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Title: The ZeLink Letter
Description: because TP pissed me off


NekoDono - December 15, 2006 12:11 PM (GMT)
Ahem, I have a plan to request ZeLink in the next Legend of Zelda game because TP sorely ignored there beautiful love. The plan is this: I wrote a very long and detailed letter and I am gathering signatures to put with it. At school I have at least twenty-four, including myself. If you wish to sign the letter just PM me your name or something and I'll put it on. Hopefully the letter will make it there. I will post the letter as soon as I have more time on the computer. - much love - ND

Dirty Harry - December 15, 2006 01:56 PM (GMT)
DH signs this and petitions for LxZ hints in the next game, not a full blown out romance-so we can leave some to imagination!

Ingie - December 16, 2006 02:15 AM (GMT)
Hints are too subtle! We need more than just hints! I want a developed, believable relationship, and that does NOT have to mean a make out scene, or even a simple kiss. I just want Nintendo to CLEARLY establish a strong connection between Link and Zelda for once. It's always been to subtle and iffy. *pouts*

What an awesome idea, I'm SO signing it! It would be amazing if it reached Nintendo...

Paladin's Heart - December 17, 2006 05:31 PM (GMT)
Signed. It's so BLATANTLY obvious Nintendo even considers a relationship between Link and Zelda, that I want them to develop it further on. Hints here and there are fine and all, but does it has to go on for a series about 19 years?

Nintendo deserves to hear the fangirl's cry after the disappointing lack of hints in TP. :giggle:

AmayaSaria - December 18, 2006 01:49 AM (GMT)
-signs her name-

Link and Zelda really deserve to have their relationship to go further. Its not right for Nintendo to start something and never finish it. It makes me (and other people!) very angry. D:< I really really want Nintendo to give a sign, more hints, SOMETHING. Their love is so wonderful to not be noticed...Nintendo really needs to patch it up, and at least give us more. Its not fair that they give hints in all the other games, and leave us hardly any in TP. (or so I've heard, I haven't played it yet. ;_; )

NekoDono - December 18, 2006 11:43 AM (GMT)
Thank you all. The letter was written in a formal, business letter format to where they will hopefully take us seriously. The letter asks for a direct Zelda is Link's love interest in the next LoZ game. Because really hints and pokes is all fine and dandy but I'd prefer a solid romance. :lol:

Lutearina - December 19, 2006 08:15 AM (GMT)
-signage-

Yush, yush, we need more than dem glancez of luurrve. xD

Ingie - December 19, 2006 08:11 PM (GMT)
Oh yeah, I'd love a solid romance too, with kissing and everything (so long as it's T-rated, ehem), but I seriously doubt we'd get that. *sigh*

Hylia Princess - December 28, 2006 05:46 PM (GMT)
I hope not to become a target of hate in this matter, but doesn't anybody think that this letter is a little much? *hides from crowd*

Nintendo might read the letter, but the over powering of fans of that just like the game play will surely win them over. I mean, I liked TP for their game play and storyline. Even though ZeLink lacked, I have to admit that this is one of the greatest games in time. To complain that ZeLink wasn't in there a lot is alright, but making a letter and taking it to Nintendo yourself? I feel that as though it is a little extreme.

But don't get me wrong. I love zeldaxlink. This game made me want more, especially when they showed how beautiful Princess Zelda was. However, I have nothing really to complain about! The ratings for all magazines have been high 10s! Nintendo, gave it a 9.5. Funny, huh?

Ingie - December 28, 2006 07:43 PM (GMT)
I don't think this letter is too much. Nintendo probably gets this sort of stuff all the time, and I doubt it will affect them much. First of all, I don't think it'll get enough signatures to make much of a statement, and second, why would some letter from the fans make a difference in game development? I'd definately still try, though.

About Twilight Princess, I have to disagree about the storyline. To put it simply, it just wasn't very Zelda-ish. Think about it, Zelda was hardly in it at all, Ganondorf seemed to have been put in there as an afterthought, and even Link seemed to be a secondary character. It was all about Midna and Zant, Midna and Zant. Zelda and Ganondorf should have had MUCH more important roles, and don't say they did. It wouldn't have made a crucial difference if they weren't in the game at all. And as for Link, I hated how he never seemed to do anything for Hyrule because he wanted to. It was always what Midna told him to do. Midna called the shots and he did the dirty work. Don't get me wrong, I love Midna, but she just hogged the spotlight a bit too much. Link is the Chosen Defender of Hyrule, but I never really got that vibe from TP, despite how many times he was addressed as such. It was just different in OoT... OoT was about Link and Zelda and their fight against Ganon to protect their realm of Hyrule. Sure it's nice to mix it up a bit, but you can do that without abandoning the main characters.

I also find it pathetic that the word "Triforce" wasn't mentioned once throught the entire game! Sure they showed it in that one cutscene, but it just wasn't enough to get across exactly what it is and how important it is. The connection between the three Triforce keepers was not established at all.

I think I would have loved the storyline if I wasn't a hardcore Zelda fan. But because I love the characters Zelda, Ganondorf, and Link, I have a sort of love-hate situation with it. For what it's worth, it's still a wonderful story, just not very Zelda-ish.

Hylia Princess - December 28, 2006 08:56 PM (GMT)
But, they say the Legend of Zelda is turning a different direction of what it use to be, aren't they? It wasn't exactly Link doing what Midna requested, it was more of "Link had no choice". He had to save the world, and it wasn't just Midna telling him too either. Link wanted to do what he had too (I wont mention spoilers), but how was he going to do with without getting Midna's help? In a way, it was a good mixture of adding Midna into the mix. Plus, not every Link can just pop out of no where and understand their destiny. This hero is just as great as any other Link because it shows reason for him taking up his destiny.

But I guess I'm wrong? I mean, in terms of how ZeLink wasn't in the game, I can argue on how i hated it too. But I really like this game. Everybody has their own opinion I suppose. I really am sorry if I've offended you Ingie, or anyone else for that matter.

EDIT: Oh, and I wanted to add in that this game is just great with or without ZeLink. I love the couple, but I guess that i'm not 'hardcore' like that. I'm a hardcore fan of the series in general, I have played since Nintendo Zelda was released. I joined this forum for that reason: my interest in the couple. Not exactly proving and wanting it that bad in the game. Does that make me bad?

Ingie - December 28, 2006 09:49 PM (GMT)
Wait, I wasn't even talking about Zelink... Zelda doesn't have to have a relationship with Link to make the story good. But she does have to be in the game as a well developed character. Same with Ganondorf. I never said I didn't like the storyline much because there's no Zelink. Sure, it puts a damper on it for me, but that's not what makes a Zelda game.

It's true Link didn't have much of a choice in the beginning, but after a while he did. He coud have easily just walked away after the Twilight was lifted from Hyrule, but he didn't. This is obviously because he has a good heart and he does wish to help, but the game never really clarifies his feelings on this. However, I will admit it's difficult to do that without having him speak, so maybe I'll just have to accept that Link will always be limited as to how much he can express himself. I just think OoT Link had more of a sense of duty, while TP Link seems to have a sense of mere obligation.

Don't worry Hylia Princess, you haven't offended me. :) This is all just my opinion, it's okay if you disagree. But storywise, I still prefer OoT, and it's not just because of Zelink.

Hylia Princess - December 28, 2006 09:56 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Ingie @ Dec 28 2006, 09:49 PM)
Wait, I wasn't even talking about Zelink...

Oh. I feel dumb. I assumed this because of the topic title. But, I want to reply with some things, but I feel as though I will go off topic. >< Should I make a new thread? I wanted to talk about the lack of Ganondorf in other games and having Vatai in there. Like Link's Awakening and Majora's Mask.

Ingie - December 28, 2006 10:34 PM (GMT)
You can, because I do have a response to your point about Ganondorf and I don't want to get more off topic either. ^^;

norngpinky - January 20, 2007 12:43 AM (GMT)
I want to sign the letter >_< I haven't beaten TP (not to bitterly mention I haven't gotten the game TT) I totally agree there's so little Zelink moment, and now Midna is going to annoy me (sorry Midna fans) ... One of my friends had beaten the game and said that there are more Zelink moments and he even showed me this cutscene (which is so cute), but I still think it's Zelink-deprived...he's a guy, after all. We, ladies, tend to see these romance thing deeper o.O

Saphine - January 21, 2007 10:03 AM (GMT)
I wanted to respond to this ever since it was first posted, but I haven't brought myself around to reply until now. What I will say might come off ill with some people, but let me just say that it isn't my intention to upset anyone.

I agree with Ingie for the most part.

First of all, I'd like to say that a letter of protest made by a few people (out of the millions of Nintendo fans out there) probably won't amount to much. Your efforts are meritorious, because it shows just how much people truly love, and are willing to stand up, for something they believe in (which, in this case, is the romance between Zelda and link).

But let me remind you that the greatest part of the game is the game itself in it's entirety. What's the point of liking the relationship in a game if you don't like the actual game? If you ask me, I love the Zelda games for everything that it is, and the existence of Zelda and Link (and their relationship) is just one of many reasons.

If you're a fan of Zelda you should first, and foremost, be a fan because you like the game. That's what I think, anyway.

You also musn't forget that, while Nintendo is renown for being a very amenable company, it is just that. A company. A business that makes money off of their games. They have to be unbiased, and try to satisfy people with what works.

You heard it yourself from Aonuma that "[...]it's true that teenagers have these relationships -- and we would love if it could happen with the princess." Despite him liking the idea, however, as seen in Twilight Princess, it turned out much more differently than anyone thought.

*On a side note, let me remind you that [Spoiler:] Midna is a princess as well. [/spoiler] So, technically speaking, Nintendo Kept their word... just with that vague-ness they are so famed for.

Zelda games are all about vague-ness. Often times one ends up with more questions than answers, and it's this ambiguity that allows us to use our imaginations. Nintendo is big on letting their fans be creative (quite obviously, too), so why shouldn't we let our imaginations free? Everything really just depends on the perspective of how you take things, and how you feel about them. With a little imagination here, and a little love there, you have yourself a well developed obsession (not that that's a bad thing, I'm very much obsessed with Zelda myself XD).

Keep in mind, though, that "canon" restricts us, and ties us down to the boundaries of the game, no matter how loose said boundaries are... and that's where arguments sprout (whether it be debates on relationships, timelines, or something else).

So I'm all for the romance between the Princess and Hero, and in fact, I'm head over heels in love with the idea... but that doesn't stop me from understanding that there ARE other pairing possibilities, and that, though Zelink may be hinted at (as are many other shippings), it's never "canon" (except in a few games). I like it, and believe in it, because I want to.

While I also felt deprived of my usual Zelink-high in Twilight Princess, being that this is one of the few Zelda titles so closely envisioned next to Ocarina of Time, I kept an open mind for the most part...

I'm going to quote myself from ZeldaBlog:

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"I honestly have to say that the one and only reason Twilight Princess came off as “bad” was because I, myself, made it so.

My expectations soared above the clouds over the 3 year wait, and my analytical (and maybe even a little cynical) outlook on TP made me bitter throughout the entire game play, pointing out things I didn’t like, and things I wished there was more of. I overlooked all the new things added, and all the old things kept– and namely, I lost my positive perspective and love for Zelda as a whole.

While I can’t call any Zelda to be the BEST of the series, I can say that each is special in it’s own way. Twilight Princess, much like Ocarina of Time, is yet another stepping stone into the future of Zelda games. We should all face forward, and try not to be stuck on the past too much.

I realized when I played the game (TP) through a second time that playing a game with a positive outlook makes things just that much more fun. "


It's not like Twilight Princess was completely devoid of Zelda and Link romance, too. All that depends is how deeply you believe in it, and from there, your world will be lit with optimism.

And Hey, we shouldn't be too upset. The relationship between Link and Zelda is one of the most hinted in the Zelda games, anyway-- if you're looking for romance, and can't find much in Twilight Princess, just look to the other games. Adventures of Link, A Link to the Past, Ocarina of Time, The Wind Waker, Minish Cap... the list goes on! Quite frankly, we're lucky, because we've got a lot more in-game-romance-time than most other shippings, and we shouldn't take that for granted.

:zelink: It's like a desert. You love it, and crave it, but can live a without it (for a while).

So don't be angry! Just open your mind a bit, and use your heart and imagination!



-- As for the "lack of development" on Zelda and Ganondorfs part?

Here are my thoughts (so we don't go off topic).

Hylian Princess - August 5, 2008 11:10 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (AmayaSaria @ Dec 18 2006, 01:49 AM)
Link and Zelda really deserve to have their relationship to go further. Its not right for Nintendo to start something and never finish it. It makes me (and other people!) very angry. D:< I really really want Nintendo to give a sign, more hints, SOMETHING. Their love is so wonderful to not be noticed...Nintendo really needs to patch it up, and at least give us more. Its not fair that they give hints in all the other games, and leave us hardly any in TP. (or so I've heard, I haven't played it yet. ;_; )

I haven't played the game yet either, but I kinda spoiled myself about zelink in TP, watching youtube all the time.
I love everything about the game, except for one thing. THE LACK OF ZELINK RELATIONSHIP!!! It drives me nuts, I feel like I want to pull my hair off sometimes!!! They kept giving deep hints that may be hard to spot about zelink!!!!

Nintendo might to rethink about how they show relationships.
And I don't want a simple smack on the cheeks and be done with it!!! There has to be more than signs, and way more hints. One thing they might want to try is a rivalry between two girls (maybe Illia and Zelda. Illia is a goner! Sorry Illia fans... but she's got little skills in battle) and then Link must say something about it. Or that might just ruin the plot. Well, they'll make up something, hopefully!!!

:link: + :zelda: = :zelink:

zelda-in-disguise - August 5, 2008 11:19 PM (GMT)
Sign me up! I forgot to say that earlier ^^; MORE ZELINK!!!!!!!!!!

Echowindsong - June 16, 2011 05:56 PM (GMT)
I want to sign! I agree, subtle hints aren't enough. :( I mean, they're great and all, but... please, Nintendo? :zelink:

zerdax - June 19, 2011 01:07 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Echowindsong @ Jun 16 2011, 05:56 PM)
I want to sign! I agree, subtle hints aren't enough. :( I mean, they're great and all, but... please, Nintendo? :zelink:

That's not really gonna help anymore because Skyward Sword is a nearly-done if not done (at least finished in planning) but I really hope that Aonuma and Miyamoto have heard us ZeLink fans and made something into the game. XD it's very possible...




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