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| Lightning |
Posted: Aug 23 2009, 10:32 AM
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Larry - Near Fort Leavenworth KS ![]() Group: Camper Posts: 2,198 Member No.: 31 Joined: 21-July 09 |
I do not feel that anyones questions should be considered dumb, and it really infuriates me when someone asks a question and then some person blasts them out of their chair for even asking the question.
No matter how simple the answer might be or how frequently the same question has been ask or discussed, I think that it just shows the foolishness, ignorance and rudeness of that person if they make an insulting reply. We have all sorts of different levels of intelligence, knowledge and experience here and on other similar forums. Just because you happen to clearly know the correct answer, doesn't necessarily mean that everyone else knows that same answer. I feel that if the person takes the time to ask the question, then they should be given the courtesy and respect of a polite answer. My father always told me that if you didn't have something nice to say, it is much better to just not say anything. It only shows your stupidity by making some kind of a smart assed comment. No matter how silly or elementary the question might seem to the older or more well experienced person, it may very well be confusing to the newbie RV'er. Please be kind and courteous with all your comments. B) :unsure: :unsure: Thanks, Larry |
| jaybird |
Posted: Sep 21 2009, 04:37 PM
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Camper ![]() Group: Camper Posts: 384 Member No.: 49 Joined: 21-August 09 |
Your first paragraph reminds me of " someplace else" I used to frequent before I found this place!
jb |
| donsm60 |
Posted: Sep 21 2009, 08:06 PM
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Don... ![]() Group: Co-Administrator Posts: 2,709 Member No.: 51 Joined: 21-August 09 |
Amen and agree completely, if you can’t say something nice or try to be helpful why even post?
I remember a thread on PC.net when a father and son team installed a new kitchen together ‘with pictures’ and proud of their accomplishment and rightly so! And a two man bandwagon (one on this thread now) had to beat him up because of the brand cabinets they chose. That ticked me off and lost respect for them. I enjoy hanging with ‘good people’ and there is never a monetary value attached to it, on or offline. My take is some folks you just can’t teach basic ‘respect’ and the rest spend too much time trying to look smart on ‘every topic’ and others like to jump onboard just for sake of it, very ‘unimpressive’ in my book. Never liked the games on the ‘other board’ and happy to be spending my time here. I’m just Don, raw and uncut :) |
| Kajtek1 |
Posted: Sep 21 2009, 09:54 PM
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Kris from CA ![]() Group: BANNED Posts: 826 Member No.: 55 Joined: 24-August 09 |
I still think you guys simplify the issue.
Years ago, when I was new immigrant in US, I went to visit my very close friend who immigrated to Canada. At the time we could apply for the residency almost at any country, so we had lot of choices. So after couple of days in best polite words (I am not too god in those I admit) I told my friend that in US he can have way better life than in Canada. He still felt offended. So my realistic choice was to be gentle and not help him when I could, or try to help him with very important life decision and be called rude. Who says the life is easy? |
| OkieCat |
Posted: Sep 22 2009, 10:45 AM
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Cat - Tulsa, OK ![]() Group: CAMP HOST Posts: 687 Member No.: 26 Joined: 2-July 09 |
Don I remember that thread and it was a huge disappointment. I felt sorry for the poster. It was obvious they had worked hard on their project and then to have people nitpick it was just uncalled for! I had something similar happen via PM's after I posted pictures of our newly renovated kitchen. We opted for Formica counter tops that have a granite look (oh the shame) because of all the other work we wanted to do. For the cost difference we were able to renovate our master bath. We did the demo work in four rooms, all the drywall repair & texturing, painting, laid our new wood floors, etc., etc.. We were pleased with the work we had done but a couple of people had to send me PM's telling me what a mistake Formica is.... One said "You really shot yourself in the foot by not going with granite, people expect granite these days. Formica is used in mobile homes not nice houses like yours." Well guess what? We plan to live out our lives in this house and if we are happy with the renovations we made then we don't feel like we shot ourselves in the foot. The nerve!!! :angry: I certainly didn't ask for advice.... let alone a put down, it was very uncalled for. Of course I've had some "run ins" with that particular poster in the past so his lack of good character is not a surprise to me. There are no dumb questions but sometimes there are very dumb answers and even worse is when the person didn't ask a question and gets put down all in the guise of giving "advice". :blink: Just for the record..... After growing up in a drag racing home, learning to work on cars at a very early age, and having a career spanning 35 years in the automotive/truck parts industry I choose to change the oil in my vehicles between 3500 and 5000 miles depending upon driving conditions, time of year (outside temperature), etc. I don't consider that to be an "important life decision" it's just what I do. Oh and I do not use synthetic oils.. but I'm polite about it. Isn't it great we have choices in life?? :) |
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| OkieCat |
Posted: Sep 22 2009, 11:46 AM
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Cat - Tulsa, OK ![]() Group: CAMP HOST Posts: 687 Member No.: 26 Joined: 2-July 09 |
(Posted Image) I "admitted" nothing Kaj, nothing at all, clearly you misunderstood. I was SHARING an experience NOT asking for opinions or advice. Just like the people in the thread Don was talking about who had worked hard on their kitchen only to get negative comments on it. I felt sorry for them because they didn't intend to become a target for critique, just like I won't become one. If people ask questions they use question marks at the end of the sentence. If they want advice or critique they begin by saying "I need advice about ________" or "Please help me with _________" or "What do you think about _________" I hope this helps clear up any misunderstanding you may have. |
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| Kajtek1 |
Posted: Sep 22 2009, 02:10 PM
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Kris from CA ![]() Group: BANNED Posts: 826 Member No.: 55 Joined: 24-August 09 |
Sound like you are complaining about finding discussion on discussion forum? Larry had his opinion, while my opinion that there are exceptions stays as well. Let's wait and see how the others see it? |
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| MarionMedic |
Posted: Sep 22 2009, 06:01 PM
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Marion, MS ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 935 Member No.: 1 Joined: 6-June 09 |
Okay guys.......
I got a "reported post" on this one and came to see. What I see is some great discussion with a little "nerve tweaking" towards others. Nothing blatantly hostile. Let's keep it that way??? There's no reason to get all bent at one another on a forum. As to the Original post in this thread, I agree 2000%. Nobody needs or desreves to get a short, snippy, sarcastic, rude, or mean reply to any question asked out of sincere curiosity. Snide comments and remarks in that case would constitute TROLLING in every other forum I frequent. Let's keep it nice and civil like it has been and not stoop to the other forum's level. |
| OkieCat |
Posted: Sep 22 2009, 06:47 PM
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Cat - Tulsa, OK ![]() Group: CAMP HOST Posts: 687 Member No.: 26 Joined: 2-July 09 |
First there isn't anyone in need of correction or making illogical statements here, albeit contrary to your viewpoint Kaj. Second, I am not a guy and neither is Sharlan. LOL Please remember you have expressed your unsolicited advice in the name of discussion. :blink: Since there hasn't been anyone ask for your advice, the impact will be non existent and honestly you shouldn't expect more. |
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| The Texan |
Posted: Sep 22 2009, 09:48 PM
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On the Road...Somewhere in the US ![]() Group: Co-Administrator Posts: 1,045 Member No.: 14 Joined: 26-June 09 |
Let's play nice guys. You have done a good job of hijacking the thread and now it's time to return to the OP topic...........thanks
Bob :unsure: |
| MarionMedic |
Posted: Sep 23 2009, 04:24 PM
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Marion, MS ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 935 Member No.: 1 Joined: 6-June 09 |
EVERYTHING not related to "Newbie RV Owners" has been moved here......
http://z3.invisionfree.com/Freedom_Of_The_...p?showtopic=468 The argument can continue there. Why?? 1) General housekeeping - Off topic posts are already moved to the numerous sections where they belong. 2) The new location is not viewable to non members and I don't want "US" to look like a bunch of squabbling gradeschoolers to the public. 3) The actual argument was incoherent to the THREE people I had read it. None of them are regulars on here, none knows any of you, and none could follow the flow and make heads or tails of it. Further off topic in this here thread will just be DELETED. |
| Lightning |
Posted: Nov 1 2009, 12:44 PM
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Larry - Near Fort Leavenworth KS ![]() Group: Camper Posts: 2,198 Member No.: 31 Joined: 21-July 09 |
I totally stand behind my original posting. There is no reason in the world that I can think of that anyone should ever go into the attack mode when someone asks a question. No matter how elementary it may seem to the well experienced RV enthusiast, if the person doesn't know the answer and they take the time to ask, I feel that they deserve a polite answer. |
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| Happy5er |
Posted: Nov 2 2009, 09:41 AM
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Dee --- La Pine, Oregon ![]() Group: Camper Posts: 477 Member No.: 27 Joined: 21-July 09 |
Asking questions in some RV forums are like asking questions in junior high. Can you imagine (or remember) what is was like to ask a question and have the whole classroom make fun of you because you didn't know???????? Think of that before answering and maybe the RV forums will be much more pleasant.
BTW - I refer to RV forums because I belong to other forums for crafting and I've NEVER seen the attacks happen in those forums like I do in the RV forums. :unsure: |
| Lightning |
Posted: Nov 3 2009, 09:25 AM
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Larry - Near Fort Leavenworth KS ![]() Group: Camper Posts: 2,198 Member No.: 31 Joined: 21-July 09 |
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