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| Aneaglesangel |
Posted: Dec 1 2010, 01:08 PM
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I'm not sure which link to use here for this forum, so I'm putting all of them, and use the one that works, LOL! You should be able to get an on-site player that will play the EVP for you, you shouldn't have to download it, unless you want to.
This house is located in Dartmouth, Ma, and I believe has "levels" of hauntings going on. I also believe there is either a portal situation going on here, some natural factor that creates an opening that helps spirit enter our realm, or a "spirit battery" which is something my team is working on lately, where contaminants, and not natural situations creates an atmosphere which is rich in energy that spirits may be using to manifest activity. We're looking at cadmium, mercury, and especially PCB's which are rampant in my area because of the former mill industry that was in this area and fouled our waters. (The ponds around here all have mercury poisoning, so if you catch a nice trophy bass, you don't want to eat it, unless of course you want to glow in the dark!) The owner and I were interviewing, she's a good friend that I've known since childhood, as her sister was my best friend since second grade. This house is not an old construction. It shouldn't have a haunt to the extent that the audio suggests. I've recovered so many EVP's in this home over the years that I have had to look twice at it. So much as gone on on the land it sits on, there's a high probability of it being haunted. First it was Wampanaog land that was later purchases for tools and wampum as the purchase that was Dartmouth back in the 1600's. In 1675, during King Philip's War (Sachem Metacomet) all the houses in Dartmouth were burnt to the ground by the Wampanoag tribe. If you but take a walk in the woods, the gaping holes of the stone foundations that were once those very houses, and look, another layer to the history. The Revolutionary War also played its part in the history of this land. Then farmers, millers, reverands and townspeople. Add another "layer" to this haunt!! I have modern time spirits, ancient Wampanoag spirits also reside here, you might even record the long ago chant of cults as they worshipped in the woods off Copicut Rd, which is just a short jaunt up the road, too. So, all in all, this house has quite a confounding haunt that we've been working on since 2005. Though the activity is usually seen through mostly audio, and the occasional occurence that the owners report, there has been physical manifestation also. They have a picture that is hard to explain, but let's just say, it's odd. One day on investigation there, I saw animal crackers picked up off the floor about an inch and drop back down. This EVP was taken in 2005, and I think because I didn't have the audio equipment I have now, I missed it the first time around. But it is very significant. The word is Wampanoag, "attuckquock" (ah-tewk-qua) and means "male deer." It is most significant because I swear I recognize his voice. You see I've heard it before in EVP calling out a name, "Tobias" to be exact. The name Tobias can't be found listed in the burial book of Dartmouth I have, only the first initial T. which could be any old T name. (I'm trying to recover the "Tobias" EVP to try to compare the voice, but it's on a hard drive out of a comp that died.) The other reason it's significant is because the house is filled with trophy bucks that the husband owner of the home has shot while hunting. I had to look around to research this word and did find it online, I was surprised when I realized that it was gender specific. For there are even a pair of stags with their horns locked together as if in battle! During the time that this EVP was taken, myself and the wife owner of the home were present. We were sitting away from the recorder, discussing the activity she had experienced. You can hear us talking softly in the background, listen toward the middle for the male voice, it is louder than ours. Hope you enjoy! http://www.4shared.com/audio/aAe57aGi/7KNKAttuckquock.html <a href="http://www.4shared.com/audio/aAe57aGi/7KNKAttuckquock.html" target=_blank>7KNKAttuckquock.wav</a> 7KNKAttuckquock.wav The "loop" version: http://www.4shared.com/audio/3UAgGwZH/7KNK...kquockLoop.html <a href="http://www.4shared.com/audio/3UAgGwZH/7KNKAttuckquockLoop.html" target=_blank>7KNKAttuckquockLoop.wav</a> 7KNKAttuckquockLoop.wav -------------------- Founder/Whaling City Ghosts
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Something I've heard from tall tales as a child was that in dartmouth, there were underground streams, some of wich were coming out of small caves, and that during the mining industry much of these outlets were filled in.
There could be a spring beneath the property. Also seismic must be looked into....I believe there are many microfaults. Think of the world as a wind shield, your driving along and a rock hits the windshield it spiders lots of big cracks, if you look under the microscope you will see small hair line cracks, invisible to the naked eye. In new york you have some fault lines, got some in canada, I believe small micro faults, microscopic faults branch out from these areas. So these could also be a reason. It could be what's completing the circuit for the spirit battery. Batteries themselves don't hold power, power is based off of something else. The power source for them flash lights you shake them English physicist Michael Faraday discovered that passing a magnet near a wire coil could induce an electric current in the wire. This "Faraday Principle" forms the foundation for all of today's electric motors, generators, & transformers. * Lead-acid battery - Lead-acid chemistry is used in automobiles, the electrodes are made of lead and lead-oxide with a strong acidic electrolyte (rechargeable). * Nickel-cadmium battery - The electrodes are nickel-hydroxide and cadmium, with potassium-hydroxide as the electrolyte (rechargeable). * Nickel-metal hydride battery - This battery is rapidly replacing nickel-cadmium because it does not suffer from the memory effect that nickel-cadmiums do (rechargeable). * Lithium-ion battery - With a very good power-to-weight ratio, this is often found in high-end laptop computers and cell phones (rechargeable). * Zinc-air battery - This battery is lightweight and rechargeable. * Zinc-mercury oxide battery - This is often used in hearing-aids. So there must be other factors. I question soil as well, you said cadmium and mercury were common, maybe there is a high presence of cadmium and mercury within the environment wich is another type of battery. If I recall the overall reaction is Zn+HgO --> ZnO + Hg. They contain either pure mercuric oxide or a mix of mercuric oxide with manganese dioxide, since mercuric oxide is non conductive, there is some graphite, batteries like these also use zinc, or zinc oxide. Sodium hydroxide or potassium hydroxide would be the electrolyte. The benefit is nearly constant voltage at low currents, or if there is potassium hydroxide present, constant current and high voltage. The type with cadmium are generally low density energy but it can function at higher temprature. So there are things to test for that could potentially add to spirit batteries. I have a similar theory that states, the presence of soil rich in electrolytic, acidic, compounds found in batteries can power land hauntings, expecially if there is some way these chemicals are being naturally deposited, or naturally created. Something I was asked today, was what is a haunting like. I liked it to investigating with a rechargeable flash light. You go into a place, it's dark, you flip a switch, that battery starts flowing, it flows to the light bulb, the light comes on, and then flows back to the battery...after awhile the battery dies. The battery is something at the sight of the haunting that spirits feed off of, the switch is both a human factor and a spirit and historical factor, what's that spirit wanna do, what caused the spirit to come to the area, was it a war, a death, something brought that spirit there, and if a human isn't there to witness activity, then there is no haunting, without witnesses it don't happen, and the light bulb is the illumination you get from investigating, it's theories, ideas, and evidence, but eventually that spirit will run out of energy and it will shut off, and as such it will not come back on unless it's got the power to do so. Very interesting place...and even more intersting case, if you need my brain I am here for ya. -------------------- Beware spirits....you never know where I'll pop up next.... You run, I chase, you chase, I stand my ground, you cuss I cuss more, you slap me, I laugh at you. Throw things at me, throw me through the room, you don't scare me and I will continue to hunt you. Proud member of SIRS www.sirsparanormal.com
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| DF Admin KJ |
Posted: Dec 2 2010, 09:06 AM
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Yes, and this could also coincide with the theory of "lay lines" within the area! There is of course a high mineral content (as well as high levels of cadmium and mercury pollution, among other things) within the Blackstone River, which could very well serve and an energy source for paranormal activity both at the Slater Mill site and Precious Blood Cemetery.
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| Aneaglesangel |
Posted: Dec 2 2010, 12:21 PM
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Awesome information Gren! The funny thing that I didn't know about PCB's was that given a small charge, they will emit their own energy. Both positive and negative at the same time. I found this extremely interesting, for two houses that have incredible activity and multiple spirits have the same contaminants present. I'm going to have to look into the underground properties of the area. I'm hoping I can get some people to help, possibly at UMass, for I'd also like to test the soil and water at these two properties to compare what there is present! Thanks guys! Hugs!
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ty and yeah pcbs can do it. -------------------- Beware spirits....you never know where I'll pop up next.... You run, I chase, you chase, I stand my ground, you cuss I cuss more, you slap me, I laugh at you. Throw things at me, throw me through the room, you don't scare me and I will continue to hunt you. Proud member of SIRS www.sirsparanormal.com
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| Aneaglesangel |
Posted: Dec 4 2010, 12:45 PM
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Yeah, it's sort of funny too. A long time ago, I thought PCB's were some sort of plastic. Now I know that they are a substance that was used to insulate generators and such. When I started getting the idea that maybe contaminants could help power a haunt, I looked into it more closely. I also had my Head of Scientific Research look into it, for she is an analytical chemist by day. The information she sent me had my head spinning! I can see a high potential for them powering up a haunt, or even attracting ghosts from miles around to be able to access the energy! I also have found that mercury will change forms when put into contact with other substances, so I'm not even sure what the potentials for them causing an energy source yet. But cadmium, being used in batteries, I could also see having a high possibility of helping the ghosts acquire energy! This stuff is just so fascinating!
I'm still working on getting soil and water testing done at these sites, so if anyone knows anyone who might be able to help in that aspect, please let me know! Hugs all! -------------------- Founder/Whaling City Ghosts
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Welcome to my world...head spinning, a quote from a movie comes to mind... "We have an expression in prize fighting: "Everyone has a plan until they've been hit." Well my friend, you've just been hit. The getting up is up to you. " Ghost and the darkness (1996) Yup they are a big source of energy in my mind. I've been looking for places to send soil samples my self. I wanted to take one at my local hot spot. I actually have a few different soil samples...Down side is getting the fee to get them all tested. Something else I'm thinking, minerals, like micro particals of granite, and quarts...they could absorb and emit energy. New england soil is incredibly rocky. Lots of sand too...so their could be limestone sand mixed in...problem is getting deep enough for a core sample to see how it changes, and what each layer consists of...I'd say 5 feet be more then enough...just need to dodge the rocks in the soil. -------------------- Beware spirits....you never know where I'll pop up next.... You run, I chase, you chase, I stand my ground, you cuss I cuss more, you slap me, I laugh at you. Throw things at me, throw me through the room, you don't scare me and I will continue to hunt you. Proud member of SIRS www.sirsparanormal.com
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| Aneaglesangel |
Posted: Dec 8 2010, 11:11 AM
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Oh it sure is rocky! Ever try digging a hole for a fence post out here? LOL! If I find someone to do this water and soil testing for me, I'll let you know! I'm trying to find someone (such as UMass Dartmouth, etc) to do this for free, like a project. We'll see how it all works out and if I can get this done for free, I'll let you know! I think there are a lot of factors that help to boost our haunts here. We have some of the best haunts in the world, and everyone wants to come here and experience them! I'm very happy to live here in haunt city!
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Another thing I was wondering about, what's the telluric current in the area like? Telluric currents are an electric current which moves underground or through the sea. They are the result from both natural causes and human activity, and the discrete currents interact in a complex pattern. The currents are extremely low frequency and travel over large areas at or near the surface of Earth. They are primarily induced by changes in the outer part of the Earth's magnetic field, which are usually caused by interactions between the solar wind and the magnetosphere or solar radiation effects on the ionosphere. Telluric current activity is related to thunderstorms, and recent research indicates that by causing accumulation of electrical charge on the Earth's surface, they play a vital role in turning a rain shower into a thunder storm. During the day interestingly they move towards the equator, and at night, retreat poleward. Telluric currents can be harnessed to produce a useful low voltage current by means of earth batteries. Such devices were used for telegraph systems in the United States as far back as 1859, we used them in my electronics class to power the lights in the class room. I believe that a petrovoltaic sensor or measuring device be needed to test it, and that's the realm of scientists. -------------------- Beware spirits....you never know where I'll pop up next.... You run, I chase, you chase, I stand my ground, you cuss I cuss more, you slap me, I laugh at you. Throw things at me, throw me through the room, you don't scare me and I will continue to hunt you. Proud member of SIRS www.sirsparanormal.com
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| Aneaglesangel |
Posted: Dec 9 2010, 01:32 PM
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Hmm, I don't know. I'm going to have to keep seeing if I can get a scientific consult for us. I'm hoping maybe to get UMass students, but so far, am awaiting getting in contact with one of my teachers who I think would be able to point me in the right direction. I'll take note of this, and I also have a question. Could the telluric currents you speak of, if they were active enough, could they put the PCB's or other substances into a "super-charged" state??
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I do believe they could, a transformer uses pcbs, so do some capacitors. Capacitors store electrical energy. With Transformers they can change voltage by either lowering or raising the voltage. The only real way is to buy some pcb take and pour some into 3 seperate containers, measure one container this will be the control, you don't pass any charge through this container. Measure it's current using probes from a DMM (Digital Multi Meter radioshack), pass a low current through another container, something small, a battery, measure using the same DMM while your zapping the pcbs in this other container, and then finally test a 3rd container that you had zapped with a battery. In theory your control will have a current of for example 1 ampere hour (ah), You zap it with a battery this case a 12 volt, 7.2 ah lead acid from a verizon box on the outside of your house. You should get a reading of 8.2 ah. You take and test a 3rd container that you zapped and you get a reading on the Dmm of 1.2-1.5 or higher, I would say the atoms and molecules are in a state of excitement due to electrical charge and there for current could cause the pcbs to react in a hyper state. Production was banned though in 1976. There was another thing that passed in 2001 outlawing them. If you were able to find them to test it, I'd suspect you'd need a hazmat licence to transport it, at least a level 2, compelete with a hazmat compliant container and probably a very good reason like education to get it. You can still get some of the chemicals, like therminol but these are altered from the original that contaminated the area. You'd also need neoprene gloves as laytex and pvc is not a protective barrier when your working with PCBS. If you can find a soil sample that is heavily laden with pcbs, you can zap it and get the results....naturally you wanna do it from a safe distance. So probably be best for a scientist to test, as it is flagged as a Section 6 risk management rule under TSCA. Zapping it with electricity can also be hazardous, as it is combustible when exposed to heat or flame, don't know it's ignition point though. Since it's banned I'd suspect you'd most likely have to use Polychlorobiphenyls, 5503 as an alternative, if you can't find the real stuff. That being said, probably safest for a chemist with a well stocked lab then your garage... -------------------- Beware spirits....you never know where I'll pop up next.... You run, I chase, you chase, I stand my ground, you cuss I cuss more, you slap me, I laugh at you. Throw things at me, throw me through the room, you don't scare me and I will continue to hunt you. Proud member of SIRS www.sirsparanormal.com
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| Aneaglesangel |
Posted: Dec 10 2010, 11:03 AM
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Keep your fingers crossed on that! I'll see who I can find and maybe some of these tests can get done! Thanks for the information! Hugs!
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yw, just hope their professionals, cause they are suspected carcinogenics.
-------------------- Beware spirits....you never know where I'll pop up next.... You run, I chase, you chase, I stand my ground, you cuss I cuss more, you slap me, I laugh at you. Throw things at me, throw me through the room, you don't scare me and I will continue to hunt you. Proud member of SIRS www.sirsparanormal.com
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| Aneaglesangel |
Posted: Dec 12 2010, 11:22 AM
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Yes, it does make me wonder for our health around here. When my oldest son was a baby, some people came around the neighborhood. They said they were running a test on the health of people, that there was a high rate of cancer, heart diseaseand stroke in our area. I let them do a bunch of tests on me, for I was concerned when they told me what they were doing. My father died of cancer, and I wonder, did the pollution around here, or in his place of work have anything to do with that. The people running the test weren't sure what the causes were, but they did say it could be anything, right down to the local diet. The more I learn, the more worried I am, for myself, all the residents in this area, and the generations to come. If the contaminants are bad enough to affect our health, what can we do about it? We've had super fund sites where they clean as much of the pollution as they can. But still, much of it escapes in the waters and no matter how hard you try, you can't clean it all up. There will always be trace amounts of it in the soil, and probably spots where it has settled that we don't even know about and has high levels of these chemicals.
So, I would hope that whoever I find to do these tests will be safe about them. For I think there's more to this picture than just a bunch of ghosts. I think this stuff has the potential to make a bunch of ghosts out of the living that reside in this area. Maybe that's why there's so many ghosts in the first place, they're all ticked off that they've been poisoned to death by the very land they lived on! -------------------- Founder/Whaling City Ghosts
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It won't always be around, it degrades very very slowly. Something I wonder if it could be happening naturally, is natural fuel cells. A nafion17 powered cell. Nafion17 is a transparent polymer, a type of PEM (proton exchange membrane). Nafion 117 contains fluorine, carbon, oxygen, sulfur, and hydrogen arranged in repeating polymer molecules. The hydrogen atom on the SO3 part of the molecule can detach from one SO3 site. The free H+proton can hop from SO3 site to SO3 site through the material, to emerge on the other side of the membrane. This is the reason it is called a proton exchange membrane. It can be thought of as solid sulfuric acid, an electrolyte. It's about 100 bucks if you were to buy nafion17 in 1 by 1 foot incriments. Could a naturally occuring PEM be within the enviornment, with solar photovoltaics and water electrolyzing compounds create hydrogen and oxygen be creating a natural gas powered battery. They have been made in labs, and some claims for homebrew versions. Things I'd also look for in the soil Gallium arsenic silicon germanium nitrides They are all heavily used in the electronics field. -------------------- Beware spirits....you never know where I'll pop up next.... You run, I chase, you chase, I stand my ground, you cuss I cuss more, you slap me, I laugh at you. Throw things at me, throw me through the room, you don't scare me and I will continue to hunt you. Proud member of SIRS www.sirsparanormal.com
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