is also a character in Wind Waker (don't know much about him; haven't played WW), and Fado is also the name of the blonde Kokiri girl whose hair is in two buns in Ocarina of Time.
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The Fado in WW is the ancestor kokiri of Makar. He used to be the Wind sage before Ganondorf killed him.
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| Hylian Princess |
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| QUOTE (zelda-in-disguise @ Aug 6 2008, 02:03 AM) | | The Fado in WW is the ancestor kokiri of Makar. He used to be the Wind sage before Ganondorf killed him. |
Ohhhh, so Fado in TP, is that the guy with those tusks??? I know the Fado in WW, he's the ghost who can play the violin, right? He's the Wind Sage! Thanks!
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Regarding evidence, Melora a great artist on Deviantart who is also webmaster of the website historyofhyrule.com posted this journal saying Eiji Aunoma basically made the changes to the story regarding the characters and scenes. http://woodland-mel.deviantart.com/journal/23010652/from Melora's Journal And, my suspicions were correct! Another translator, a friend of a friend to the community, (I don't want people to bother them,) has tackled the interview of Aonuma and the Himekawa girls, who drew/wrote much of the Zelda manga; it states that it WAS Aonuma's idea to make changes to the story and to add characters. It says that he spoke with Miyamoto about this desire, and the girls said that they followed Nintendo's wishes on the matter. Also, it really confirmed that they did indeed do official art for the Wind Waker (the cute stained glass window looking stuff that NoA made wallpapers of.) And Aonuma also states that the Rito race, from the Wind Waker, were directly inspired by, and created because of, one of Himekawa's original flying characters from one of their earlier works. So, if you hate the way the manga deviates from the game stories; please don't, at least completely, blame Akira Himekawa for that Like most professional artists: you're working for a client and you will most likely have to follow their wishes if you want the job. I'll be posting that interview, along with the the other stuff, when the translation project moves a little further along. [I] We know Himekawa made several Zelda manga's which always included some ZeldaxLink fluff (exclusive the OoA and Oos Manga's)
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| MalonsLover |
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I have never read any of the Manga but from what has been told to me recently and in the past is that the artwork is very well done. From what I have seen its like a traditionally well done anime artistic form. Nothing exceptional..but good enough to where I really want to read it anyway.
I know something about American comic book artistic styles but not anime like Mangas I'm afraid.
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