So, we have a topic here called Defending the Princess. I'm thinking we need one called Defending the Hero.

This is a tricky topic. The creators still insist his lack of a voice is due to him essentially being us, a mere reflection of the player. He doesn't speak because it's up to us how he feels, in theory.
But this has definately been compromised in recent times by the ability to see his expressions, OoT, MM, TP and most of all the expressive Link from WW clearly have emotions and feelings of their own. One could easily thing the creators are attempting to anticipate our emotions with his reactions, I mean, who didn't sympathize with WW Link when Tetra rude to him? He looked annoyed for a reason.
But you could also say they failed to anticipate our feelings with someone like Ilia, for instance. I seldom come across people who truly like her, and feel the same as Link showed.

Anyways, so Link's a blank slate. But he still shows notable reactions. Defending him:

Statement 1: Link is thick-headed, or oblivious.

This is pervasive and everywhere. But how to defend? Again pointing out that Link is the player is something people miss. He should be only as perceptive as the player is. On his own you can clearly see him react: see the scene with Ruto offering her "eternal love" and his instant shock. If he was oblivious as a child, it's only because small boys typically aren't thinking about romance the way girls do.
TP Link many times he shows his perception. Take the way Telma flirts with him. He looks sheepish at one point...obviously understanding her intention.

To use the argument ( especially in romance debates ) Link is thick-headed so only the bold will win his attentions is flawed IMO. It underestimates his abilities. MM as a game would have been useless if Link had had as bad an emotional receptiveness as some claim. I've always thought part of his value was his ability to empathize with others, caring about them and making him the Hero he is.

Statement 2: Link is dumb.

This is different than the first one, because it doubts his intelligence. Link is not supposed to be as smart as Zelda, that's her role.
He is smart enough to figure out both fighting strategy and puzzles.

So, thoughts?

Believe it or not I agree with a lot of what you say. WW Link seems more with the personality, while TP Link is soft spokenly shy he seems to be responsive when females flirt or interract with him. OOT Link is probably the Link most associated with being oblivious. I'm aware of his shocked reaction with Ruto but it only indicated he was uncomfortable with the concept of mature romantic love. Remember there was never any dialogue that said "YOU DO UNDERSTAND THIS" And OOT Link as an adult obviously did not. Anyway..there is a big difference between being simple minded and being plain stupid. Link is definitely the former IMO.

Adult Link in Oot understood the implications of romance perfectly, which he was unable to pick up on when he was a child. It wasn't that he was uncomfortable by Ruto's confrontation, it was that he was surprised, finally understanding the actions behind her giving the stone to him as a child. For him, Ruto's "unconditional love" was completely uncalled for. Thus, the only reason why he would feel uncomfortable is because he doesn't return her feelings; let's face it... you're not going to feel comfortable when someone hits on you and you don't feel the same way towards them.

Thats true. I would feel uncomfortable with a fish woman as well. :D Its just OOT Link is never accused of being a ladies man thats all. Lets face it. Most fangirls I know would prefer an assertively well spoken Legolas type rather than an over obedient nice guy like OOT Link thats for sure. Thats why I can't picture Zelda ever having ANY romantic chemistry with a too sweet and gentle type like Link.

You're character bashing again. First off, how would you know what girls want unless you are one? As far as I'm concerned, a guy should be strong but not over-bearing and controlling; strong as in the fact that he is able to work through troubled times with his partner. He would have to respect women without reverting to stereotypical gender roles and would have to respect women's independance. He would also have to be sensitive in the sense that he cares about how others feel and shows that he is not afraid to reveal how he feels himself. Link is one that best fits this description, so why wouldn't Zelda be interested in him? He'd be an excellent companion for her as she would be for him. If you ask me, a guy who isn't able to express any type of emotion is not one that proves he's strong; if anything, the guy is a coward for hiding behind an empty shell. And, if Link was as "obedient" as you claim him to be, then he would've listened to Zelda and would've forgotten all about his connection to her. The fact that he returned to the castle reflected that he wished to be there upon his own will. So, obviously, Link has a mind of his own.

The fact that OOT Link is an emotional introvert is the empty shell/non emotional person you are exactly describing in a way. Other than that, there is no proof Link is going to do all those other things you are saying for Zelda. He will simply just do as he is told and thats it. I can just randomly say that he would be upset with Zelda and shatter the ocarina in front of her to show he means business on all this annoying motherly comforting. I don't consider Link a coward at all. Just that he seems romantically incompatible with Zelda thats all. It was very predictable that Link went back to Zelda anyway to help her stop Ganon. It didn't prove anything in him having romantic chemistry with Zelda one bit.

Okay... Let's get this straight. Link is not the non-emotional guy that I'm talking about. Link is kind and considerate, he's caring and compassionate, and he's in tune to others' feelings as well as his own. How does that make him an introvert? Again, you're character bashing just because Link isn't the stupid macho guys in which you describe.

Btw, Link has a mind of his own and Zelda is not motherly towards him. Stop bringing in your own insecurities relating to how you feel with strong women and stick to in game evidence. Zelda is not bossy, spoiled, or controlling; she's, like Link, caring, compassionate, and selfless. She is also very wise and yields some incredible power. And there's a difference between telling someone what to do and asking someone to do something. If the person who is being asked to carry out something accepts, they do so of their own free will; they're given the CHOICE. Link is given the CHOICE to go back to the castle at the end of the game (and he does). And that's AFTER Ganondorf has been sealed away. And ever since the beginning, Link CHOSE to help Zelda on their quest to prevent Ganondorf from stealing the triforce; it's not like she dragged him to every temple to retrieve the stones for her. He did it because he wanted to.

Yes Link chooses to be a nice helpful guy but what does this have to do with being romantically compatible with Zelda?? I'm sure there are plenty more worthy gentleman suitors of the Hyrule Court vying for Zeldas hand that choose to care every bit as much as Link does.

Must I point out EVERYTHING? Link and Zelda ARE compatible with one another.

Zelda

- caring
- compassionate
- loyal
- selfless
- mature
- wise
- courageous (as shown when she takes the risk to remain in Hyrule as Sheik, knowing full well that Ganondorf is looking for her)
- adventurous
-playful
- is a tomboy
- has the same values as Link
- experianced the Oot adventure with Link
- well respected by people
- protects the people of her land

Link

-caring
-loyal
- selfless
- mature
- playful
- courageous
- adventurous
- has the same values as Zelda
- experianced the Oot adventure with Zelda, despite the fact that she was Sheik at the time (when Zelda is revealed, both recognize the fact that they endured certain things with each other, bringing them closer)
- gains respect from people
- protects the people of Hyrule

Also, you cannot determine love based on status; just because Zelda is a princess doesn't mean that Link isn't right for her. In fact, Zelda would need Link even more because of his character, because he holds the same values and characteristics that she has. A relationship that is based on status calls for disaster; unless you love the person you're with, one cannot be happy. And the same goes for Link; Link shouldn't settle for anyone that is in his status range if he is not compatible with them emotionally as well as spiritually. Love doesn't work that way. Take away all of status symbols for Link and Zelda and you have two, unique entities that are compatible in more ways than one, that connect on nearly all levels. Besides that, being compatible with someone means that you share the same VALUES, the same BELIEFS, and have similar personality traits, but still bring something new and exciting into the relationship.

Seriously? Link is smart, end of story.
He KNOWS it's better to give the illusion you're doing what you're told and finish what you would've done anyway than try to argue with females.
Take THAT, Ruto.

As for Malon:
A cute girl asks him to find her father while he's at the castle.
Is there even a reason why he should refuse?
If Link was an ass then yes, there would be a reason for him to refuse.

As for Zelda:
Seing the girl of his dreams *cough*Imeannightmares*cough* for the first time and seing the Big Green Gingerman (thanks, adamwestslapdog) that's supposed to do her harm...
He'll be an ass if he took the time to tell her ''ya know, you might be wrong. Convince me first.''

His goal was to try and defeat Ganondorf a.s.a.p.
Unfortunately his nightmare turned out to be real anyway.
Next thing he knows, he's the chosen Hero, and the first sage tells him what he should know.
Then Sheik comes, giving him hints.
If he didn't follow those hints, it would'nt have been like Link.
The way the games are made, it highly suggests Link is curious. All Links.
''Curse the onw who throws something in my circle of rocks''
So, what are we supposed to do? Throw something inside the circle of rocks.
''Yes, open that chest, tee-hee.... Trust me''
Heck, it's obvious it's a trap. Let's do it!
:yay:


Besides, OoT was more concentrated on the gameplay itself than on Link's ego.
I prefer basing my perception on the few times he reacts inside the game itself and the official artwork.
Link is introverted, but still has that impressive ''I can kill you with my stare'' look.
He can be aggressive.
When he smiles, it's with confidence.
On that picture with Young Link sitting next to Zelda, he doesn't have a sweet puppy look, he has a confident, boyish smile.

I really blame his lack of ''backbone'' on the N64 limits. Trying to work more on the gameplay and therefore using non-playable characters' backstories as excuses to give us more quests/side-quests than to tell us all ''Link's a wimp; he'll listen to anyone''.

I can't argue with Kokirian Clockwork, but I can argue with my beloved TM. Believe it or not I agree with a lot of what you said but when were Link and Zelda ever playful with one another?? :blink: :huh: If your talking about as children in OOT then Malon is more playful with Link since Lon Lon ranch is the obvious ideal place for LinkxMalon to roam free and get into fun playful mischief rather than all the rigid rules and regulations at the Castle with Zelda. Lon Lon ranch is Child Link's escape from being with Zelda babying him and keeping him in line. Thats not playful at all for Link IMO.

And what exactly are these similar beliefs and values are you talking about?? Please elaborate.

*puts on Mod hat*

MalonsLover- you're somewhat out of line, and off topic. This is a thread for DEFENDING Link, not for debating, tearing him down or bashing him. You don't have to agree with us. If you don't, simply don't post in this thread, ok?

*removes Mod hat*

I hate it when people imply that Link is dull, dimwitted, unintelligent, or some blindly obedient person who doesn't have a clue how the world works. Clearly, those people don't have an inkling of who he really is.

Link was sheltered growing up in the Kokiri Forest, that's true. But he interacted with the children and creatures there. He's not socially inept, and it really ticks me off when people try to paint him as such. He's clearly able to interact and be accepted by various different people and races of all stations and ranks. If he was the idiotic doof people try to make him out to be, I highly doubt the people would have ever trusted him. Seriously.

I see Link being simple minded but not stupid. It takes some intelligence to wield a sword & shield as well as a boomerang, bow & arrow, bombs ect. Link seems to be well accepted by the common people/diverse races of Hyrule for sure. Its just among royal society Link would likely be a social misfit IMO but Zelda would probably help him to adapt somehow and intervene on his behalf when needed in the awkward social situations of courtly life.

But I agree with you that many gamers consider Link to be a lame personality when compared to the more macho hero types from God of War, Halo, Prince of Persia and so on.

What is it with you and being macho? Macho only points towards being a coward, IMO, since you're too afraid to express any type of emotion whatsoever. Also, 9/10, those are the guys that are controlling, pig-headed, idiotic, jerks that are just full of themselves. So no, Link is not one of those guys for sure, and thank heavens for that.

Anyway, Zelda is playful towards Link. First of all, Zelda (unlike others) is not happy that she's a princess at all. She's confined and constantly wishes for the freedom that she doesn't have. Also, the gossip stone stated that she was very much of a tomboy, and that likely indicates that she is very curious and adventurous. Lastly, if you approach Zelda (before obtaining all three stones) while wearing various masks she giggles and laughs. Thus, she is the same as any other girl (except she's a tomboy, which is a bonus) and is only discriminated because of her title.

And what I meant by that they have similar values is that that have similar morals.

Similar morals?? So since Malon and Link both have a similar love for Epona then they should get married huh?? :blink: Anyway..I don't consider myself that macho. All I'm saying is that gamers who are fans of more mature rated games seem to stigmitize Link with the "nice guys finish last" label. Not many people believe Link is much of a ladies man to initiate a romance with Zelda or anyone else for that matter. Unless Zelda goes out of character and becomes a seductress LinkxZelda is never going to happen I'm afraid unless the relationship is strictly based on celebacy.

You are completely missing the point. What I mean by values is that they both care about people, they both go out of their way to help people, they both belief in peace and equality, etc. Not only that, but they have similar personality traits as I have stated before, yet they are still able to bring something new into the relationship. So, yes, there is definitely something greater than friendship between them.

Anyway, you are totally backwards; being macho is not impressive, thus it won't attract much. In fact, it repels if anything. Personally, the only way that someone would be able to get attention is if they were kind, caring, compassionate, respectful, and sensitive, without all that macho nonsense. THAT'S why Link stands out from all of the rest, because he's not a jerk who hits on anything in a skirt. He's NOT a pervert who only cares about one thing.

Btw, if Link actually was one of those stupid macho guys, he wouldn't deserve EITHER Zelda or Malon, or anyone else for that matter. Not with that type of behaviour, immaturity and disrespect.

Yes TM. I will never argue the whole caring for other people thing. Personality wise

Link = Unassertively gentle follower. Generally simple minded with average/normal intelligence.

Zelda = Very feminine but assertively self reliant leader. Unusually smart and wise.

Romance wise this is a major mismatch IMO. Did I already mention vastly different backgrounds??

Anyway watch the Beowulf movie and there you will find the EXACT anti Link macho jerk that you are referring to. :P :giggle:

..... Where are you getting this unassertive thing? And the follower thing? If Link was a follower, he would have been another of Mido's lakeys in the forest.

And Link is not simple minded. He clearly thinks of issues above and beyond his own little bubble. He's not going to sit around and think about goats while the world's crumbling into chaos. Seriously. That's not the kind of person he is. What, just because he's a warrior he's not going to have a brain?

And yes, Zelda is feminine, BUT she's also clearly very tomboyish. She has skills with weapons and fighting, and enjoys adventure just as much as Link does.

I disagree with you about it being a mismatch. They share many common traits and goals, which we've already discussed with you in other areas. And your point on different backgrounds??? So what? No one with backgrounds that are different are going to get married or fall in love? Right. You keep telling yourself that.

And once again, you're off topic. This topic is about DEFENDING LINK. NOT tearing him down, NOT arguing about how well matched he and Zelda are.

Motherly comforting royal princess with naive and innocent social outcast forest being = Good friends but no romance IMO.

Back on topic: Uhh yeah..Link fights real good but he has never proven to be a leader of anyone or anything except being the lone swordsman. So I defend Link in that he will continue this path instead of trying to pursue to be a King.

MalonsLover, knock it off. You're just being immature and thick headed right now.

Zelda is not motherly, and there is no where in the game that proves otherwise. Now, maybe you could say that Malon was "motherly" since she likes to boss people around; she even acts like the parent towards her father, IMO. You could also say that Link would react "fatherly" towards Malon, since fathers are generally seen as the ones that provide the little ones with everything that they have ever wanted, that take care of all of the troubles, etc. So you're kinda contradicting yourself here (and a guy being the provider and whatever is negative, IMO; a couple has to work together as a team and everything has to be on equal grounds).

Now, Link has proven countless times that he is a leader, otherwise he wouldn't be motivated to step up to the plate and take the initiative on his own to make things right. He wouldn't go out of his way to help others without consulting someone about it first. A leader is someone that stands up on their own, knowing that something needs to be done; after Link's awakening it wasn't as though he was told that he had to save Hyrule from the clutches of Ganondorf. He seen the damage that had been done first hand and delved right into the mess to fix it.

Btw, Zelda is not prissy, if that's what you're trying to say. Even the gossip stone said right out that she was a tomboy, indicating that she loves adventure and that she has the skills to fight. It's not like she enjoys standing around in the castle gossiping and drinking tea. I can't even picture her doing that (nor myself, because I'm very much a tomboy, too).

Oh yeah, and Link and Zelda work together as a TEAM. While Zelda keeps the Ocarina safe, Link goes off and obtains the three stones. And when they are adults, Sheik provides Link with hints (using her wisdom) and warping magic while Link awakens the rest of the sages (using his courage). It's implying that wisdom and courage go hand in hand, and really they do if you think about it. One cannot be wise without having some form of courage while one cannot be couragous without having some sort of wisdom. In other words, you have to know what you're doing before you summon enough courage to go ahead and do it, and you have to have enough courage to push away fearful thoughts and begin turning to different strategies. Thus, the triforce of wisdom and the triforce of courage really are symbolic of the relationship between Link and Zelda; the two compliment each other, which is what is supposed to happen in a close, romantic relationship.

Also, it can even be seen that the way the triforce is structured indicates something deep between Link and Zelda; both of the bottom triforces, wisdom and courage, are side by side holding up the triforce of power. This can be seen as them working together to keep Ganondorf at bay while it also indicates that they are closer then what others tend to believe.

What do you mean being a provider is negative?? Its a well established cultural norm. How is it negative that Link would be a provider/protector/comforter for Malon?? And Scene in the Sky = Zelda being VERY motherly. The proof is there whether you like it or not.

I agree with you on Link and Zelda being a team but how does that get conscrewed to mean that they have to force themselves to marry each other?? In a possible LinkxMalon there is nothing that says Link and Zelda can't still work as a team simply because they are not romantically involved. Why do I get this impression from some of you Zelinkers that Zelda would shun Link away and not support him in providing the needs of the common people/diverse races just because he might continue to live the life of a Hero instead of being tied down to the castle with her??

IMO Link and Zelda would make a far more effective team if Link chose to live at the ranch closer in being in the know on the needs of the people/races of Hyrule instead of being kept in the dark living in the castle as Zelda's boy toy.

What does it take for you to understand? The scene in the sky is romantic, not motherly; the only reason why you view it that way is because you want to debunk the romance that occured between them. Zelda wasn't being motherly; she was opening up her heart and exchanging her feelings with him. She was confiding in him and telling him that she felt that she was responsible for what had happened to him and the rest of Hyrule. How is that motherly? Because she wishes for him to be happy? Because she feels that she's giving something back to him that she feels that he was robbed of? Come on. Link would willingly do the same for her. There's a difference between doing things for each other and looking after each other. BIG difference. And yes, IMO a guy being the so call provider is negative. I sure as hell wouldn't want to be looked after (and that IS fatherly, no matter what you say. So you're being sexist by saying it's alright for a guy but it's wrong for a girl. Straight out and out sexist.)

And what I'm saying about their teamwork is that, within an interpersonal relationship, the same principles must apply. One cannot take over the other and supposedly "look after them". They have to work together as a team within the relationship, which is what both Link and Zelda do.

OK..I admit just maybe Zelda had some type of romantic feelings for Link, but it seemed it was never meant to be with Link being a sweet & innocent child in a mans body so Zelda did the right thing in giving his lost time back. The Scene in the Sky was like "AWWWW thats so sweet romantic" but it wasn't Romeo and Juliet type romantic at all.

The way I look at it, if OOT/MM Link chose to live with Zelda in the castle I'm OK with it. IMO it just means that he retired from being a Hero to choose a fangirly magical fairy tale romance with Zelda in following her around like a loyally obedient puppy dog everyday in the castle.

BTW..I admire that you don't need a man to take care of you. In a way I wish you were my GF so I wouldn't have to work 50 + hrs a week to pay the bills. :P

What part of the scene isn't romantic? There's romance running all throught that particular scene. And the fact of the matter is that Link is not a child trapped in a man's body; that's not why she sends him back in time. She sends him back because she felt that he was robbed from seven entire years of lost experiances. If anything, Link is an adult trapped in a child's body at the end of the game, so there's no reason as to why he couldn't experiance the pleasures of romance.

On the side note, Link would not be treated as Zelda's pet; she would treat him with respect and regard him as an intellegent individual as he would her, which has been shown throughout the entire game. If she thought anything less of his intelligence and capabilities, I don't think she would want to team up with him to defeat Ganondorf in the first place.

Nonetheless OOT Link seemed to have the personality of a child throughout the entire game. Link being percieved as a mentally mature man in OOT to experience these sensual pleasures you were talking about is completely non existant I'm afraid. What game did you play? Have you even played OOT before?? :huh: Name me one heterosexual male at your age that you personally know that would pass up the opportunity of being with a beautiful princess to be a child again?? Anyway I rest my case on that issue because OOT Link and Zelda never hugged or kissed in OOT in the first place. The Scene in the Sky was so
"Awww look at sweet and pure hearted Link floating away to the CT like an angelic cherub AAWWW." :( But yeah I agree with you 100% on the whole Link and Zelda teamwork aspect for sure. Its just IMO its not a mandatory rule that they have to be romantically involved for it to happen thats all.

Just because they didn't show them hug or kiss doesn't mean anything. And btw, I really resent the fact that you are throwing insults. I mean, I could turn around and ask you the same question. If you look closely enough, you'd be able to tell that Link matures a great deal by the end of the game, which is why he's able to understand things relating to love in MM; he's able to understand the dilemna that Anji and Kofu are faced with. So, you can't tell me that Link has the mental capacity of a child.

Also, what was Link supposed to do? He didn't enjoy seeing her carry so much guilt, so that's why he didn't choose to stay in the adult timeline. He wanted to ease her mind so that she wouldn't suffer anymore from inner turmoil. He does obviously want to start fresh, which is the reason why he returns to her at the end of the game (and he obivously remains in the castle and spends time with her; Zelda from MM: "I will never forget the days we spent together in Hyrule...).

I still don't see HOW on earth ''not being compatible'' with Zelda makes him ''totally compatible'' with Malon.
But unfortunately I don't see his grown self truly aware of what romance feels like. But that's also my point in the argument.
Zelda wouldn't want to have on her side a man who still has to discover his true self and his true feelings.
If anything, what Link feels is young love: an innocent love that can be experienced by children without anything sexual.
We can argue about it in real life, but in fictional stories, that's usually the best ingredient to point out that the two were meant to be together when they grow up.

It's a kid-friendly videogame, for Pete's sake, of course they won't make Link openly admit he suddenly feels like taking Zelda away and making babies. This is Nintendo, people. :P

That was my opinion, but we should stop it here. Clearly it's getting more of a cultural fight than anything else in some parts. I can live without a partner, I'm a girl, and even with a rich man, I'll still want to make my own life.
Besides, since Zelda's name was chosen in reference of Zelda Fitzgerald, a real life feminist if I recall, I doubt she'll want to let Link do all the work. And I'll doubt she'll let him do nothing either.
And I've freaking had it with the ''pet'' and ''toy'' remarks. They have no value in an argument whatsoever.

Geez, defending the hero.. I'ma try again:
His Triforce is courage. That power is only legged (sp?) to one truly worthy of being called ''courageous''.
Last time I checked, ''courage'' doesn't limit itself to defeating scary monsters. Real courage also has to do with emotions, decisions, and all that non-physical jazz.
Link is often unsure about his feelings, but once he's sure about something, he won't back up.
He WON'T suddenly become a coward when he discovers he omg feels romantic towards someone, no matter how cute it seems in a fanfic.
I also see Link as a misfit/solitary, but not as a ''nerd'' as some ''contemporary Hyrule'' fics tend to show him. He has a nice set of muscles that you just don't get while reading poems and playing RPGs. (So ok, that was a stereotype, but you get the idea.)
He's fit, he likes to move. The small carving outside his home in OoT even suggests he already had dreams of adventure (and mayhaps conquering? That's one of the things I can think about when I see a picture of dragon slaying).
He has a hard time lifting big-rooted plants at the beginning (like all Kokiri, it seems) but he has no problems with backflips. He's amazingly skilled with weapons of all sorts, to ease the player so it won't have to take half the game to learn how to use them, but we can also assume he's the type of kid who finds a stick and starts swinging it around to play. Not what TP's Colin would do, but I can see any Link, including TP Link as a kid, doing just that. (Yay, hitting stuff with sticks!!)
He can also be a brat. You can't hurt townspeople (respect) but you can use your slingshot against a castle window (I admit I've found that hilarious), you can try to kill cuccos, you can steal a man's hat and throw it in the water (you still pay...).
Yup. If they wanted to insist on Link being a guy that wouldn't want to hurt a fly, they wouldn't allow us to do that.
So ok, it's more a way to tell the player to be curious, but since the player ''is'' Link, and since Link ''is'' supposed to be exploring a big world and trying out everything he can think of... nuff said.
Also, he does seem to be able to reply to people when put him down. When at the beginning Mido forbids him to leave the village to see the Great Deku Tree, Link points out Mido doesn't have any weapons either (well, the old fashioned way, with the non-playable character repeating what Link ''said'').
He then doesn't get pass because one: he can be a brat, but he tends to avoid fights, two: Mido still had a valid point.
Ooon a last note, I've noticed today that a Gerudo woman says that horseriding is a dangerous sport. It surprised me because most of the time I hear anyone talk about horseriding, it's usually about how it -isn't a sport (and it annoys me to no end).
I then imagined that if OoT was an anime of some sort, it would've shown Link fall down a few times when he first rides Epona (for humor, obviously. Or to show how ''determined'' he is, if the anime is somewhat cheesy.)
Sure Epona gets soft when we play her song and are nice to her. Still, galoping isn't as easy as it sounds. Imagine jumping! >.<
Dangeeer, he eats it for breakfast. Somewhat a daredevil, after remembering what he was supposed to do in order to advance in the first dungeon, to state only one example.
He has a musical and physical intelligence higher than average. His emotional intelligence is still very much the one of a child, I believe. Not ''under average'', but he still needs to develop it.
With his musical intelligence and his abilities with puzzles comes mathematics. I think he'll be a good math student if we were to put him in school.
Left-handed people are also usually seen as creative and artistic.

Wo wo wait, am I doing it right, or am I making an ''epic fail'' out of myself?

I'm not asking anymore. MalonsLover, your warning level is going up a notch. Stay on topic, and STOP arguing about Zelink in every thread. If you want to debate, go to a general Zelda forum.

Now, let's get back to the original topic, defending Link, ok?

Edit: No, you don't fail, KokirianClockwork!! I agree with a lot of what you said. I'm just a little frustrated right now, so I'll respond to some of it when I calm down. ^^

:lol: I'm relieved!
Can't wait to see what else can be said about Link. Reading, writting, arguing about it helps me corner his nature for my little project. :zelink:

I might take a few jabs at the concept of Zelink here and there but I never intended to insult you personally. I think its clear when I talk about Zelink being Zelda in having Link as her own personal trophy pet/sex slave is not to be taken seriously. Anyway you being a Zelinker doesn't mean I think bad about you at all. So I'm sorry if you thought I was personally attacking you.