Title: Sheik: Boy or Girl?
Description: share opinions or evidence here
Alantie - July 16, 2006 04:37 PM (GMT)
It's probably one of the most debated topics ever in LoZ: Sheik's gender. Is Sheik the male alter ego of Zelda, or is Sheik just Zelda crossdressing? :lol: Share your opinions here, debate, whatever!
AmayaSaria - July 16, 2006 10:59 PM (GMT)
In the game OOT, I believe Sheik is really a girl, basically Zelda in disguise...
....but I have no proof of that. For the OOT game, they seemed to simplify the story more.
The OOT manga seems to have more depth in the story....so I think Sheik is a guy in the manga, but a girl in the game.
http://www.zelda-infinite.com/files/manga/...?chap=3&page=13Although in that part they may be referring to her being a "boy" in disguse. So I don't really know.
Dirty Harry - July 17, 2006 03:10 PM (GMT)
OoT; her voice sounds like a girl. Assuming from her age, as we can see, being compared to Link (in terms of height, and body build) she looks like she was a girl with a VERY tight bodice of some kind on.
OoT Mange: Definitely boy in disguise. Refer to number four? of manga in which she explains to Link why she was hiding who se truly was, and why she disguised as a Sheika BOY. It's all confusing.
Anything else, I dunno...
Alantie - July 19, 2006 06:43 PM (GMT)
I think what it comes down to is that Sheik is a part of Zelda, whatever way you want to look at it. Whether Sheik is male or female doesn't really matter since Sheik is truly Zelda, and we all know Zelda is female. *shrug* I know the people who like yaoi like to believe that Sheik is a boy since they like Link with other males. . . Grah, its a very confusing topic, isn't it?
Dirty Harry - July 20, 2006 05:32 AM (GMT)
hehehe...the Yaoi LxZ fans think of Sheik as a male, HAHAHA!
Alantie - July 20, 2006 05:06 PM (GMT)
*shudder* Yeah, I believe you are right on that one! :lol:
But I read through the OoT manga chapter where Zelda reveals herself to Link, and I started thinking about something. I think most people assume that when Zelda sent Link back in time to live out his seven years, they think that she stayed in the future. But from what it says in OoT manga, Zelda sealed away her consiousness for seven while she was Sheik, the same way Link was sealed away. So in a way, Zelda missed out on those seven years too. . . so maybe she sent herself back as well? Bleh, so confusing! :blink:
Dirty Harry - July 21, 2006 06:15 AM (GMT)
Hmm...she probably did. Otherwise it doesn't explain why there is a Zelda in Link's past. Because otherwise in the Ganondorf alternate future there must be another Link, and then...yeah.
Alantie - July 21, 2006 05:23 PM (GMT)
*clutches head* It's all so confusing!!! Why can't they clear some of this stuff up?! CURSE YOU SCRIPTWRITERS!!!!! *said in deep booming Ganny voice*
Dirty Harry - July 23, 2006 02:38 PM (GMT)
Alantie - July 24, 2006 02:26 AM (GMT)
CURSE YOU THEN!!! *steals the MAster Sword and chases after firefly with it*
I dunno what to make of it all. I always thought Sheik was a girl in the game, until Ruto called him a he, then I was confused. . . I still think it might be a mistranslation. .. *shrug*
Dirty Harry - July 24, 2006 02:37 AM (GMT)
And I love you too, dearest.
Hmm...yeah, it's real confusing. someone asked about it on the ask Link section. go see how Link thought of it...
Alantie - July 24, 2006 02:45 AM (GMT)
Rofl. Aww, I'm blushin'! ;)
Meh, alright, I shall go see what Linkykins has to say about the Sheik subject. *scampers off*
Dirty Harry - July 24, 2006 02:50 PM (GMT)
Trust me. I'm blushing too. I think I was a bit drunk...sorry!
Alantie - July 25, 2006 08:32 PM (GMT)
Meh, its okay! :D If I had been angry, I would have hit you over the head with something :lol:
So it seems even Link isn't sure about Sheik, except to know that it is his beloved Zelda, no matter her form. MWAHAHAHAHA!! So I was RIGHT!! Take that all who oppose me!
Dirty Harry - August 2, 2006 08:17 AM (GMT)
Are we the only two on this topic?
Alantie - August 2, 2006 04:36 PM (GMT)
*looks up at the other posts* Besides Amaya's one comment, yes ^_^; Kind of hard to discuss this with just you and me, huh? Well, once we round up some more members, maybe things will pick up.
Sheik=Zelda. Bleh, no matter what way you argue it, Sheik is Zelda. *trying to stay on topic :P *
Dirty Harry - August 3, 2006 01:52 PM (GMT)
Alantie - August 3, 2006 04:08 PM (GMT)
*shakes head* :lol:
Doesn't Drag Queen only refer to men who dress as women? :blink: So if you were. . . oh I'm not even going to try and explain my train of thought. It's far too early. I'll give myself a headache! And now I'm confusing myself and sort of spamming, so I'm just going to stop.
Zelda and Sheik are the same person my friends.
Ingie - August 5, 2006 07:24 PM (GMT)
My gosh, I refuse to argue this. SHEIK IS ZELDA. It doesn't matter if anyone in the game refers to Sheik as "he" because Zelda is afterall disguised as a boy. It's still her, she merely used magic to change her appearance. It even says so on one of the SSBM Sheik trophies, and that's official!
There are few things that irritate me more than Link/Sheik yaoi. It's SO inaccurate and SO stupid. -_-
So I agree wholeheartedly with Alantie. :)
Dirty Harry - August 6, 2006 09:40 AM (GMT)
But she is still a drag queen. Nooo...wait....SHEIK IS A DRAG QUEEN!! AHAHAHA! TWISTED TRAIN OF THOUGHT!
I like Ingie's view. Let's sleep now. Lion dance own. Me. That is. Pwned...*dies*
Alantie - August 7, 2006 12:37 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Ingie @ Aug 5 2006, 07:24 PM) |
My gosh, I refuse to argue this. SHEIK IS ZELDA. It doesn't matter if anyone in the game refers to Sheik as "he" because Zelda is afterall disguised as a boy. It's still her, she merely used magic to change her appearance. It even says so on one of the SSBM Sheik trophies, and that's official!
There are few things that irritate me more than Link/Sheik yaoi. It's SO inaccurate and SO stupid. -_-
So I agree wholeheartedly with Alantie. :) |
I am glad we agree ^_^ The Sheik/Link yaoi crap just really gets on my nerves, for all the reasons you've stated. Sheik is Zelda disguised as a boy. Zelda is a girl, otherwise she'd be called 'Prince' of Hyrule. And that is that.
Zelda - August 20, 2006 10:37 PM (GMT)
Sheik's a chick, imo. Zelda's just big on disguises, lol. In OOT and SSBM, Sheik does come across as feminine. I always thought the princess just used magic to change her outer appearance (like making her skin darker) but was the same person on the inside.
The manga is really great and I love it, but it's not strictly canon. The author took some liberties and decided to have Sheik become another half of Zelda, rather than simply being Zelda herself.
In either case, Zelda is Sheik. Sheik doesn't exist as his own person, because technically there is no "Sheik". It's just a chick dressed as a ninja. And poo on the yaoi fanpoodles who say otherwise.
Dirty Harry - August 22, 2006 09:29 AM (GMT)
Zelda=Tetra=Sheik=Marin= :blink: = :zelda: YAY!
Alantie - August 22, 2006 05:30 PM (GMT)
Couldn't have said it better myself Zelda!! *applauds*
:lol: DH, you are so silly!
Dirty Harry - August 23, 2006 04:23 PM (GMT)
I'm right. You all know it. Even Zel. :D
Sk8ierBoi - August 29, 2006 05:37 PM (GMT)
I was just reading the post and you guys are hilarious. :D
I thought Sheik was a boy well because he looks like one and that's what I always thought. What makes you think he/she is a girl? Oh, gosh, that came out creepy! :)
But Sheik is a boy....
Alantie - August 29, 2006 08:28 PM (GMT)
^_^ Teehee, I'm glad we amuse you!!
Alright, to be perfectly honest, I thought Sheik was a girl at first. I really did. It wasn't until Ruto said "A young man named Sheik saved me blah blah blah" that I thought: "Sheik's a guy? Wtf?" And then when I found out that Sheik was Zelda, I was even more confused!! But here's the thing: no matter which way you look at things, Sheik IS Zelda. And what gender is Zelda? A girl. Otherwise she would be called "Prince' of Hyrule. Get what I'm trying to say? It doesn't matter if you think Sheik is supposed to be Zelda in a guy's body, Zelda dressing in drag, or whatever, because Sheik is Zelda, and Zelda is a girl. :zelda:
Dirty Harry - August 30, 2006 01:49 PM (GMT)
I live to serve. :D
Well...it's hard to say. I mean, who knows, she could have used a spell...wait, we must DEFINE GENDERS!! OR ELSE! EWWW!
Lutearina - September 1, 2006 04:11 PM (GMT)
Urfff....Yaoi. The mention of that dreaded word sends cold shivers up and down my spine....Well, technically, I can't feel them since they screwed around with my spine in the hospital, but, well, that's another story that I think we all know. :P
Yaoi is.....NO. That's all there is to it! xD
ESPECIALLY fanon yaoi. Don't get me started on that....Soriku, Akuroku, everything....It burns! xD
So, yes, Sheik IS Zelda. Always has been and always will.
Alantie - September 1, 2006 09:02 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Lutearina @ Sep 1 2006, 04:11 PM) |
Urfff....Yaoi. The mention of that dreaded word sends cold shivers up and down my spine....Well, technically, I can't feel them since they screwed around with my spine in the hospital, but, well, that's another story that I think we all know. :P
Yaoi is.....NO. That's all there is to it! xD
ESPECIALLY fanon yaoi. Don't get me started on that....Soriku, Akuroku, everything....It burns! xD
So, yes, Sheik IS Zelda. Always has been and always will. |
I am SO glad you agree with me Lutey!! It's just so so so wrong. I hate yaoi. *shudder* But you know how the yaoi fans are. They claim Sheik to be a guy so they can pair poor Link up with another male :blink:
Ingie - September 2, 2006 04:27 AM (GMT)
I know! I hate it too! Sometimes I force myself to see it as being Zelda, but there's always something... not right about the pics... I think it's the way Link is portrayed. He's always the girly one in the yaoi couples... BLECH. *shudder* It's so out of character for him!
The Link/Dark Link pairing is another one... why, I ask you, WHY!?
I personally think the yaoi stuff is an insult to the makers of Zelda. I mean, it's so off the mark- why do they try to change something that's already so awesome? In such a ridiculous way too... what would they do if they came face to face about it with the Shiggy himself?
Dirty Harry - September 2, 2006 11:09 AM (GMT)
Sheik Link. Perverted. Shudder.
gr33n_sl33ves - September 10, 2006 05:09 PM (GMT)
I never really understood the fascination towards yaoi that some fangirls have (I don't think I've ever seen a yaoi fanboy). I mean, if it was canon, I'd be fine with it (because then it would be legitimate and all), but to arbitrarily throw two straight guys together, just because they're "kewt bois" seems kinda silly to me. And whenever they do that, they always make one out who would be "on top", as it were, and then they make the other one bee all girly and wear a wedding dress (they're really fond of their wedding pictures, those yaoi fangirls).
And there are quite a few yaoi fangirls I've seen who think Link/Ganondorf is awesome x_x
BatNeko - September 11, 2006 03:29 AM (GMT)
It's hard to tell, really. Is it a magic disguise? Does she actually change her gender? We'll probably never know.
As for the yaoi... Mrrgh. I do like yaoi, but not Zelda yaoi. Zelda + Link all the way, 100%, always.
Alantie - September 11, 2006 03:15 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (gr33n_sl33ves @ Sep 10 2006, 05:09 PM) |
I never really understood the fascination towards yaoi that some fangirls have (I don't think I've ever seen a yaoi fanboy). I mean, if it was canon, I'd be fine with it (because then it would be legitimate and all), but to arbitrarily throw two straight guys together, just because they're "kewt bois" seems kinda silly to me. And whenever they do that, they always make one out who would be "on top", as it were, and then they make the other one bee all girly and wear a wedding dress (they're really fond of their wedding pictures, those yaoi fangirls).
And there are quite a few yaoi fangirls I've seen who think Link/Ganondorf is awesome x_x |
*gags* Yaoi just makes me want to vomit. *shudder* Tis just so wrong to make straight guys gay!!!! :angry: And the yaoi fangirls seem to have a few screws loose. If they are gay, that means they don't like girls, which means the yaoi fangirls are out of luck, you know? Just doesn't make sense in my mind. And the LinkxGanny fans are seriously messed up!!!! AHHHHH!!!!!! Link is NOT gay, and if he was, he would NEVER be so with his arch foe!!! Bleh, bleh, bleh!!!! :blehh:
Yes, there is some magic involved with Zelda's Sheik disguise. Her eyes change color!! Tis cool!!!
Dirty Harry - September 11, 2006 03:34 PM (GMT)
OMG! SHE HAS CONTACTS
Wait. Did they have contacts in Hyrule, back then?
gr33n_sl33ves - September 18, 2006 06:20 PM (GMT)
Actually, they did. Zelda invented them (she doesn't have the Triforce of Wisdom for nothing, you know)
Dirty Harry - October 1, 2006 03:58 PM (GMT)
Hey, if Batneko and CM read this, they write really similarly... :blink:
gr33n_sl33ves - October 4, 2006 12:42 AM (GMT)
Hm, do they? How odd :blink:
Hylia Princess - October 23, 2006 05:11 PM (GMT)
This all depends on how we view it. For example, I think that Sheik, as Sheik, is a man. When we see the character, we can't call him Zelda. When Zelda is herself, she can't be Sheik. If you go by the game, it would be Sheik is a dude because Ruto calls him one. If you go by the manga, I think she was turned into one.
But besides these silly points, Sheik is all girl. LOL