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Defending the Princess, Why Zelda?
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The morning sunrise brings with it the stench of blood...
  
Group: Hylian
Posts: 549
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Joined: 10-June 06

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Boo! Not high. Well, starters. She's nice, and I can accept the fact that we don't have to have LxZ. But even so, bashers, you suck!...well, not really, but yeah. don't bash. not cool. That goes for Linkkeeperofcourage. No bashing. I am not a mod. But I say so. No bashing. Not even Malon. Only noogies. *knuckles Malon* Ah yes...as I was saying. However, back to subject. She's nice, she's hot (well, she's close enough for it), she's pretty much one of those "dream girls" that you get. Except you can never get her. Makes it so damn frustrating...
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Group: Kokiri Kid
Posts: 51
Member No.: 32
Joined: 3-August 06

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| QUOTE (CrazygurlMadness @ Aug 4 2006, 01:11 PM) | | Well, I'm not sure I'm going to HATE Ilia. I'm probably going to see her as another Saria. And I kind of like Saria. |
She just seems so bossy in the demos. The way she yelled at Link and her own father... I don't really see her as a Saria type character, more like the new Malon.  My mind isn't completely closed to her (hate was too strong a word I think), but I can't help dreading what the fans will do with her.
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Keeper of Link's Handcuffs (and local smartass)
  
Group: Hylian
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Joined: 8-June 06

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Only time will tell, and, as I always say, "We'll cross that bridge when we get there." I think she just sounds bossy because the demo was abbreviated, because it's not explained as clearly that she's worried for Epona and Link (because he makes Epona jump all these fences, etc.). Let's still give her a chance. She can be a friend and not be romantically involved with Link. Even though she'll probably have a crush on him. Like every one of us.
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| Luna-Nayru |
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Taste my pain, b*tch! XD
 
Group: Knights of Hyrule
Posts: 37
Member No.: 13
Joined: 5-June 06

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Ah, super faboo topic, Alantie. We needed something like this around, and I'm loving that you took the initiative to start it up.  Oh yeah, Zelda definitely gets her share of crap from fans. In fact, some of my first experiences with fan communities online involved running into Zelda bashers. Back then I was a bit more rabid... erm... well, aggressive, let's say, when it came to taking action (not to mention offense as a fan of hers) when I ran into flamers. So I spent tons of time examining every little bit of Zelda's character to shoot 'em all down. Ah, twelve-year-old Luna was such a helicopter fangirl. :-D Let's start at the beginning--namely, game number one, the Legend of Zelda. Even though she only got ONE line in the entire game, regardless of the fact that it was named after her, it was already obvious that Zel was meant to be portrayed as a strong character, if only in will. She was the only one who was sensible, not to mention brave enough to try and stop Ganon (or, dare I say it, "Gannon"). :-P Splitting up the Triforce of Wisdom was definitely a very smart idea, and of course Zelda was obviously working under pressure, what with the country she ruled being attacked by a satanic pig. So, yeah. That already scores her a lot of brownie points, at least in my book. ;-) So, onward to game number two, the Adventure of Link. As unlikely as it may seem, Zelda did show some visible signs of great character in this game, even though she was asleep from long before the game's intro until its ending. Let's examine her backstory. We know that she had a father and a brother. Dad dies, bro gets pissed because he doesn't inherit the Triforce. Sis knows something about it. Issues ensue. :-P Naturally, being an asshole, Zelda's brother questioned her about the Triforce and even went so far as to sic a homicidal wizard on her. She said nothing, even when he threatened to put her in an "eternal sleep." Yikes. Still, Zelda gets another boatload of brownie points for that. Although a lot of people think the ending (where Zel meets Link and goes straight in for a kiss on the lips) implies that she's a whore. Ah, the fanfolk. XD Now things kick up a notch with game number three (one of my personal favorites), a Link to the Past. While lots of people often accuse Zelda of showing a lot of weakness in this game because of, and I quote, "whining" to Link when she was imprisoned, and getting herself imprisoned in the first place. What the hell? Please. I thought she was surprisingly cool about the whole situation, and seemed to have a very rational, level-headed nature about her, even in the face of danger. She also seemed very honest and well-mannered to me, and I think ALTTP was our first real glimpse at the depth of Zelda's character--we got to see the extent of her sensibility. I mean, the girl managed to contact several (well, at least two :-P ) outlets for help without her captors batting an eyelash in her direction. Very nice.  Skipping game number four, since it has a noticeable lack of Zelda in it, we're moving right along to game number five: one of the most talked about games in history, our beloved Ocarina of Time. Being that this game basically redefined the series while still maintaining its classic feel, the princess herself was bound to play a huge part. And we got to get even further under her skin--she was portrayed as profound, yet melodramatic, well-mannered, yet still holding a faint air of charming uniqueness. Most importantly, she had an almost enigmatic humanity about her. She was, for the first time, a troublingly real character. And I loved her to pieces.  Her personality just evolved so smoothly and worked so well with the plot--she went from a bright, determined, yet still confined dreamer as a child, to a troubled enigma making the endeavor to save the world in secret, to the wise, duty-driven leader we know and love. On the surface, she was difficult to read, which left her susceptible to fan-made interpretations of what she was truly like as a person. But if you take the time to look more closely at her as a character, it's not hard to see what a great character she really is. Just as one example... not only did she single-handedly dodge a crazy, headhunting warlord for seven years, she remained totally and completely devoted to Link. She still believed he was going to come back for Hyrule and for her. Perhaps she holds some unrealistic ideals in that respect, but it was that faith in him she had written all over her character that originally drew me to the Link/Zelda pairing. I think her character remained basically the same as it was in OOT throughout the rest of the games, but depending on which game we're talking about, different stages of her character are portrayed. For example, games like the Minish Cap are more reflective of her childhood persona, while games like Majora's Mask (although her appearance was short-lived) portray her with the maturity she had as an adult. The Wind Waker, however, completely steered Zellie off her usual course, and I would go into my fangirlism about Tetra and her kick-ass-ness, but that's another story for another time. ;-) As for the cartoons... I don't know about you guys, but I really don't take those into account as much as the games. I insist--that dude in the green outfit trying to get action from everybody is NOT my Link. [/RANT] EDIT: BTW, great points on everybody's part. :-D As for Ilia.... I'm going to wait until I get TP to make my judgments about her. That, or I'm just lazy. XD
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| Alantie |
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Freeze Time
  
Group: Sage
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Joined: 15-May 06

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Bravo Luna!! *claps enthusiastically* I agree with Crazygurl and dub thee Luna, official Advocate of Defence for the Princess of Hyrule!  I think your rabid fan days definately paid off, for you have given possibly the best defence of Zelda I have ever lucked upon reading! You covered things so well, don't even know if there's anything left to say! | QUOTE | | Ah, super faboo topic, Alantie. We needed something like this around, and I'm loving that you took the initiative to start it up. |
Lol, I figured we needed one, since I keep running into Zelda bashers wherever I go  I totally agree, WW portrayal of Zelda as Tetra was possibly one of the best things ever done for her character! She completely kicked booty, and it gives peple no right to say Zelda isn't brave or strong. I mean, Tetra comes back to help Link against Ganon before Valoo burns the hideout, not to mention that she helped lure the giant bird off before hand! I also was pleased that she gets to help Link in the final battle with the light arrows  And judging from some of the TP fanart, it appears Zellie gets a sword? Which means we might get to see her fight! Coolness! Though, truth be told, I prefer her fighting with magic, such as she does in SSBM. Once again, loving your rant Luna!
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