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chibizelda - December 19, 2008 05:31 PM (GMT)
First of all, I am a HUGE Zelink fan.
I have nothing against bisexual, trans, gay, ect., people.

Here are all the pairings I can think of-and why they are

1. make no sense

2. non-existent

3. never gonna happen

People Paired up with Link

First up we have Midna, the Twilight Princess
Appearances: Twilight Princess
Link meets her in the beginning of the game, and Midna starts of a jerk, but after Zelda sacrifices her life to save Midna, she goes through a personalithy change, and players can begin to see that Midna feels something for Link, and he returns his feelings-but not to such an extent. In one scene, she caresses him, and in another, before you enter the castle, Midna breaks the sheild and then Link castches her. But at the end, she leaves. So, regadless od whether they liked each other or not, she left.


Next we have the ugly farm girl, Ilia:
Appearances: Twilight Princess
I think there is nothing attarctive about her. Her personaliy stinks, and it's a one-sides relationsip. She obviously likes Link, and he sees her as a friend, nothing more. She was not made to be a main character, but a side character-and s useles one at that. The moment the players see when it's Link, Ilia, and Epona-that's ILIA'S thought. Her purpose is insignificant, and at the end of the game, you can see that Link LEAVES ORDON. There is no romance/love between them. And any feeling that Link had (which, there were none) had diminished after he met Midna and Zelda.


Now we have Saria, the forest girl:
Appearances: Ocarnia of Time
I personally think this one is cute between a young Link and Saria. Saria is Link's best friend in te Kokiri Forest as everyone regards him as an ousider. She is a sweet-tempered girl who is close to nature and later on in the game when Link is an adult, Mido says, "She says she still likes..." or along those lines.


Now we have Ruto, the Zora Princess:
Appearances: Ocarnia of Time
Yeah...she says she's engaged to Link, but it wouldn't/can't/doesn't make any sense. That's all there is to say, really.


Next we have Malon, the ranch girl:
Appearances: Ocarnia of Time, Minsish Cap, Four Swords
Malon is a pretty ranch girl who is the daughter of Talon. She cares about Epona in OoT, however, there is no romance between the two. Although it says Malon awaits a knight in shining aromor-that person in NOT Link.


Tetra
Appearances: Wind Waker, Phantom Hourglass
There is obviously a romance between the two. Tetra is Zelda.


Dark Link/any other Link
Appearances: Ocarnia of Time, Twilight Princess (a few others)
If you are twisted enough to make Link love a man, then that's gross. A Dark Link is Link's SHADOW! Link might as well be in love with himself.


Linebeck
Appearances: Phantom Hourglass
You would have to be VERY gross and VERY twisted to do this. It's gross.


Brawl characters: Ike, Marth, Roy, Pit ect.,
Get a life people! This stuff is gross-and it doesn't even make sense!
LINK IS NOT GAY!


People paired up with Zelda:

Shad
Appearance: Twilight Princess
Probably even gayer than Link/Ilia, Zelda knows nothing about Shad. I don;t hink he's even that good looking. It's just dumb, and it is NOT possible.


Marth:
Appearances: Fire Emblem, Melee, Brawl
The prince of Altea, he is sometimes with Zelda in Brawl. I do not get it, but it's ok.


Midna
Ok, you people REALLY are wrecking a good video game series. ZELDA AND MIDNA ARE NOT LES!

Ilia
She's too gay-but I mean Ilia is NOT LES either!!


Ike
Appearances: Fire Emblem, Brawl
Eh. I don't really inderstand...


Roy
Appearances: Fire Emblem, Melee
Again, I don't get it.


THE ONE TRUE PAIRING!!

Link x Zelda, Zelink :zelink:

In Zelda: A Link to the Past
Near the end, the curtain falls, obviously Zelda is kissing Link, as she moves closer.

A Link to the Past: "I appriciate you coming to rescue me. As I thought, you are the legendary hero. I have felt this from the first time we met..." says Zelda when Link rescues her.

Ocarnia of Time:

-The first time the player sees Zelda is when she is when Link is dreaming, and she is riding off on her white horse with Impa.
-The player meets Zelda once they beat the Deku Tree temple. She is happy to see Link and confides in him abouther dreams, and about her prophesides.
-The third time is when the utsecne from the beginning plays again, and once Link grabs teh Ocarnia, she says in a memory, "I waited for you as long as I could, but I couldn't..." and with that, she leaves.
-The other times are when Zelda disgiuses herself as Sheik and is with him.
-Once Link frees Ruto, she says, "You're looking for Zelda! Ha! I knew it. You can't hide anything from me."
-Link punds on the crystal when Sheik reveils her/himself to be Zelda and ganon captures her.
-Once Link defeats Ganondrof, he puts a protective arm around her and smiles for teh first time in teh game when he is near her.
-They share a romantic scene when Ganon is locked away.
-Th final scene shows Link returning back to Zelda.

Majora's Mask:
"Even though it was a short time, i feel like i've known you forever. I'll never forget the days we spent together in Hyrule...and I believe in my heart that a day will come when I shall meet you again..." quote Zelda in a flashback.


Oracle of Ages/Seasons:
Once both games are Link, Zelda kisses Link on the cheek and hearts swoon above his head.


Wind Waker:
When Link discovers that Ganon has kidnapped Zelda (again) one of the things Ganon says is; "I have kidnapped your precious Zelda." Cute, isn't it?
If you talk to Beedle about the time when Link gets the Master Sword he mentions Tetra (Zelda in disguise) and asks Link if he knows her. Pay close attention to his next sentences. Link actually blushes, only by hearing Zelda's name!
Also-the Great Fairy whi gives you the Ice and Fire arroes says, "I'll show you myself once you have encounterd someone special to you."

Twilight Princess:
However there are moments in this game-you just have to look for them.

In Twilight Princess, during the cutscene before you fight Ganondorf on his horse, Link and Zelda just stare at each other for a while after she summons the Light Arrows ^_^ And she helps you fight Ganondorf, too!
And at the end of the game, Midna breaks the mirror and seals herself off from Hyrule, so Link and Zelda can be together! ^_^
When you first meet Zelda, Midna says to Zelda, "Is this the one you were looking for?"
When you first meet Zelda, Link(in wolf form) growls at Zelda, not knowing who she is at first. However, when he looks into her eyes, he stops growling and walks to her, while Midna swoons sarcastically.
When Zelda asks for the Light Arrows, she asks Link to "lend her the last of his power", Link holds out his hand, and Zelda takes it.
Zelda is revived after you fight her, and Link smiles.
Midna wheneber she makes a remark about Zelda, she refere's her as Link's Zelda.
Zelda's spirit was with Midna when she healed her, which meant that she WAS with Link.


TV Show:
Very poor animation-but a 100% Zelink.

Mangas for OoT and the other Zelda manga:
Ze;da kisses Link on the cheek and holds his hand and it is obvious thta Linkis looking for her.


Well, that's that. Some of the stuff abouve was found at www.northcastle.co.uk :zelink: FOREVER!

What do you think?

MalonsLover - December 19, 2008 07:22 PM (GMT)
Even though I'm a Malinker I agree with you that Link did not seem romantically interested in Malon. Then again Link didn't seem romantically interested in Zelda either outside of child like emotional attachment. How many heterosexual guys do you know that would pass up being with a beautiful princess to become a child again?? The tender and sweet Zelink moments in OOT and MM seemed to mean a lot more to Zelda than they did to Link IMO. But OOT/MM Link never showed ADULT romantic interest to anyone other than wanting to do the right thing and help them anyway, Zelda included. But I think OOT Zelda seems more romantically interested in Link than TP Zelda is interested in her Link for sure. I agree with you on Zelink in AOL, ALTTP, and WW though.

EDIT: IMO the Link is gay theories are just jokes in making fun of OOT & TP Link's non masculine shy and gentle personality.

chibizelda - December 19, 2008 08:15 PM (GMT)
Well, yeah...I guess. But still, I hate gay Link & Zelda. It's so... >_< gross. Eh, but this is only my opinion.

Saami - December 19, 2008 08:23 PM (GMT)
I was chatting with a friend of mine on MSN and she brought up something that really got me thinking. The child timeline seems to cater toward the Link/Malon (Or what have you) while the adult timeline seems more geared toward Link/Zelda. I dunno. It seems kind of plausible and it would seem like the devs are trying to keep all of their fans happy.

MalonsLover - December 20, 2008 01:06 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (chibizelda @ Dec 19 2008, 08:15 PM)
Well, yeah...I guess. But still, I hate gay Link & Zelda. It's so... >_< gross. Eh, but this is only my opinion.

Zelda being gay is new to me. But for the gay Link theories I have read: OOT-Mainly LinkxGanon & LinkxDark Link but there is also Rararu molesting Link during those 7 years in limbo. TP-Shad and Fado. I just barely heard of this LinkxLinebeck. IMO they are just jokes and should not be taken seriously. Probably the worse I have read is fanfic theories on both Saria and Zelda over comforting/nurturing and molesting child Link in having a more unique bond to keep him more emotionally attached to either one of them.

chibizelda - December 20, 2008 04:24 PM (GMT)
Then you should check out some of the artwork on deviantArt-on Photobucket, anywhere. you'll find plenty of yaoi/yuri (gay, lez) It's disgusting.

MalonsLover - December 20, 2008 04:54 PM (GMT)
I think I've been to that website before. Since I'm a guy, disgusting makes me curious and I've seen enough that would make even me go :blehh: BLEEEHHH!!

chibizelda - December 20, 2008 05:26 PM (GMT)
I'm a girl who hates that stuff. It's women/men, not men/men or women/women. :blehh: I have my own deviantart account-and there is none of that sickening trash. I cannot avoid it, and bashing it does no good. *sigh* It's quite sad how people wreck good video games. You'll find Midna x Zelda...ugh...my eyes get sore...and Zelda x Ilia or Zelia PUKE! I hate Ilia, and Zelda is my fav character..so it's really quite gross. I'm quite sure Mimyato would be disappointed to see all this trash of yaoi and yuri. I know I would be.

Saami - December 20, 2008 06:30 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (chibizelda @ Dec 20 2008, 12:26 PM)
I'm a girl who hates that stuff. It's women/men, not men/men or women/women. :blehh: I have my own deviantart account-and there is none of that sickening trash. I cannot avoid it, and bashing it does no good. *sigh* It's quite sad how people wreck good video games. You'll find Midna x Zelda...ugh...my eyes get sore...and Zelda x Ilia or Zelia PUKE! I hate Ilia, and Zelda is my fav character..so it's really quite gross. I'm quite sure Mimyato would be disappointed to see all this trash of yaoi and yuri. I know I would be.

Ok I understand that you don't like a particular ship because it's yaoi/yuri/whatever. But people are going to ship what they like and that is their right. And you should respect that. Bashing never helps the situation. Ever.

chibizelda - December 20, 2008 07:42 PM (GMT)
I know. But I still hate it. And I KNOW Mimyato would be disappointed in that type of art. I mean, Malon/Link, Zelda/Link, ect., that makes sense. (I mean, I'm not a huge Malon fan, but she's better than Ilia :) )

MalonsLover - December 21, 2008 12:38 AM (GMT)
I'm cool with innuendos but the more hardcore X rated stuff is bad taste IMO. But to me an adult ZeldaxMidna is not nearly as bad as SariaxChild Link or Child ZeldaxChild Link. Talk about major perverted in poor sweet & innocent child Link naively allowing himself to be molested by very close friends who may be a little toooo close. But I think hands down the most bizarre that I have read is LinkxNavi without a doubt.

Saami - December 21, 2008 02:23 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (chibizelda @ Dec 20 2008, 02:42 PM)
I know. But I still hate it. And I KNOW Mimyato would be disappointed in that type of art. I mean, Malon/Link, Zelda/Link, ect., that makes sense. (I mean, I'm not a huge Malon fan, but she's better than Ilia :) )

And it's your right to dislike it. But let people enjoy what they enjoy. There's enough ship hate in this fandom as it is. Don't fan the flames. 'Sides bashing's against the rules here.

chibizelda - December 21, 2008 03:03 AM (GMT)
I was simply stating my opinions. That is all. I am in no mood for an arguement-I mean, yes...I love Zelink and Saria/Link, Midna/Link is ok, and Malink is tolerable...I guess. I cannot stand, however, Ilia/Link, Shad/Zelda or any gay lez pairings. It's...not the was it was intended...

MalonsLover - December 21, 2008 06:24 AM (GMT)
I'm cool with your opinion chibizelda. Being a Malinker I'm not too crazy about the weird beastiality involving cows and horses in association with some extreme LinkxMalon theories. My theoretical version of LinkxMalon is just PG-13 with Link settling into a normal/quaint husband/wife relationship raising a family in the countryside. As for the gay/lez and child Link getting molested theories to each his/her own I say. With Zelink it seems you have a range of G-rated sweet and tender innocence to the more R-rated Link being groomed by Zelda to become an obedient sex slave by adulthood theories. Personally, I feel the same way in being uncomfortable with these weird pairings/theories but I'm not insecure about my own sexuality anyway so I accept that some fans just have an overcreative mind.

KokirianClockwork - December 22, 2008 03:25 AM (GMT)
Not overcreative, they just have weird fantasms.
Most the time, they just pick up two hot characters and make them do the nasty.
Yes, some consider Linebeck hot.
Some consider overly-submissive X overly-dominant hot.
It makes me sick.
I've noticed when finding Dark Link pairings (though I never search for anything Dark Link related o_0) is that the fangirls often picture themselves as Dark Link.
Why else would the evil, I-can-only-laugh-and-stab-until-I'm-beating-by-a-HAMMER shadow version of Link suddenly act like a sugar-high fangirl? (In a lot of cases, when he's not an evil molester, he's like that. -_- )

Iiii hate Dark Link.


Pfft, puppy Zelink love for the win!
The child versions of Link and Zelda are cute together, but as young, innocent love.
I mean, seriously,
COOOOTIIIIIES.
In OoT/MM, Link is confused (I was confused too after changing from child to adult, then adult to child. In the end, what in the dodongo is he?), but I don't believe he truly knows what romance involves. I mean emotionally. Of course he knows what's a wedding.
In WW, he also knows what it is, and he's so cute when coupled with Tetra, but he's still a child, so no big steps towards romance here either.


As for the adult versions in fanarts/fics, they are so cute even when they hug and kiss, but when they do more... :blehh:

If I was in Peter Pan, I'll still have my fairy. :ph43r:




*Remembers the different pairings*




Poor, poor Link.

chibizelda - December 22, 2008 05:22 PM (GMT)
To Malonslover: Yes, Malon/Link-it could happen. I mean-IF Link and Zelda just drifted apart, I wouldn't be suprised if Link settled down with her. (Of course, wilh Ilia, they would just make a gross couple :blehh:) But Malon is prettier and kinder-and she has a personalithy in comaprison to ILia. Although I used to hate it-I've grown to accept the NORMAL pairings with Link. I mean, Zelink is my fav, then Saria/child Link, Midna/Link and Malon/Link. The rest I don't like. I mean-you'll even find some of Peach/Link :blehh: I like Peach, but I DO NOT like Peach/Link at all. <_<

To: KokirianClockwork:
I agree. When Adult Link/Zelda from OoT/TP are acting all "I love you" with hugs and kisses-that's the type of stuff I draw. I DO NOT draw sexual things, as that is gross. If you wanna check it out, go to http://chessyzelda.deviantart.com/ <- that's my account. But as you said for Dark Link/Link I don't search that stuff either. I just type in "Link" and you get this gross stiff with Link/Dark Link-sometimes sexually involved. :blehh: But yes, I hate Dark Link too. :blehh: People are just twisted, taht's all.

MalonsLover - December 22, 2008 05:48 PM (GMT)
With LinkxDark Link the main theory I have read is that Link gets possesed by Dark Link and since Dark Link is just really Link anyway its as if Link is in love with himself. I don't want to be too R-rated but to put it in simplest terms Link is awakened to his dark manly urges by Dark Link and likes to touch himself.:giggle:

I recall you mentioned ShadxZelda and though I have heard of it I have never read an essay explanation on how the theory works. I assume that since Shad is more of a conversational intellect he would have a lot more in common with the wise and all knowing Zelda than a rather soft spoken teenage country boy like Link. Normally I have read Shad being paired up with Ashi as an opposites attract romance and with Link as the off the wall gay romance.

But in OOT I like Link with Zelda, Malon, and even Nabooru. I think LinkxRuto is just gross and LinkxSaria involving pedophilia and child molesting is just plain sick. :blehh: But Child LinkxSaria as innocent close friends is cool. In TP I like Link with Zelda, Midna, Hena, or Ashi. Though I can't stand LinkxIllia as you do, it would not be that unusual if Link eventually settled down with her. Also, most Illia fans like to use the beauty is on the inside arguement, but personally I didn't see much inner beauty with Illia did you?? :huh: I actually prefer LinkxTelma over LinkxIllia.

chibizelda - December 23, 2008 12:17 AM (GMT)
I know. I can't see her "beauty" pr "cuteness" at all. And I'm agirl- and a lot of my guy friends think she's ugly!

MalonsLover - December 23, 2008 12:25 AM (GMT)
Yeah...I'm in general agreement with your friends as well.

KokirianClockwork - December 23, 2008 05:57 AM (GMT)
*Thinks about something to say defending Ilia*
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She's not evil nor downright ugly. :D

No matter. I don't appreciate Link X Ilia. <_<

Banality isn't my cup of tea. >_>

She doesn't have that spark that makes even Thelma beautiful even with her slightly overweight looks.

On Zelda X Shad, I remember a fanart about it. Beautiful fanart, but not the greatest idea I've seen so far.
(Writting this, my Link poster fell off. I guess he doesn't appreciate the idea either XD)
The illustrator didn't seem to be a fan of the princess either, saying she doesn't have enough personality for Link. :/
I couldn't help but to comment that a lot of people could argue that Link himself is pretty much personality-less too. XP *Glomps imaginary Link plushie* I know he's colorful inside. D:

chibizelda:
So you've read Fortitude! Somehow, I like that fanfic too even though I usually stay away from anything that doesn't have enough monster killing. XD
Can't see all your work since DA seems to be hating me with a passion these last few days, but I'll go back when I can. :)
This is mine:
http://kamolu-mouser.deviantart.com/
I have a hard time looking at the stuff I do, but at least it keeps pushing me to try and do better the following times.

MalonsLover - December 23, 2008 05:02 PM (GMT)
Well..both of you are way better artists than me thats for sure. I'm more creative in writing than art but I like to look at art. If I could draw I would like to draw stuff like Frank Frazetta or John Howe.

Anyway..I know I'm hard on Illia but to me Link choosing her would mean he retired from the Hero business to return to being a goatherder in an outside province away from Hyrule. Its different to the way I see the LinkxMalon situation since Lon Lon ranch is WITHIN Hyrule and in relative equal proximity to Castle/Town, Kakariko Village, and the provinces of the Gorons, Zoras, Gerudos ect ect. OOT/MM Link would more likely be enabled to still work closely with Zelda and help her with protecting and providing the needs of the common people/diverse races of Hyrule and continue the life of the hero riding around with Epona in patrolling Hyrule and maintaining the frontier defenses.

I don't see how TP Link can do this in a LinkxIllia since Ordon is OUTSIDE of Hyrule and not WITHIN Hyrule as Lon Lon ranch is. I prefer TP Link to settle down with a random Hyrule Town maiden than return to Ordon to resume being a full time goatherder again but thats just me. For most Illia fans, Link continuing to be a goatherder is the whole point.

chibizelda - December 23, 2008 07:16 PM (GMT)
To Malonslover: Yes indeed. I agree. Ilia...is just nasty! I mean, after such an excitung adventture in TP, would he REALLY want to continue ranching and be with Ilia? No. I don't think so. Thta's why I think Zelda/Link in TP makes sense.
In OoT, I can see that Zelda/Link would make sense too. But then again, so does Malon/Link. Malon is about the most ordinary character there is. No powers. No status, really. Just a typical, pretty ranch girl. But I agree. Ilia is just so ugly. Zelda was so pretty in TP :D and Malon was pretty awesome, too.

To KokirianClockwork: I didn;t know that, but I did fav some of your work! Very nice :thumbs: !

Saami - December 23, 2008 07:29 PM (GMT)
I'm curious. Do you realize how bad you make your side of the fandom look? Behaving like you do? I mean really. It's okay not to like Ilia. But acting like this doesn't help your case any.

chibizelda - December 23, 2008 08:11 PM (GMT)
Ok buddy. I get it. I don't really care what you think of me. :thumbs: It's called "freedom of speech". So go ahead! Say what you like. I just won't care or respond!
Have a nice day!

Saami - December 23, 2008 08:24 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (chibizelda @ Dec 23 2008, 03:11 PM)
Ok buddy. I get it. I don't really care what you think of me. :thumbs: It's called "freedom of speech". So go ahead! Say what you like. I just won't care or respond!
Have a nice day!

All I asked was a simple question. There really was no need to get snotty. But then again judging from the age you have listed on your DA profile, I'm not entirely surprised.

chibizelda - December 23, 2008 08:32 PM (GMT)
Ok. That's your opinion on ME. I don't care what you think-but people like. you...mmm...I don't get along with them so much. Sorry. I'm 14-almost 15. I'm not snotty. So...aurevoir!

Saami - December 23, 2008 08:43 PM (GMT)
Oh honey, I am a very friendly person. Just about anyone here will tell you that. I do not have an issue with you. I was only curious. Disliking Ilia, and stating such is one thing. But you know, half the stuff you were saying constitutes bashing, which I'm pretty sure is against the rules here. And I was kind of hoping you'd have more of a reason than "Ilia is nasty". But ah, I suppose that was pretty silly of me. I'll go back to being pessimistic. That rarely lets me down.

chibizelda - December 23, 2008 08:49 PM (GMT)
I just hate her, find her the most useless piece of animation that Nintendo ever made. I mean, yes, TP was a good game. Did I like some of the characrers? Heck, no! You're 21 (I saw it on the sheik forum thing) 7 years older. I don't really care if people hate me, think I'm snooty or whatever.

Saami - December 23, 2008 08:59 PM (GMT)
As is your right, like I've said before. But it's unnecessary to harp on about it and bash her, especially if there are fans of her around here. You run the risk of offending someone. And I'm not entirely sure what my age has to do with anything. But okay.

MalonsLover - December 23, 2008 11:45 PM (GMT)
To Chibizelda: Personally I have no problem with you bashing Illia as I feel the same way as you do. But I agree with Saami that rules are rules. To me these are just video game characters not real people but at the same time hurting peoples feelings is not cool. Then again I have no problem when some Zelinkers bash Malon and say stuff that she is too immature for Link and that she is bossy, whiny, and will somehow annoy Link because she is mentally incapable of doing anything for herself. Freedom of speech and all that jazz but normally Malon bashing goes unchecked IMO. But Saami is usually right about these things.

To Saami: As usual I have a mental disorder in posting what I feel instead of thinking before I post so I apologize on my part with the lets dog pile Illia discussion between me and chibizelda. I consider you a woman of class and the last thing I want to do is make you mad at me. :)

KokirianClockwork - December 24, 2008 04:28 AM (GMT)
I hope whatever I said didn't sound like bashing, because I don't hate Ilia. *Thinks* I don't hate anyone in the Zelda universe. Except maybe Dark Link, and it's really because of the fanbase itself. -.-
Sincerely, he was hella fun to fight!

chibizelda: Believe me, avoid using ''freedom of speech'' as an excuse, whatever happens. ;)
Don't take it personally. So what you said can offend some people here. Ok. Just keep that in mind the next time you need to say you hate Ilia. Keep in mind you should avoid provocation.



I've seen some people like the Link X Navi pairing. Weird, WEIRD idea, but I do admit that, unlike a lot of fans out there say, Link does NOT dislike Navi. She was with him all the time during those hardships, helping him. Sure she was annoying to the player, and I can't hlp but to think Link might have snapped every now and then for different reasons but really, she was meant to get on OUR nerves, not his. Plot-wise, her telling him ''what would Saria think?'' would've sufficed once, or even twice if he was too hurt to return to the Kokiri Village. But gameplay-wise, Navi was programmed not to stop until WE did what she wanted us to do. XD Because she can't hear us say ''yeah, after this fishing trip why not.''
Anyhow. True love? No way, forget it. Eeew.
But they do care. <3
*Likes Navi even with all the traumatising ''HEY LISTEN''s*

MalonsLover - December 24, 2008 06:53 PM (GMT)
To me LinkxNavi is one of purity & innocence and Link felt nothing more than child like emotional attachment to her. I agree with you that Navi was meant to annoy us more than Link was to be annoyed by her for sure. To me Navi was the close friend who helped little Link to cope with his loneliness in being an emotionally introverted cherub like kokiri social outcast and was not meant to be a romantic interest IMO. I lump the LinkxNavi romance with the other weird and bizarre child Link getting molested theories involving Rararu, Saria, and Child Zelda.

chibizelda - December 27, 2008 02:28 AM (GMT)
Eh. I accept most-but NOT ilia/Link. It's one of total wierdness and ugliness (on ILIa's part) She is not pretty. She is not charming or talented. She has gross hair. And I am not bashing! I mean, somone put something up saying they hate Midna,a nd another one for Ilia. I mean, seriously...
BuT I like Navi and Link. It's cute :3

MalonsLover - December 27, 2008 05:12 AM (GMT)
Yes...in a cute & innocent way LinkxNavi is acceptable. But I still don't think they should be romantically involved. The notion of Navi touching little or big Link in sensual special places is a tad disturbing IMO.:blehh: Speaking of Illia she seemed to have an unusual obsession for Epona don't you think? Though I have read a couple of weird LinkxEpona fanfic theories awhile back, I think IlliaxEpona would be a better match IMO.:giggle:

Saami - December 27, 2008 05:18 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (chibizelda @ Dec 26 2008, 09:28 PM)
Eh. I accept most-but NOT ilia/Link. It's one of total wierdness and ugliness (on ILIa's part) She is not pretty. She is not charming or talented. She has gross hair. And I am not bashing! I mean, somone put something up saying they hate Midna,a nd another one for Ilia. I mean, seriously...
BuT I like Navi and Link. It's cute :3

Most of that kind of didn't make any sense. But I digress.

The thread entitled "I hate Midna" had nothing to do with hating Midna as a character. It discussed disliking the Midna/Link ship because it seemed to have more backing than ZeLink in TP. Even the thread discussing Ilia is done in a respectful manner. Even though the general gist of the thread doesn't necessarily put Ilia in a positive light. You can talk negatively about a character and still maintain a sense of dignity. I find it rather difficult to respect your opinion when you so obviously have very little respect for other people's opinions. I was once indifferent to Ilia and now I'm starting to like her. All thanks to you. Kudos.

Edit: Oh! And! No one is trying to force you to accept Link/Ilia. All I am asking is that you stop bashing Ilia's character. You don't like her. We get it. It's gotten to the point where it's getting excessive and annoying.

KokirianClockwork - December 27, 2008 08:32 PM (GMT)
Saying Ilia has no talent is a lie. She successfully crafted a thingamajig for Link to call up Epona anytime. Her hair IS weird and doesn't go well with her plain looks, but that doesn't make downright ugly in my opinion.

Link needs a beautiful woman who has enough character and knowledge for him, though. I believe he'll always find a way to get in trouble even after settling down for a ''normal'' (boring) life, with his habit of helping everyone he sees. His girl shouldn't be the type to watch him struggle and pray for his safety, (meaning no Ilia, please). She should be able to help him, or at least give him good helpful advice.


Twilight Mistress - December 28, 2008 02:20 AM (GMT)
Malon's Lover, please stop bringing intimacy into the conversation. This is not the time nor the place for it. You've been warned before. There are younger people on this forum that are under 18, so you should try to respect that. There's more to life than just that, anyway.

MalonsLover - December 28, 2008 07:17 PM (GMT)
I don't think I'm saying anything new that a 14 year old with freshmen health/sex education would already know. Plus what does me stating my disgust with fanfic/theories of child Link getting molested have to do with intimacy?? :huh: As far as intimacy itself is concerned if you can't be intimate with your potential romantic lover then you are only a close friend period. I have never heard of a romance/marriage realistically working out based on celebacy. Usually it results in divorce if anything.

Though I respect your unique view of a LinkxZelda romance with Link being the always gentle & obedient eternal virgin, most Zelinkers seem to want Link and Zelda to be married and to share a bed together if you ask me. IMO there is nothing wrong with discussing intimacy. Its not like I want to SERIOUSLY discuss pornography or anything with an inappropriate nature. And its pretty obvious that I'm not remotely serious about IlliaxEpona in that I was joking about her being overprotective with Epona. Lighten up a little TM. :)

KokirianClockwork - December 29, 2008 06:22 AM (GMT)
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The notion of Navi touching little or big Link in sensual special places is a tad disturbing IMO


I think that's what she meant, in a ''you don't need to get into details'' way.

I think, I might be wrong.

It did make me raise an eyebrow, then again *backs off* that's as far as I'll go with my opinion here.


If for some reason Link end his life in Termina, he would look cute with Romani. Playing around shooting things as kids, then developping a nice bond as adults. She had a good amount of bravery that made her try to fight off the alien invaders, guarding the cows while Link did his best to keep the ETs away on his side.
Yup, I like Romani. That crazy little girl. :)
But I am with those who believe Link didn't stay in Termina (stuck or not).

As a Zelinker I am a bit weird. I am convinced Link and Zelda have a strong bond that has nothing to do with the sibling theory. A strong bond that makes them awesome as a duo. I can imagine them being romantic. But I somehow don't mind if they never get together.
I CAN read happy love stories, but I CAN'T write them, thus meaning I have a hard time imagining them. ;)
Some other girls can look good with him (like Malon or Romani), but what some non-ZeLink fanfics lack is his bond with Zelda no matter what. Don't need to get kissy and add in a love triangle, but don't need to erase Zelda either. Even if she's stuck in Hyrule while Link lives somewhere far away, she'll still be in his memories.
She's not a passive princess. Not as toboyish as some think (she still has that feminine side that doesn't let her run around poking people for a fight) but she's even less a helpless character (Sheik, for crying out loud.)
Roar at some people.
Forgive the princess if she couldn't fight off a darned ring of fire. I'm guessing Sheik and even Link aren't fire-proof either. And I better rant another day.



I'm really happy I haven't found a Link X Zant yet. I hope it stays that way.
But Link kissing Midna in IMP form was weird. *Stares awkwardly at Japanese fansites*

Twilight Mistress - December 29, 2008 03:20 PM (GMT)
Malon's Lover, that should not be your judgement. You do not know what others need, and it's not proper to teach them that it's the primary aspect in a relationship, anyway. There are people that are even younger than 14, so knock it off. You don't need to constantly continue bringing it into the conversation because you think it makes you look older and wiser; it just makes you look immature because you don't seem to value the emotional end of it. Anyway, please don't argue. Just keep those opinions to yourself being that there are really young people on here who are only 10/11 years old. Should you choose to ignore this request, I'll get one of the Mod's on your case because I'm really sick of the topic of intimacy.

P.S If you've noticed, I haven't even discussed the relationship with Zelink in my recent posts, Malons Lover. I'm just sick and tired that you do not value women the way you should, that you do not value love the way you should. There's so much more to a relationship than what you're talking about. You're talking about lust, not love. Stop being lead by your horomones.




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