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Posted: Jul 23 2006, 09:56 AM


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Done £85 quid in yesterday in 4 spins. looked at the previous it had 5 blacks in a row so i put £10 on red. black. £15 on red. black £ 20 on red. black. £40 on red. black. 9 BLACKS IN A FUCKING ROW. They are a fucking joke. Fixed as fuck.


Had £100 on the Hibs at 10/11 to make it back though. Lucky as fuck.
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Posted: Jul 23 2006, 10:15 AM


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Those machines are the crack cocaine of the gambling world thumbsdown.gif

Best to stay well clear


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QUOTE (M25Red @ Jul 23 2006, 11:15 AM)
Those machines are the crack cocaine of the gambling world thumbsdown.gif

Best to stay well clear

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The bookies are making a killing on them, to be honest though it’s mostly joe dakies and chinks on them near my gaff.

More money then sense folk that play them.


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Posted: Jul 23 2006, 10:40 AM


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same as online poker, fixed as fuck.

amount of times only 1 card can beat you and it comes out on the river NOdding.gif

would never happen in a normal card school.

you end up playing the computer not the cards on the table.
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Fixed as fuck yet I still go back and play on them. Lost my rag though when 15 came in 3x in a row. I of course did not have 15.

As punishment for playing roulette so much I am off to Swindon v Palace now SIGH.gif

Just 1 horse for me today Zalda 3:30 Newton Abbot, round 9/4 at moment
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roulette machines are not fixed as such, they have different programs but settings cannot be altered - I work in Ladbrokes, they average 1.4% profit each month - I put £5 in one at corals on my lunch break last week and walked away with £450.


I always stick to the same numbers and never chase money - it's swings and round abouts NOdding.gif


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QUOTE (we-are-stoke @ Jul 23 2006, 03:57 PM)
roulette machines are not fixed as such, they have different programs but settings cannot be altered - I work in Ladbrokes, they average 1.4% profit each month - I put £5 in one at corals on my lunch break last week and walked away with £450.


I always stick to the same numbers and never chase money - it's swings and round abouts NOdding.gif

Im sure the profits are a lot higher than that nixweiss.gif

But i dont know many people who walk off winning

And lastly why is it you hammer the board and yet the worst number always pops out


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QUOTE (rentboy @ Jul 23 2006, 04:02 PM)
QUOTE (we-are-stoke @ Jul 23 2006, 03:57 PM)
roulette machines are not fixed as such, they have different programs but settings cannot be altered - I work in Ladbrokes, they average 1.4% profit each month - I put £5 in one at corals on my lunch break last week and walked away with £450.


I always stick to the same numbers and never chase money - it's swings and round abouts NOdding.gif

Im sure the profits are a lot higher than that nixweiss.gif

But i dont know many people who walk off winning

And lastly why is it you hammer the board and yet the worst number always pops out

it is completley random - 100%



before I started working there I thought it was all bollocks and they make 50% profit or something stupid like that, but no - our monthly target is 1.3% profit off the FOBTs NOdding.gif


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QUOTE (OrdinaryBoy @ Jul 23 2006, 12:14 PM)


Just 1 horse for me today Zalda 3:30 Newton Abbot, round 9/4 at moment

Losing streak finally over disco.gif
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I know nowt about online roulette, But was sent this if any of you lads are clued up think its any use or rubbish let us know.

http://www.footy-live.com/888/
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QUOTE (Brian @ Jul 23 2006, 08:24 PM)
I know nowt about online roulette, But was sent this if any of you lads are clued up think its any use or rubbish let us know.

http://www.footy-live.com/888/

Roulette online or off is a mugs game (no offence to those that play it!) as the odds offered will make you an loser in the long run.

That link is probably just selling The Martingale System. Using even money bets you double your stake after each bet you loose, if you loose that you keep doubling up until you win again (thus breaking even with a small profit) and then go back to your original stake. Until you loose again.

It can work in the short term but the reality is your having a winning run at the wheel, More often than not you'll use up your roll before recouping.

8 spins of a wheel is nothing online or on they machines but 5 - 10 - 20 - 40 - 80 - 160 - 320 - 640 is a loosing streak costing £1275. Even if you had that money to spin for a ninth time they machines and casinos have an upper bet limit so even betting at that each time and you'll be running at a loss. Also it really isn't uncommon for black or red to appear 10 -15 times in succession which will bankrupt you if you don't hit.

Mathematically, with unlimited money and no restrictions placed on the game it works, but that's about it.

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Been on that 888.com casino , racked up $1100 using that 'treble up if you lose system ' on roulette but then lost a load after numerous losses.
At the moment theres a loophole on the site whereby if you say put $200 in your account (new registers) they will match it with $200 , so you now have $400 ... if you wait untill your account shows $400 you can actually withdraw your origanal $200 deposit and the bonus $200 they give you remains in.
You can't withdraw the bonus money but you have to wager it 20 times before you can .
Hope that makes sense.
Its worth a try .

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QUOTE (iggesund @ Jul 23 2006, 11:40 AM)
same as online poker, fixed as fuck.

amount of times only 1 card can beat you and it comes out on the river NOdding.gif

would never happen in a normal card school.

you end up playing the computer not the cards on the table.

jpshakehead.gif

Why would a Poker site making millions of dollars from "rake" revenue and tournament entry fees need to fix the games?

It makes no difference to the site who wins or who loses, unlike of course
and online casinos where its you against the house.

Too be honest it is every bad players statement that the site is rigged

Polish up your game a little and youll see what I mean wink.gif


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QUOTE (squareone @ Jul 26 2006, 08:52 PM)
Been on that 888.com casino , racked up $1100  using that 'treble up if you lose system ' on roulette but then lost a load after numerous losses.
At the moment theres a loophole on the site whereby if you say put $200 in your account (new registers) they will match it with $200 , so you now have $400 ... if you wait untill your account shows $400 you can actually withdraw your origanal $200 deposit and the bonus $200 they give you remains in.
You can't withdraw the bonus money but you have to wager it 20 times before you can .
Hope that makes sense.
Its worth a try  .

Thanks Mucka, Thats what I was wondering if you did actually get the 200 notes for free so to speak, I Suppose its worth just getting the free wedge and playing with that and see how it goes, If you make a bit draw it out and dont return, Then its job done.
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QUOTE (squareone @ Jul 26 2006, 08:52 PM)
Been on that 888.com casino , racked up $1100 using that 'treble up if you lose system ' on roulette but then lost a load after numerous losses.
At the moment theres a loophole on the site whereby if you say put $200 in your account (new registers) they will match it with $200 , so you now have $400 ... if you wait untill your account shows $400 you can actually withdraw your origanal $200 deposit and the bonus $200 they give you remains in.
You can't withdraw the bonus money but you have to wager it 20 times before you can .
Hope that makes sense.
Its worth a try .

When you say 'you have to wager it twenty times' do you to put the full £200 on twenty times or is there a minimum stake twenty times?

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QUOTE (Personal Jesus @ Jul 26 2006, 09:04 PM)
Why would a Poker site making millions of dollars from "rake" revenue and tournament entry fees need to fix the games?

It makes no difference to the site who wins or who loses, unlike of course
and online casinos where its you against the house.

Too be honest it is every bad players statement that the site is rigged

Polish up your game a little and youll see what I mean wink.gif

To generate even more money from the rake and buy-ins. Not all rooms are fixed but some definately are, especially at low stakes where it'll go mostly undetected.

Do do a bit of bonus whoring on the poker sites - sign up for the max amount, play tight on low stakes tables, clear the requirement and then cash out until the next reload offer.
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QUOTE (nsew @ Jul 23 2006, 10:20 AM)
QUOTE (M25Red @ Jul 23 2006, 11:15 AM)
Those machines are the crack cocaine of the gambling world thumbsdown.gif

Best to stay well clear

NOdding.gif

The bookies are making a killing on them, to be honest though it’s mostly joe dakies and chinks on them near my gaff.

More money then sense folk that play them.

Can't get near the fucking things form chinks round my way NOdding.gif


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mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif Why do I play fucking roulette online. Just lost £50 in a matter of minutes, bad day with those 2 horses.

More to the point, why do people play American roulette? Same odds but 1 extra number on the table, thus slightly reducing your chances of winning.
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QUOTE (OrdinaryBoy @ Jul 27 2006, 06:46 PM)
mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif Why do I play fucking roulette online. Just lost £50 in a matter of minutes, bad day with those 2 horses.

More to the point, why do people play American roulette? Same odds but 1 extra number on the table, thus slightly reducing your chances of winning.

Knock the interactive betting on the head mate NOdding.gif Its too easy to access. I learnt that the hard way. Still owe my credit card £1500. I only bet down the bookies now. Playing in cash rather than playing with figures is more of a buzz.
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QUOTE (pixie76 @ Jul 27 2006, 07:43 AM)
QUOTE (squareone @ Jul 26 2006, 08:52 PM)
Been on that 888.com casino , racked up $1100  using that 'treble up if you lose system ' on roulette but then lost a load after numerous losses.
At the moment theres a loophole on the site whereby if you say put $200 in your account (new registers) they will match it with $200 , so you now have $400 ... if you wait untill your account shows $400 you can actually withdraw your origanal $200 deposit and the bonus $200 they give you remains in.
You can't withdraw the bonus money but you have to wager it 20 times before you can .
Hope that makes sense.
Its worth a try  .

When you say 'you have to wager it twenty times' do you to put the full £200 on twenty times or is there a minimum stake twenty times?

if it was just the bonus you have to play thru 20 times ud have to play £4000. check the small print as could be bous and stake total. sites do vary with bonuses. best to keep to small stakes and use blackjack as this has the lowest house advantage if played correctly.

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QUOTE (pixie76 @ Jul 27 2006, 07:06 PM)
QUOTE (OrdinaryBoy @ Jul 27 2006, 06:46 PM)
mad.gif  mad.gif  mad.gif  Why do I play fucking roulette online. Just lost £50 in a matter of minutes, bad day with those 2 horses.

More to the point, why do people play American roulette? Same odds but 1 extra number on the table, thus slightly reducing your chances of winning.

Knock the interactive betting on the head mate NOdding.gif Its too easy to access. I learnt that the hard way. Still owe my credit card £1500. I only bet down the bookies now. Playing in cash rather than playing with figures is more of a buzz.

Easier said then done SIGH.gif As I am sure you know
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QUOTE (OrdinaryBoy @ Jul 27 2006, 08:18 PM)
QUOTE (pixie76 @ Jul 27 2006, 07:06 PM)
QUOTE (OrdinaryBoy @ Jul 27 2006, 06:46 PM)
mad.gif  mad.gif  mad.gif  Why do I play fucking roulette online. Just lost £50 in a matter of minutes, bad day with those 2 horses.

More to the point, why do people play American roulette? Same odds but 1 extra number on the table, thus slightly reducing your chances of winning.

Knock the interactive betting on the head mate NOdding.gif Its too easy to access. I learnt that the hard way. Still owe my credit card £1500. I only bet down the bookies now. Playing in cash rather than playing with figures is more of a buzz.

Easier said then done SIGH.gif As I am sure you know

I know exactly what you mean wink.gif

My Blue Square account was linked to the joint account and I gambled away most of my wedding money so had to put all the bills / weekly shop.etc on my credit card till I paid it all back. Had to cancel it before I ended up getting in serious trouble. Cunts spent about 10 mins trying to change my mind. jpshakehead.gif

Murder at first not being able to just grab the laptop or remote control and having a bet when you want but you get used to it and i reckon you pick the bets more carefully when you got to go down the bookies. With interactive you end up betting on silly things for the sake of it and the biggest negative on interactive is if you go down you chase like fuck.

Keep your chin up and dont go 'silly' chasing fing32.gif
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QUOTE (pixie76 @ Jul 27 2006, 08:35 PM)
QUOTE (OrdinaryBoy @ Jul 27 2006, 08:18 PM)
QUOTE (pixie76 @ Jul 27 2006, 07:06 PM)
QUOTE (OrdinaryBoy @ Jul 27 2006, 06:46 PM)
mad.gif  mad.gif  mad.gif  Why do I play fucking roulette online. Just lost £50 in a matter of minutes, bad day with those 2 horses.

More to the point, why do people play American roulette? Same odds but 1 extra number on the table, thus slightly reducing your chances of winning.

Knock the interactive betting on the head mate NOdding.gif Its too easy to access. I learnt that the hard way. Still owe my credit card £1500. I only bet down the bookies now. Playing in cash rather than playing with figures is more of a buzz.

Easier said then done SIGH.gif As I am sure you know

I know exactly what you mean wink.gif

My Blue Square account was linked to the joint account and I gambled away most of my wedding money so had to put all the bills / weekly shop.etc on my credit card till I paid it all back. Had to cancel it before I ended up getting in serious trouble. Cunts spent about 10 mins trying to change my mind. jpshakehead.gif

Murder at first not being able to just grab the laptop or remote control and having a bet when you want but you get used to it and i reckon you pick the bets more carefully when you got to go down the bookies. With interactive you end up betting on silly things for the sake of it and the biggest negative on interactive is if you go down you chase like fuck.

Keep your chin up and dont go 'silly' chasing fing32.gif

Silly Chasing is key word the fella. That is what I have been doing.

Bet365 casino and Blue Sq's casino are my big downfalls. Wish i could close casino a/c's but leave normal part open. Thing is when bored, casino's seem like a great idea. Or if chasing as you see it as "easy, get rich quick money". Well least i do.

I actually stopped playing roulette for about a year after losing a fair bit, but recently got back into the habbit (all because i won £200 on my 1st go back on them)
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QUOTE (FTD @ Jul 27 2006, 11:41 AM)
QUOTE (Personal Jesus @ Jul 26 2006, 09:04 PM)
Why would a Poker site making millions of dollars from "rake" revenue and tournament entry fees need to fix the games?

It makes no difference to the site who wins or who loses, unlike of course
and online casinos where its you against the house.

Too be honest it is every bad players statement that the site is rigged

Polish up your game a little and youll see what I mean wink.gif

To generate even more money from the rake and buy-ins. Not all rooms are fixed but some definately are, especially at low stakes where it'll go mostly undetected.

Do do a bit of bonus whoring on the poker sites - sign up for the max amount, play tight on low stakes tables, clear the requirement and then cash out until the next reload offer.

You obviousley fall in to the "bad player" category NOdding.gif


Bonus whoring is a good way for the NONE poker player to make money. Very time consuming though, but at the end of the day it is FREE money if played correctly.

Im guessing your using www.bonuswhores.com for your information nixweiss.gif

Very useful site with full guidance how to make this risk free poker cash

I personally dont bother as I make money faster through actually playing proper, but anyone wanting an extra source of income for a few hours a night, check out the site.


Played online poker for over 3 years now, and for the past year been playing for a living, and admittedly in the early stages of playing online poker had the same thoughts as yourself. But as you do become a better player you will realise that most of the bad beats are avoidable, and with the the amount of hands you see in a session, no doubtably you will see people catching the miracle card as in online poker more people will call in with rubbish hands and chase you down the river. This is something that is less frequent in bricks and mortar games and therefore less bad beats

Patience and control are the key to winning at OP fing32.gif

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You obviousley fall in to the "bad player" category NOdding.gif


Strange, because I generally profit over the year, nothing too big but the summer holiday and Xmas now cost me nowt - from proper play too.

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Im guessing your using www.bonuswhores.com for your information nixweiss.gif


Among other sites but BW as a basis.

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and for the past year been playing for a living


Interesting. Mostly online? Cash, STT's MTT's? What stakes? PM me if you don't want to give it out here. Wouldn't mind getting to that point myself hence building the bankroll up through whoring first.

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and admittedly in the early stages of playing online poker had the same thoughts as yourself


I initially took the "what have they got to gain" view but then after playing some sites in comparrison to others, there is a very obvious difference. Some of the stats just don't add up and some rooms it seems there's a boat v flush showdown nearly every hand.

Then again I've read about 500 BB drops so who knows, end of the day if a site is generally profitable I'll play it, if not I leave it. Cryptologic sites leave a particularly bad taste in the mouth though.

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This is something that is less frequent in bricks and mortar games and therefore less bad beats


Gutshot player?

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QUOTE (pixie76 @ Jul 27 2006, 07:43 AM)
QUOTE (squareone @ Jul 26 2006, 08:52 PM)
Been on that 888.com casino , racked up $1100  using that 'treble up if you lose system ' on roulette but then lost a load after numerous losses.
At the moment theres a loophole on the site whereby if you say put $200 in your account (new registers) they will match it with $200 , so you now have $400 ... if you wait untill your account shows $400 you can actually withdraw your origanal $200 deposit and the bonus $200 they give you remains in.
You can't withdraw the bonus money but you have to wager it 20 times before you can .
Hope that makes sense.
Its worth a try  .

When you say 'you have to wager it twenty times' do you to put the full £200 on twenty times or is there a minimum stake twenty times?

To be honest not sure , i went on a winning streak ,started by putting 5's down then started wanging 50's on , i must have wagered enough in the end.
But with it being bonus free money i took a chance and put 50's down once i won a fair bit.


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QUOTE (pixie76 @ Jul 27 2006, 08:35 PM)
QUOTE (OrdinaryBoy @ Jul 27 2006, 08:18 PM)
QUOTE (pixie76 @ Jul 27 2006, 07:06 PM)
QUOTE (OrdinaryBoy @ Jul 27 2006, 06:46 PM)
mad.gif  mad.gif  mad.gif  Why do I play fucking roulette online. Just lost £50 in a matter of minutes, bad day with those 2 horses.

More to the point, why do people play American roulette? Same odds but 1 extra number on the table, thus slightly reducing your chances of winning.

Knock the interactive betting on the head mate NOdding.gif Its too easy to access. I learnt that the hard way. Still owe my credit card £1500. I only bet down the bookies now. Playing in cash rather than playing with figures is more of a buzz.

Easier said then done SIGH.gif As I am sure you know

I know exactly what you mean wink.gif

My Blue Square account was linked to the joint account and I gambled away most of my wedding money so had to put all the bills / weekly shop.etc on my credit card till I paid it all back. Had to cancel it before I ended up getting in serious trouble. Cunts spent about 10 mins trying to change my mind. jpshakehead.gif

Murder at first not being able to just grab the laptop or remote control and having a bet when you want but you get used to it and i reckon you pick the bets more carefully when you got to go down the bookies. With interactive you end up betting on silly things for the sake of it and the biggest negative on interactive is if you go down you chase like fuck.

Keep your chin up and dont go 'silly' chasing fing32.gif

Why oh why didnt you take your own advice Pixie dear boy?. Why oh why?

Would have saved myself another 1500 quid mad.gif

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