Opening communication with spirits, a warning

[KILLGORE]

Over the past year or so I have been listening to audio interviews and reading articles on the growing trend in the paranormal. It seems that late night stories and campfire scares don’t cut it anymore these days. With the advent of certain technologies I am seeing a re-insurgence of the Victorian era spirit parties and evocation. Using methods from yesteryear coupled with new technology like "Franks Box", EVP, and evocation of spirits.
I want to warn those people who are reading this that it's not necessarily dangerous to do this but sometimes you will never be able to stop the communication. If you don’t mind that in your life don’t read on. If you do mind having a tag along spirit or worse, then please continue to experiment.

I am just offering a friendly warning to those who may not know what their dealing with. True, almost all of us don’t truly know what we are dealing with in the paranormal but their are a few of us who have been doing this for a number of years and have made those mistakes. I am here to lend a hand helping those who haven’t understood this. You don’t just learn from your own mistakes, but others also. That's why we come to a internet forum to read these posts. A global community of do's and don’ts.

In the past year specifically I have run into 2 pieces of technology that I must warn you about. One is the K2 meter and the other is the "franks box". While seeming harmless in themselves they are just pieces of electronics wired together to emit or measure a form of energy or in case of the box, a sound spectrum. Harmless enough yes. Where the problem comes in is people see shows on TV now and then go on the internet and try to get themselves a piece of this technology to start some experimenting themselves. No harm in doing private research but here's the key; your going to find out the hard way at some point that these things your trying to prove or research are VERY real. Contrary to your religions beliefs or your own, it’s a fact that there are entities (in the basic definition of the word) all around us. Be it a fluctuating occurrence or on a static level, they exist in our time and space.

The same with recording EVP’s and provoking (evoking) a spirit into manifesting its voice or likeness, with the K2 meter and the Franks Box, you are essentially doing the same thing.

As with a Ouija board, while in itself is a harmless piece of cardboard, what you’re providing is ‘a convenient tool for communication’ to these spirits. You have a board arranged with letters and numbers and an indicator which the entity if dedicated enough can manipulate into communicating through the various dimensions into our material world. This also applies to EVP recordings, spirit photography and video, the K2 meter and the Franks box which generated a noise spectrum to which a spirit can manipulate the frequencies presented to them and form either a voice or sounds to communicate with us. With a K2, it’s become popular after seeing Chris Flemming on GH to use it’s pulse feature to provide a yes/no answer. Does it work? Yes, for the most part if your going to come in contact with a spirit, these will definetly aid the first few steps in communication.

Is it dangerous? Sure! It’s like your kids talking to unidentifiable strangers in an internet chat room. But you on the other hand are inviting those strangers into your life and there is no monitor separating you there. Those spirits are right next to you. You asking them to communicate or show themselves. You are the children here. Don’t be so bold as to think you have the upper hand. You don’t and that’s a fact. These things are dead and not so gone, but still retain as much knowledge as you did in life, plus they have many other advantages you and I don’t. I don’t need to explain what they are, we all have been there before…

My warning to everyone here is don’t bite off more you can chew. This is not a game. This is not the real world either. This is playing with a world that supersedes all of our knowledge combined. It’s what we learn here to take on into wherever we go next. Those who are there now are far superior in knowledge and experience for obvious reasons than us who are living will ever know. Don’t fool around with the unknown thinking you can tame it because you have this or that advantage. Whatever is out there has tools that trump yours automatically.

Here’s a case in point: http://www.coasttocoastam.com/gen/page2569.html?theme=light
Don’t play with fire people, your liable to get burnt and scar yourself for a very long time. I caution all of you, know what you’re planning and take this warning into consideration.

[DF Mod LadyStarla]

Sound warning. This is something I have been concerned about. With all the paranormal tv shows about, it makes it "cool" to ghost hunt. While it is really great that we are being listened to, this trend does have grave possibilities of danger. Also even though we are accepted, it open up the other chance that enough of bad things will happen we will again be forced to stay low key. the popularity opens the door to more abuse. This happens in the financial as well as spiritual realms.

I would encourage anyone that is not sure of an investigation to research the area. Any investigation can be the one you find that is trouble. You don't always know until the problem faces you. Always be careful, always work in teams, always have some link to a demonologist. You just never know.

I have held my breath many times watching the different shows. They have either been very lucky, or they have someone in the wings to watch over them.

[Lady_Zandraa]

Tools are a great thing but only in the hands of someone who has a clue on how to use them. "Frank's box" and a K2 meter are tools. The thing everyone should think about before using ANY tool is getting the proper personal SAFETY equipment together and using it while using your tools. I seriously doubt a welder would do the welding thing without first putting on the gloves and helmet and whatever else goes along with welding. We should do likewise before using any tools. It doesn't matter what your belief system is there are protections that should be implimented before you start your investigation. Prayer. Protective charms. Whatever it is that you use.

You know the whole paranormal tv explosion bothers me. On one hand I am really glad that paranormal things are being shown in a non-frightening manner but on the other hand there are things there that people should be cautious about. Many times they are trying to disprove the activity. Ok. Cool. It kind of sends the message that we can rationalize all activity. That works I guess for somebody's ultimate purpose. Another thing I see it doing is desensitizing people to it. Again I can see this working for somebody's ultimate purpose.

But I can't see it being very good for those trying to "fight the good fight".

I think that it is imperative for people to understand that there is more to this world than just us. They need to understand that there is a battle between Good and Evil that is being waged daily. I don't want them to be afraid of every shadow but I don't want them to get dismissive about it either. So many people like to think that battles don't affect them. This one affects all of us. We all need to be on our guard about the evils in the world.

I am getting preachy. Sorry. I will hush now.

P.S.

Don't forget your PPE (personal protection equipment)

[DF Mod Christine]

Nah not preachy sound advice.

My cousin died in 1987 he was 24.

this is what happened and forgive me if any of you have read thisbut I post it again for anyone thinking nothing can happen.
Ouija boarda are sold as games.
HA
But he and my brother woh lived with him and my Uncle for several years,,they were 'exploring' the attic I think they were going to remodel or something.
My bro and my cousin found a board it was really old and of course not knowing because these things are advertised as a game as some things are advertised as 'science"..they began farting around with it.
my brother whi seriouslt is in mensa (he took most of it away from me) was not so quick to beelive in that sort of thing,.,he always tries to figure things out.
It was giving them some scary and accurate messages...my brother refused to have anything more to do with it,,my cousin got very drawn in.mocking it baiting it..you know scoffing it..it or should I say whatever was using it,,told him he would die that year in wtr..it spelled it out something like that.,,not only evil but a bad speller.

He drowned in a quarry in 6 feet of water (he was 6. 1') and no one ever knew how.,,,this was in June of 87.

I can only ever 'sense that he is in a dark place,,I prayed for him a million prayers a million candles everything,,,I don't know what the state is but its not happy one..I never quite knew why I get that feeling about him....nice kid extremly bright future...never got in any trouble wentot Church Bible study.....

Someone should take those boards out of toy stores and sell them only as adult toys/games with warnings.

I will never know if he drowned as a coincedence but lean towards it having some hand in it.
And it scared me big time.

Don't play because it can turn around and bite you.,,be in your life for the duration effect your kids,,each time i go somehwere that has activity i think long and hard about what could happen what could possibly affect my kids...and I beg god to guide me inspite of my dwindling faith.
Now I am going to limit where we go this summer because this is very sensible....scary and real.
now I am the one preching,..lol

[Robert B.]

Amen Christine......amen.

[SCLandes]

Those pictures make me angry.

Listen, I sound like the Hulk.

-scl

[Lady_Zandraa]

Christine that story was chilling. People really have no clue. I had some friends years ago that fooled around with one and well the results were not as immediately tragic as the one you relate but it did change some things that still affect them today. I think we all have a story concerning a "spirit" board. They are bad "juju" as my youngest would say.

I guess the moral of the story is if you don't know how to use it, don't. That is the way I look at it.

[DF Mod Christine]

Yes...I have heard a lot of independant stories about people having HUGE problems after using them...so its not just a radical few who don't condone the use of them.

[JeannetteO.]

If anyone wants to know about the Minibox devices or the TTTD formerly 'Franks' Box' I spent a year with Chris Moon interacting with and researching them...they are NOT benign!

[DF Mod Christine]

Jeanette do you think they work?
Do you think people can have any control over what/who comes through or is it a random connection to radio waves or just stray signals?

I am a bit curious but on the other hand I would firmly not want to hear who or what would come through.

How it comes through is interesting....

[JeannetteO.]

I KNOW they work Christine I wrote a blog about it over on my space that goes into detail

[DF Mod Christine]

Thanks I will defnitely read that.

[Curious]

I can definately attest to the danger of quija boards. My wife used one when she was a teenager and as a result we had some very unpleasant diabolical experiences in our home years later.

Interestingly enough one night shortly after her grandfather passed away she was visited in a dream by an entity posing as her grandfather who told her that she was currently pregnant and that the child was a boy. The entity also told her that she would go on to have another boy and a girl.

As I type this post I am the father of two boys, and my wife is pregnant with another child.

[DF Mod Raven]

The problem with ouji boards is not the board itself it’s any channeling device. More often than not when we have gone to a demonic case, someone in the house used a channeling device at one time.

When you use a channeling devise your opening up to spirits. Lets say you were trying to contact your dead uncle Joe (figuratively). Uncle Joe starts talking to you and answering your questions. While this is happening a Demon slips into the picture while the channel is open. Another situation is that how do you really know uncle Joe is really uncle Joe? A demon will lie, trick and try to gain your trust before revealing its true nature, and this demon will know the right answers to the questions you are asking. Anyone who uses or has used them needs to not anymore. It is dangerous no matter how much prayer or preparation or if you think you know how to use it. Because it is not a matter of how you use it. It is that act of using it at all. I have collected several boards with NEAR and disposed of them. And after we conducted the blessings and took away the boards, the problems they had, stopped.


Our advice from NEAR is not to use them. If you feel obligated to try to talk to a relative just talk. You don’t need a channeling device because your loved ones are always watching over you.

[JeannetteO.]

Very wise advice indeed.